[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Suggestion: PCFS Open Development Project

2007-03-27 Thread Alexander Zakharov
Hi Frank, thank you for great amount of work you've done so far. We'll monitor your updates. Best regards, alexander. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: SXCE Build 60 available

2007-03-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Ron Halstead wrote: > > Where? > > Under the Quick Download Links: > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd/ > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_cd > > > > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > > -- > Derek Cicero > Program Manager > Solaris Kernel Grou

Re: [osol-discuss] Source problem

2007-03-27 Thread James C. McPherson
Martti Hamunen wrote: What is the reason? ./configure is ok but make not. It is here: # make make all-recursive Making all in po Making all in src source='disc.c' object='disc.o' libtool=no \ DEPDIR=.deps depmode=none /bin/bash ../depcomp \ cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include

[osol-discuss] Source problem

2007-03-27 Thread Martti Hamunen
What is the reason? ./configure is ok but make not. It is here: # make make all-recursive Making all in po Making all in src source='disc.c' object='disc.o' libtool=no \ DEPDIR=.deps depmode=none /bin/bash ../depcomp \ cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include -g -c disc.c "disc.c",

Re: [osol-discuss] RFC: new community/discussion group - "hardware"

2007-03-27 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
For example, if I bought a bunch of hardware pieces from Frys or Circuit City or some yum-cha shop and got it up and running with [Open]Solaris by sacrificing 3 virgins whilst doing a tribal dance, I don't see this as being of relevance to device-driver or other forums but at the same time, pote

[osol-discuss] RFC: new community/discussion group - "hardware"

2007-03-27 Thread Darren . Reed
I'd like to propose that either a new discussion forum or a new community and discussion forum be created for talk about Solaris on various platforms. I'm not sure if there should be a seperate one for sparc and x86. Maybe it becomes hardware:sparc and hardware:x86, I don't know. The goal is to

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> You seem to not like GNOME very much or the most > capable open source > browser we have available for the platform. It might > be better if you > proposed alternatives. I can't speak for him, but while I think GNOME _may_ have more potential, I think KDE is a lot slicker and faster feeling rig

[osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Proposal: new project for improving ON build times

2007-03-27 Thread Alexander Kolbasov
> I fully support this effort but I don't understand why a separate > project repository, webpage and mailing list is required. > > This is really just about the build tools and we already have a project > for this. > > So I VERY strongly suggest we do NOT create a project for this but > inste

Re: [osol-discuss] create image disk from solaris 10

2007-03-27 Thread Jerry Sutton
My Solaris 10 machine isn't booted at the moment but I believe my recollection is accurate (I'm on an S9 machine). If I am incorrect in any way I trust others will follow up. Read the prtvtoc man page (man prtvtoc). Notice that the partition with tag 5 is the entire disk. Use the correspond

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-27 Thread Casper . Dik
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>Here are unexpected outputs >>>echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' >>>FGH >>>echo EFG|/usr/xpg4/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' >>>FGH >>>Th >>>correct output >>>echo EFG|/usr/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' >>>efg >>>I only see this issue on SPARC solaris. both 06/06

[osol-discuss] Re: Keyboard doesn't work since b55

2007-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] / mail
Jonathan Heard napisał(a): I am seeing exactly the same issue on my Compaq evo N610c - I've even updated to the latest BIOS just in case there was an issue, but still - When I try to install b60 (Which is my first attempt to install OpenSolaris on my laptop) I cannot type anything after leavin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Board Election 2007/Constitution Ratification results

2007-03-27 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 07:48 am, Al Hopper wrote: > > * James D. Carlson, > > * Alan Coopersmith, > > * Casper Dik, > > * Glynn Foster, > > * Stephen Lau, > > * Rich Teer, and > > * Keith M. Wesolowski. > > Let me be the first to congratulate our new OGB Board m

[osol-discuss] Re: Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Hi, > > In Linux, the procfs interface is used for more than > just the process > related information. For instance, on my linux box, > /proc/fs/nfs/exports > shows the nfs exports and /proc/vmstat has vm > statistics etc... > > It looks like Solaris uses it only for exporting > information

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 04:49 am, Shawn Walker wrote: > "fat unstable GNOME" -- you realise that Sun chose GNOME as the > desktop a long time ago for Solaris? I also think that your > description of GNOME is rather unfair, and rather inaccurate. It might be innacurate, but this has long been the

[osol-discuss] Re: create image disk from solaris 10

2007-03-27 Thread UNIX admin
flarcreate(1M) aka Flash(TM)? Read up on it on docs.sun.com. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] create image disk from solaris 10

2007-03-27 Thread lukas
somebody knows how to create disk image contains 3 partition in solaris 10?? I tried ufsdump but this tools only copy files and also I tried g4u but not working because I have usb keyboard. you have any ideas?? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Re: problem with dd

2007-03-27 Thread lukas
> Not sure why you would want to backup using dd. Have > you looked at ufsdump / ufsrestore? > > Andrew. yes but only copy files, I need create image file This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-disc

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 09:05 am, Joerg Schilling wrote: > It may be that there is a bug in the voting software. I'm not sure why you say that, and while I think it was confusing the way it was setup (I had 2 different core contributors mention it was confusing to setup their key), it seemed to

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I did set up everything and when I connected via ssh, I did see a menu that > >allowed me to select between the "test vote (constitutuion" and the final OGB > >election. I selected the first and answered the question. The last question > >was > >a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Brian Nitz
Gnome had an applet (gimlet?) which sounds exactly like the KDE KB switcher you're describing, unfortunately it relied on a lobrary (xklavier) which depended on private X.org internals. Since not everyone uses X.org and even those who do don't all use the same version, the fact that it worked w

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-27 Thread Casper . Dik
>Here are unexpected outputs >echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' >FGH >echo EFG|/usr/xpg4/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' >FGH >Th >correct output >echo EFG|/usr/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' >efg >I only see this issue on SPARC solaris. both 06/06 11/06. The x86 one seems >to be fine. You need t

[osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-27 Thread Xie,Zhong
Here are unexpected outputs echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' FGH echo EFG|/usr/xpg4/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' FGH Th correct output echo EFG|/usr/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' efg I only see this issue on SPARC solaris. both 06/06 11/06. The x86 one seems to be fine. This message posted

[osol-discuss] UFS Soft partitions

2007-03-27 Thread Kory Wheatley
I'm looking for input and an example for what I'm about to accomplish with Soft partitions on our Solaris 10 Sparc system. We have 2 luns one is 153GB and the other is 156gb, and I've setup the disks to have everything on slice 0. These Luns are setup in an EMC Hardware Raid 5. Lun1 will cont

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Casper . Dik
>I did set up everything and when I connected via ssh, I did see a menu that >allowed me to select between the "test vote (constitutuion" and the final OGB >election. I selected the first and answered the question. The last question >was >a question for the OGB candidates which looked to me lik

Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mar 27, 2007, at 08:13, Joerg Schilling wrote: "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did finish the prevoting on March 12th? Yes, I was. S. ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas De Schampheleire
What I, with the few but existing experiences I've had with it, disfavor in GNOME is the fact that it does not look and feel good. It looks old, gray and basic, and does not work intuitively. KDE has a much fresher look, and has in my opinion a more intuitive interface. For example, I never reall

[osol-discuss] Links to rollup reports

2007-03-27 Thread Eric Boutilier
Here are links to the latest batch of overview reports (rollups). You can also receive them by subscribing to the RSS feed: http://del.icio.us/rss/bootblog/oss:rollups or bookmarking the URL: http://del.icio.us/bootblog/oss:rollups cab-discuss 03/01 - 03/15 http://mail.opens

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Brian Nitz
Shawn Walker wrote: On 26/03/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please, no entrenched GNOME or gcc. > > What does that mean? It means please do not take it down the Nexenta road of using gcc built packages and fat unstable GNOME. It "fat unstable GNOME" -- you rea

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Van Der Linden
Joerg Schilling wrote: Around March 12th, there was a mail that told us to to some kind of "testing" of the voting system and to vote for the constitution. I did set up everything and when I connected via ssh, I did see a menu that allowed me to select between the "test vote (constitutuion" and

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, James Carlson wrote: > An ioctl? How unlinucian. Why wouldn't that be more like this? > > # echo en_US > /proc/sys/kernel/locale You see? That's why I'd never make it as a Linux programmer! BTW, congrats on being elected to the OGB! -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSE

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread James Carlson
Rich Teer writes: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, James Carlson wrote: > > > On the plus side, by burying text formatting in the kernel where it > > doesn't belong, it makes i18n support range from "hard" to > > "impossible" to achieve. :-/ > > You mean you've not heard of the new Linux kernel 2.18 ioctl

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, James Carlson wrote: > On the plus side, by burying text formatting in the kernel where it > doesn't belong, it makes i18n support range from "hard" to > "impossible" to achieve. :-/ You mean you've not heard of the new Linux kernel 2.18 ioctl, IOCSETLOCALE? :-) -- Rich

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! > > > > Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did > > finish the prevoting on March 1

Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27/03/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! > > > > Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did > > finish the prevo

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! > > Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did > finish the prevoting on March 12th? Hi Joerg, I'm confused by this email - I have no

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did finish the prevoting on March 12th? I was. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun M

Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Shawn Walker
On 27/03/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did finish the prevoting on March 12th? I was. -- "Less is only more where more is no

Re: [osol-discuss] polls are closed !

2007-03-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting ! Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did finish the prevoting on March 12th? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Suggestion: PCFS Open Development Project

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Alexander Zakharov wrote: Hi Frank, What's the current status of your proposal? I'd like to take a part in this project if I can of course:) Best regards, alexander Hi Alexander, sorry for all the delay in this... Yes, the project is going ahead. I'll fill the project pa

[osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Board Election 2007/Constitution Ratification results

2007-03-27 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Stephen Hahn wrote: > >Complete results posted at > >http://poll.opensolaris.org/2/ > >Summary > >- With respect to Question 1, the Constitution is deemed ratified and > in effect, with 145 Ayes, 4 Nays, and 4 Abstaining. With 268 Core > Contributors,

[osol-discuss] Re: Keyboard doesn't work since b55

2007-03-27 Thread Jonathan Heard
I am seeing exactly the same issue on my Compaq evo N610c - I've even updated to the latest BIOS just in case there was an issue, but still - When I try to install b60 (Which is my first attempt to install OpenSolaris on my laptop) I cannot type anything after leaving the GRUB boot screen. This

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread James Carlson
Frank Hofmann writes: > Linux procfs is doing the wrong thing in the wrong place ... On the plus side, by burying text formatting in the kernel where it doesn't belong, it makes i18n support range from "hard" to "impossible" to achieve. :-/ -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <[EM

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Manoj Joseph wrote: [ ... ] The problem I am trying to solve is that I want to export to userland some information that is available in a kernel module - let's say my kernel module. The approaches that are being considered are 1) using the proc interface, 2) using ioctls

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Why a GUI installer? - was Re: Re: RE: Solaris on Intel's Classmate P

2007-03-27 Thread Calum Benson
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 02:14 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > Slightly off topic, but since you mentioned the disabilities act, > doesn't the U.S. government use Linux as well? And I haven't noticed > that the RedHat installer provides anything special for people with > disabilities. So how's come RedHat

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
Manoj Joseph wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: Is my understanding correct? If it is, does Solaris have an alternative for exporting more arbitrary information like Linux does? Yes OpenSolaris does this in a much more structured way that the arbitrary format text files that Linux does. For mos

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Casper . Dik
>Darren J Moffat wrote: > >>> Is my understanding correct? If it is, does Solaris have an >>> alternative for exporting more arbitrary information like Linux does? >> >> Yes OpenSolaris does this in a much more structured way that the >> arbitrary format text files that Linux does. >> >> For m

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
Manoj Joseph wrote: The problem I am trying to solve is that I want to export to userland some information that is available in a kernel module - let's say my kernel module. The approaches that are being considered are 1) using the proc interface, 2) using ioctls. Looks like 1 is not pos

[osol-discuss] Re: problem with dd

2007-03-27 Thread Andrew Pattison
Not sure why you would want to backup using dd. Have you looked at ufsdump / ufsrestore? Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Manoj Joseph
Darren J Moffat wrote: Is my understanding correct? If it is, does Solaris have an alternative for exporting more arbitrary information like Linux does? Yes OpenSolaris does this in a much more structured way that the arbitrary format text files that Linux does. For most of the things you d

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: SXCE Build 60 available

2007-03-27 Thread Andrew Pattison
How about changing the links on the download page to the "magic" ones which are automatically updated? In other words: http://opensolaris.org/sxce_dvd and the CD equivalent. Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Shawn Walker
On 26/03/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please, no entrenched GNOME or gcc. > > What does that mean? It means please do not take it down the Nexenta road of using gcc built packages and fat unstable GNOME. It "fat unstable GNOME" -- you realise that Sun chose G

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, In Linux, the procfs interface is used for more than just the process related information. For instance, on my linux box, /proc/fs/nfs/exports shows the nfs exports and /proc/vmstat has vm statistics etc... A dumping ground of semi-structured information that is IMO

[osol-discuss] ZFS filesystem online backup question

2007-03-27 Thread Łukasz
I have to backup many filesystems, which are changing and machines are heavy loaded. The idea is to backup online - this should avoid I/O read operations from disks, data should go from cache. Now I'm using script that does snapshot and zfs send. I want to automate this operation and add new op

[osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Proposal: new project for improving ON build times

2007-03-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
I fully support this effort but I don't understand why a separate project repository, webpage and mailing list is required. This is really just about the build tools and we already have a project for this. So I VERY strongly suggest we do NOT create a project for this but instead using the e

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN_SSH_1.1 vs openSSH

2007-03-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
Quyen Nguyen wrote: Hello, Does anyone know from which openSSH version that SUN_SSH_.1.1 was developed from? I need this info to complete the IA (Information Assurance) certification for Solaris 10 on x86 platform. This was also asked and answered in detail on security-discuss. -- Darren J

Re: [osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, In Linux, the procfs interface is used for more than just the process related information. For instance, on my linux box, /proc/fs/nfs/exports shows the nfs exports and /proc/vmstat has vm statistics etc... It looks like Solaris uses it only for exporting informati

[osol-discuss] Procfs in Solaris vs Linux

2007-03-27 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, In Linux, the procfs interface is used for more than just the process related information. For instance, on my linux box, /proc/fs/nfs/exports shows the nfs exports and /proc/vmstat has vm statistics etc... It looks like Solaris uses it only for exporting information relating to process

[osol-discuss] Re: problem with dd

2007-03-27 Thread lukas
I have 3 partition on hard drive. If I backup these partition using dd how I restore them?? Using another system (like Knoppix) or from this system?? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op