Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:07, Alan DuBoff wrote: > On Monday 19 March 2007 07:37 pm, Stefan Teleman wrote: > > http://www.php-security.org/ > > This is scary...I think I'll go get a cold shower...;-) > > I have to wonder, much of the online forum software is written in > PHP, and as such seems to

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ian Murdock wrote On 03/20/07 00:53,: Hi all, It's being announced today that I'm joining Sun as chief operating platforms officer, which basically means I'll be in charge of Sun's operating system strategy, spanning Solaris and Linux. I just posted the announcement on my blog (http://ianmurdoc

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 19 March 2007 07:37 pm, Stefan Teleman wrote: > http://www.php-security.org/ This is scary...I think I'll go get a cold shower...;-) I have to wonder, much of the online forum software is written in PHP, and as such seems to be vulnerable. How do people deal with sites that are based o

[osol-discuss] A request for your input.

2007-03-19 Thread lmth
Hello My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University Australia. I am currently researching the boundary between work and leisure activities directly related to the open source community and open source program development. As part of this I am running a survey at the follo

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Ché Kristo
Hi Ian, It is great that Sun could make you part of the team, you have a wealth of experience and credibility within the open source community that can do nothing but benefit not only Sun but the OpenSolaris Community as well. I look forward to reading your thoughts and opinions within these fo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Is the cplus_demangle call mt-safe or async-signal-safe

2007-03-19 Thread Bart Smaalders
Steve Clamage wrote: The cplus_demangle call is mt-safe, guarded by a mutex at the outer level. There is no external state, so I don't see how asynchronous signals could cause a problem. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-dis

[osol-discuss] Re: Is the cplus_demangle call mt-safe or async-signal-safe

2007-03-19 Thread Steve Clamage
The cplus_demangle call is mt-safe, guarded by a mutex at the outer level. There is no external state, so I don't see how asynchronous signals could cause a problem. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list openso

[osol-discuss] Q & A's harvested from my outbox

2007-03-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
This is not an FAQ -- official, unofficial, authorized, unauthorized, or any such. It's a just some questions and answers about OpenSolaris project management that I've harvested from my outbox and cleaned up a bit. Comments welcome. [This message is cross-posted to opensolaris-discuss and websit

[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Carlos Silva
Yes I think I tried everything available, and read mountains of information. And as you mentioned with the proper knowledge base, which is not me, I could not get a good install. The one time I actually got the UI up however it was stunning for UI. Even the CDE was very nice and I could see that

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Monday 19 March 2007 13:52, Octave Orgeron wrote: > Hi, > > I think this is a great idea and will help developers and shops > that depend on these tools. Of course the key issue I see is > supportability. A lot of developers like to see the latest and > greatest versions of these tools. However,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Fire!! core dumped!

2007-03-19 Thread Shawn Walker
On 19/03/07, eric wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is on solaris 5.8. Is there any other information useful for this?? You are more likely to find help on the SUN bigadmin forums here: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/home/index.html -- "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd W

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 19 March 2007 05:13 pm, David Lloyd wrote: > Joe, > > >> Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P > > > > Isn't that Nexenta? Had to say it. > > I don't want the Ubuntu Userland on an OpenSolaris code base. I'd prefer > a distribution as close to Sun's release of Sun Solaris (

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Fire!! core dumped!

2007-03-19 Thread Ian Collins
eric wang wrote: >It is on solaris 5.8. > > > Then you have come to the wrong place, this is an Open Solaris list. Either way, the bug appears to be in application code (cmgCall::sendEventIn passing a null pointer). Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 19 March 2007 06:17 pm, Carlos Silva wrote: > I was very amiss as to the history of Solaris. So thank you for that. That > explains the why the prominence of the newer hardware. And of course makes > sense. Ans as for the advanced features that's why I wanted to try and > hopefully switch

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Lloyd wrote: > Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P Blastwave.org is thataway -> -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www

[osol-discuss] Re: Fire!! core dumped!

2007-03-19 Thread eric wang
It is on solaris 5.8. Is there any other information useful for this?? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Carlos Silva
I was very amiss as to the history of Solaris. So thank you for that. That explains the why the prominence of the newer hardware. And of course makes sense. Ans as for the advanced features that's why I wanted to try and hopefully switch to Solaris. I had read much about the system and found it

[osol-discuss] Single Systema Image with OpenSolaris

2007-03-19 Thread Gustavo Enrique Jimenez
Hi all It is possible to build a Single System Image with OpenSolaris ? In that case, it is possible to write a program using threads that migrates every threads to another nodes ? I am a linux programmer, and Linux does't have "green threads". So, threads doesn't migrates to the nodes. You hav

[osol-discuss] ksh93-integration 2007-03-18 test binaries available for download

2007-03-19 Thread Roland Mainz
Hi! A new set of tarballs containing an OS/Net version of ksh93 [1] (based on ksh93s_final_20070111 [2]) is now available from http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/ksh93-integration/downloads/2007-03-18/ These tarballs are intended to be installed over an existing OpenSolaris i386 or SPAR

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread David Lloyd
Joe, Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P Isn't that Nexenta? Had to say it. I don't want the Ubuntu Userland on an OpenSolaris code base. I'd prefer a distribution as close to Sun's release of Sun Solaris (tm) that I can get but without Sun Solaris', errrm, wonderful? pac

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Joe Little
On 3/19/07, David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jason, > <3rd grade chanting>Packing's gonna get fixed...packaging's gonna get > fixed...! Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P Isn't that Nexenta? Had to say it. DSL ___ opensol

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread David Lloyd
Jason, <3rd grade chanting>Packing's gonna get fixed...packaging's gonna get fixed...! Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P DSL ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 19 March 2007 01:37 pm, James Carlson wrote: > george r smith writes: > > I am more concerned about regular solaris - will it suffer because of an > > emphasis on linux/open-solaris > > I don't think the divide between regular Solaris and OpenSolaris that > you're suggesting in fact exist

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Ghee Teo
UNIX admin wrote: You are overstating it a bit really. It will be true for the users, ut for developers imagine writing your code in a tiny little display! I'm not sure what you mean by "tiny little display". The smallest thin client display is 17", and I'm pretty sure you can stick as

Re: [osol-discuss] Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Sunday 18 March 2007 06:46 pm, Carlos Silva wrote: > Probably if I were an IT or Sys Admin or a coder it may have been a > different story. Altough I am not any of these I have been using Linux for > over ten years the last six with it as my primary OS, and Solaris right now > reminds me of Linu

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Ian Collins
Carlos Silva wrote: Can you please retain some context? It is very difficult to work out to whom your replies are addressed. >In conclusion the best summary is both need to be addressed, that's from my >point of view which means very little. >I am just a user and can only answer for myself. But

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> Hey there, > > We run a few hundred millions rows of data in > multiple MySQL clusters > and have not had the same issue...having done it many > times a week. > Sounds like operator error. Hmmm, no such error in PosgreSQL... or in Oracle. Strange, don't you think? I wouldn't call that a coinci

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Ian Collins
Ghee Teo wrote: > UNIX admin wrote: > >> >> And if we take into consideration that the desktop is dying a slow >> yet sure death, the long term usability of Solaris as being installed >> on a PC-bucket "fat client" as a desktop OS loses significance. >> > >You are overstating it a bit reall

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 19 March 2007 08:53 am, Ian Murdock wrote: > It's being announced today that I'm joining Sun as chief operating > platforms officer, which basically means I'll be in charge of Sun's > operating system strategy, spanning Solaris and Linux. Good to see you come on board. Will be looking f

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread MC
Oh boy, we are in for some fun times. This Ian guy is uniquely on the ball from what I just read on his blog. I think he could either do great things with Solaris, or try to do great things and be kicked off the boat :) And now for some one-way discussion and/or hazing. "Solaris is great techn

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread John Plocher
One of our (OpenSolaris /and/ Sun) big problems is getting a handle on how these two worlds can/should/must evolve and interoperate with each other. Having Ian on board with his strong Linux background can't help but bring much needed clarity and focus to this chaotic area. I'm certain that ther

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hey there, We run a few hundred millions rows of data in multiple MySQL clusters and have not had the same issue...having done it many times a week. Sounds like operator error. -J On 3/19/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, the MySQL is a definite requirement. Calling > MySQL a s

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread James Carlson
george r smith writes: > I am more concerned about regular solaris - will it suffer because of an > emphasis on linux/open-solaris I don't think the divide between regular Solaris and OpenSolaris that you're suggesting in fact exists. As far as regular Solaris is concerned, the OpenSolaris source

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread george r smith
I am more concerned about regular solaris - will it suffer because of an emphasis on linux/open-solaris george r smith > Congratulations. > So, let me be very direct (as always): what do you have in mind for > (Open)Solaris? ___ opensolaris-discuss mail

[osol-discuss] Re: on-src-DATE.tar.bz2

2007-03-19 Thread Oleksandr Karpenko
Thank you a lot. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> First things first: I'm a long time Linux user, > developer, and advocate. > I founded Debian in 1993, co-founded a Linux > distribution company called > Progeny in 1999, and most recently served as CTO of > the new Linux > Foundation, where I was (and still am) chair of the > LSB, the Linux > pl

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> All fine and well, but I suspect a few million web > site operators and > other IT operations staff would disagree with you. > I'm a fan of Postgres > myself, but any proposed "web stack" that leaves out > MySQL is kind of > missing the point by not serving the users who would, > you know, act

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Dale Ghent
On Mar 19, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Ian Murdock wrote: Hi all, It's being announced today that I'm joining Sun as chief operating platforms officer, which basically means I'll be in charge of Sun's operating system strategy, spanning Solaris and Linux. I just posted the announcement on my blog (htt

[osol-discuss] Re: How to build a NAS box

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> It pains me to read that ux-admin. It pains me > because you don't realize how wrong you are and might > continue to be :) I might be. "Historia est magistra vitae" or, "history is the teacher of life". And if one doesn't learn from history, one is doomed to repeat it, poorly. So, I guess we

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread John Mark Walker
UNIX admin wrote: Any product that is incapable of doing a cold DB dump and reimport back into another instance of the product (same revision) is shoddy, and to make matters worse, this happened while following the MySQL AB's documentation. Anything like that does not deserve to be called prod

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> Also, the MySQL is a definite requirement. Calling > MySQL a shoddy > product is pretty nasty and wrong-headed comment. Take that however you please, but I stand behind what I wrote. Any product that is incapable of doing a cold DB dump and reimport back into another instance of the product (s

[osol-discuss] Re: How to build a NAS box

2007-03-19 Thread MC
It pains me to read that ux-admin. It pains me because you don't realize how wrong you are and might continue to be :) Expecting Unix thin clients to take over the home PC market in 10 years is ridiculous. Expecting normal human consumers to learn "informatics" in order to use normal con

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread John Mark Walker
Hi, I would like to point out that manageability should be part of any web stack discussion - ask any ops guys who have had to actually deploy this stuff. Managing it usually requires a great deal of customization as current software does a poor job of dealing with it - except for ours, of co

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi, I think this is a great idea and will help developers and shops that depend on these tools. Of course the key issue I see is supportability. A lot of developers like to see the latest and greatest versions of these tools. However, that must be tempered with the requirement of stability and sec

[osol-discuss] Is the cplus_demangle call mt-safe or async-signal-safe

2007-03-19 Thread David Hinz
Is the cplus_demangle call multi-thread safe or async-signal safe? The man pages don't indicate that it is. David. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Ldap authentication problem

2007-03-19 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Moises, Are you using the PAM LDAP that came with Solaris? If so, are you trying to do authentication by using an anonymous search, followed by a self-credentialed bind? -J On 3/16/07, Moises Castellanos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I have a problem using ldap authentication with openso

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
+1 from Me. Would be nice to see a Python-based framework included (Django perhaps). Also, the MySQL is a definite requirement. Calling MySQL a shoddy product is pretty nasty and wrong-headed comment. I've got my own gripes about Postgres, but lets just say I'd like to see both included, and folk

[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Carlos Silva
Thanks will try the livecd maybe of some help. "You'd rather it *didn't* run on new hardware, or that people should spend time supporting hardware that's about to be EOLed?" Your latter statement is what I was suggesting. Why? The hardware that's going to be EOL is EOL at the manufacturer, becaus

[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> After a week and a half of trying every available > form of openSolaris the available Solaris 10 I have > to give up. > I have a AsusTek AMD K7 with nForce on board chipset > w/512 ram and over 600 Gb of hard disk over 3 drives. > I even installed a realtek nic to try and get > internet connectio

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I wonder whether their getting Flash current on Solaris (both platforms) is a hopeful sign, or if the Flash and Acrobat Reader folks are marching to different drummers. Sun's deal for Flash was with Macromedia, before the Adobe merger, so I don't think it can be read

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I just wanted > to say hello, and to make sure you heard the news > directly from me. > > Later, > > -ian > -- > Ian Murdock > http://ianmurdock.com/ Wow, I remember you. You were debIAN when Debian was cool. Mahalo. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 3/19/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, It's being announced today that I'm joining Sun as chief operating platforms officer, which basically means I'll be in charge of Sun's operating system strategy, spanning Solaris and Linux. I just posted the announcement on my blog (http

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Ian, That's terrific! <3rd grade chanting>Packing's gonna get fixed...packaging's gonna get fixed...! All kidding aside, you being on OpenSolaris is spectacular! Damn near causing a house party where I works. Hope you have fun at it. Best Regards Jason On 3/19/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROT

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Stefan. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Stefan Teleman wrote: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack Summary We would like to create an OpenSolaris project to assume and enhance the community and work originally created in Sun's C

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> You are overstating it a bit really. It will be > true for the users, > ut for developers imagine writing your code in a tiny > little display! I'm not sure what you mean by "tiny little display". The smallest thin client display is 17", and I'm pretty sure you can stick as big of a flat scre

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-19 Thread Casper . Dik
>Either approach (opendir()/dirfd() or open()/fdopendir()) >might be handy on Solaris or anything else that has openat(), >for use with multithreaded programs. (To be honest, our next revision of rm will store both an fd and a DIR*; with dirfd() it would need to only store the DIR *) Casper

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> > A function like dirfd() is probably needed for > completeness and > compatibility, though I wonder what people are using > it for Supposedly to do an opendir() then convert the result to something they could use with fchdir(), although it seems to me that if one was always going to do bot

[osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-19 Thread Ian Murdock
Hi all, It's being announced today that I'm joining Sun as chief operating platforms officer, which basically means I'll be in charge of Sun's operating system strategy, spanning Solaris and Linux. I just posted the announcement on my blog (http://ianmurdock.com/2007/03/19/joining-sun/), and it'l

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Well, I downloaded Flash Player 9 for SPARC, but my laptop's dead, so I couldn't try the x86 version. But that's a good point I suppose; if they get lots of downloads (both please, don't want to see them drop SPARC in favor of x86!), they just might take notice. This message posted from openso

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Someone should sue Adobe for anticompetitive > monopolistic behavior. That won't get their cooperation unless it wins. While I'm not a lawyer, I don't see how it could. Tell Adobe how they'll make money off of you for doing what you want, or just find some other alternative. Those who have lot

Re: [osol-discuss] on-src-DATE.tar.bz2

2007-03-19 Thread Stephen Lau
Oleksandr Karpenko wrote: Why the sources are removed for download? To save space and time. I have no OpenSolaris installed, no 'hg' - only Solaris. How can I download latest OpenSolaris sources? You can download the build snapshot source tarballs still. The most recent is at http://dlc.

[osol-discuss] [SVOSUG] Network Auto-Magic - Thurs. Mar. 22nd, 7:30pm - SCA03

2007-03-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
SVOSUG has what I consider a special meeting this month. John Beck will be giving a presentation on his OpenSolaris project, Network Auto-Magic. You can read about this project on the OpenSolaris webpage at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/ The reason this is such a special meeting t

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #53

2007-03-19 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Thanks to Eric for sending some items for inclusion in this weeks summary. Glynn == Glynn Foster announced [1] that student proposals for the Google Summer of Code were now open, and that OpenSolaris has been official accepted as a mentoring organization in that program. 1.http://mail.op

Re: [osol-discuss] Fire!! core dumped!

2007-03-19 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, eric wang wrote: Hi, All, A coredumped problem occured some time in a multi-thread as the following: - lwp# 1 / thread# 1 fd90b258 _lock_try_adaptive (0, fd91c000, 10018, 8, 0, 0) ^ From the stacktrace

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread Ghee Teo
UNIX admin wrote: I believe that's where Solaris is trying to head. It is advertised as "the most advanced OS" and that could very well be but it's not the most advanced DESKTOP OS. If it were it should do all those things already mentioned and for the IT, Sys admin and the coders still have all

[osol-discuss] Re: How to build a NAS box

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> Driver support is very limited. And when certain > hardware IS support, it isn't always clear how to > install/use it. Console commands buried in man pages > aren't going to cut it anymore -- I hope Unix will > join us in the 21st century by the time we hit 2010 > :) ALOM, meaning Advanced Lig

[osol-discuss] on-src-DATE.tar.bz2

2007-03-19 Thread Oleksandr Karpenko
Why the sources are removed for download? I have no OpenSolaris installed, no 'hg' - only Solaris. How can I download latest OpenSolaris sources? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@openso

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: opensolaris 10 express community support Sata drive?

2007-03-19 Thread ying tian - Sun Microsystems - Beijing China
For sata framework, please the following heads-up: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2006011301/ Thanks, - ying - UNIX admin wrote: This is not correct. Solaris Nevada introduces the sata framework in build 32, and so far there are already several sata framework-co

[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-19 Thread UNIX admin
> I believe that's where Solaris is trying to head. It > is advertised as "the most advanced OS" and that > could very well be but it's not the most advanced > DESKTOP OS. If it were it should do all those things > already mentioned and for the IT, Sys admin and the > coders still have all the cap