Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On 8/20/07, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> I beg to differ, as a Sun customer we are going commodity all the way. >> We >> >> haven't bought an Enterprise system since the 3800. Currently the >> majority >> >> of the Machines we are deploying are x4200s and T2000s. We are

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Patrick Ale
On 8/20/07, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you try the new installer in build 70? It just changed > the default layout. Yes, to the point it breaks on any big disk when you use an x86 platform. I tried a 200GB ATA disk, and it told me the '/' slice extended beyond the first 10

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> I beg to differ, as a Sun > customer we are going commodity all the way. We > haven't bought an Enterprise system since the > 3800. Currently the majority of the Machines we are > deploying are x4200s and T2000s. I find it funny that you use T2000 and commodity hardware in the same sentence. T2

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread MC
> I wonder what it would take to change that crazy "small root, the rest for > /export/home/" layout? > > I mean, what good is a "default" when it has to be modified as a rule and not > an exception? I think we need to find that "how should the file system layout be designed?" thread and stick

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Collins
MC wrote: >> I wonder what it would take to change that crazy "small root, the rest for >> /export/home/" layout? >> >> I mean, what good is a "default" when it has to be modified as a rule and >> not an exception? >> > > I think we need to find that "how should the file system layout be de

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Collins
Ian Collins wrote: > MC wrote: > >>> I wonder what it would take to change that crazy "small root, the rest for >>> /export/home/" layout? >>> >>> I mean, what good is a "default" when it has to be modified as a rule and >>> not an exception? >>> >>> >> I think we need to find tha

[osol-discuss] what does "subgraph" mean?

2007-08-20 Thread Harry Fu
Hi, folks: What does "subgraph" mean in the text: milestone=milestone Boot to the subgraph defined by the given milestone. Legitimate milestones are none, single-user, multi-user, multi-user-server, and all. We are going to translate the text. But I failed to find a official defination of a sub

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Patrick Ale
> > > Sorry, I forgot to check my filters, that should have been > caiman-discuss only. I actually filed a bug yesterday :) Patrick ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Does OpenSolaris support 48 bits LBA?

2007-08-20 Thread Daniel Tourde
Hello, This WE I tried to install Solaris 11 Nevada, beta 70 on a ASUS P5VD1-X based PC with a 320GB IDE HD. It did not went long, Solaris was unable to handle the HD... After some thinking and some check on the net, I suppose it has to do with the 48bits LBA issue (The 128 GB barrier). Back in

Re: [osol-discuss] Does OpenSolaris support 48 bits LBA?

2007-08-20 Thread Casper . Dik
>Hello, > >This WE I tried to install Solaris 11 Nevada, beta 70 on a ASUS P5VD1-X based >PC with a 320GB IDE HD. >It did not went long, Solaris was unable to handle the HD... After some >thinking and some check on the net, I suppose it has to do with the 48bits >LBA issue (The 128 GB barrier).

Re: [osol-discuss] Does OpenSolaris support 48 bits LBA?

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Collins
Daniel Tourde wrote: This would be better on opensolaris-help, CC'd. > Hello, > > This WE I tried to install Solaris 11 Nevada, beta 70 on a ASUS P5VD1-X based > PC with a 320GB IDE HD. > That shouldn't cause any problems. > It did not went long, Solaris was unable to handle the HD. In what w

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Strangly .. basic applications fail to launch. > > For example, I wanted to see what happens when I insert a Microsoft Windows > Vista Business Edition DVD into my machine. I would expect that it would be > automatically mounted but I was wrong .. snv

Re: [osol-discuss] Does OpenSolaris support 48 bits LBA?

2007-08-20 Thread Daniel Tourde
Hello, First of all. I am sorry if I asked this question to the wrong forum. I will send a mail to opensolaris-help as well. I am just a beginner on these forums... ;) > >This WE I tried to install Solaris 11 Nevada, beta 70 on a ASUS P5VD1-X > > based PC with a 320GB IDE HD. > >It did not w

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Lars Tunkrans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis , I agree with you that SNV70 is not mounting a Vista UDFS > dvd correctly > > I did a clean Install of Snv_70 on a new disc ( a 10.000 rpm disc which > contributes > nicely to the speed of the system btw ) > > The automount by

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Artem Kachitchkine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > # fstyp -v /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s2 | more > > hsfs > > Some DVDs contain two filesystems [1], hence mountable as either hsfs > and udfs. fstyp returns the first match, and that's what HAL will use. > One fix would be to treat these in the same fas

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
"W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It'd be great if we could run VMWare with Solaris as > > the guest OS. > > > > You mean with Solaris as a "host" OS? For me, only Solaris as host OS would be of interest > Does anyone have any experience on xen? thanks. Did someone use Xen and is

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-20 Thread Darren J Moffat
Joerg Schilling wrote: > "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> It'd be great if we could run VMWare with Solaris as >>> the guest OS. >>> >> You mean with Solaris as a "host" OS? > > For me, only Solaris as host OS would be of interest > >> Does anyone have any experience on xen? tha

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 23:57 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > UNIX admin wrote: > > I wonder what it would take to change that crazy "small root, the rest for > > /export/home/" layout? > > Did you try the new installer in build 70? It just changed > the default layout. > Nope, same thing, a l

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For me, only Solaris as host OS would be of interest > > > >> Does anyone have any experience on xen? thanks. > > > > Did someone use Xen and is it possible to run MS-WIN on case that > > the host platform supports Pacifica or Vanderbilt? > > Techn

[osol-discuss] Nevada b70. New graphic installer, no more partitionning option?

2007-08-20 Thread Daniel Tourde
Hello, I tried B70 (SXCE) this weekend and I noticed that with the new graphic installer it was not possible anymore to decide over the partitioning (x Gb in /, Y in /usr etc etc). Will it come back in the future? (B71, B72?) Daniel -- **

Re: [osol-discuss] Nevada b70. New graphic installer, no more partitionning option?

2007-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I installed Neveda build 70 and it gives me the option to select partitioning. Thanks P.S.M.Swamiji Daniel Tourde wrote: >Hello, > >I tried B70 (SXCE) this weekend and I noticed that with the new graphic >installer it was not possible anymore to decide over the partitioning (x Gb >in /, Y in /

Re: [osol-discuss] Does OpenSolaris support 48 bits LBA?

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Tourde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > This WE I tried to install Solaris 11 Nevada, beta 70 on a ASUS P5VD1-X based > PC with a 320GB IDE HD. > It did not went long, Solaris was unable to handle the HD... After some > thinking and some check on the net, I suppose it has to do wit

Re: [osol-discuss] Where can I ask questions regarding OS/NET, please?

2007-08-20 Thread James Carlson
Stephen Lau writes: > Gueven Bay wrote: [...] > > My question is - maybe someone just can clear it here - : It must be > > possible to make a small installation of SXCE to compile on-src (I made > > nightly compilations based on fully installed SXCE already, but I want to > > minimize the instal

Re: [osol-discuss] Nevada b70. New graphic installer, no more partitionning option?

2007-08-20 Thread Matt Keenan
Daniel, Thanks for trying the new installer. If you choose the Solaris Developer Release install option you get the new installer, it has restricted ability over partitioning/slicing, and preservation. This feature will be part of the new installer and is planned for a future release, hopefully

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Collins
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 23:57 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> UNIX admin wrote: >> >>> I wonder what it would take to change that crazy "small root, the rest for >>> /export/home/" layout? >>> >> Did you try the new installer in build 70? It just changed

Re: [osol-discuss] Portable UPnP SDK : build success

2007-08-20 Thread A murillo
Hi, Any updates on this? I have tried to compile and nothing (I dont have that much experience :-/).. maybe including it on the next build? Thanks! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@ope

Re: [osol-discuss] Portable UPnP SDK : build success

2007-08-20 Thread A murillo
Hi, Any updates on this? I have tried to compile and nothing (I dont have that much experience :-/).. maybe including it on the next build? Thanks! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@ope

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> Did you try the new installer in build 70? It just > changed > the default layout. No. I'm explicitly waiting for snv_71 to come out so that I can have a compressed ZFS root (snv_70 pukes on a ZFS compressed root, see bug # 6541114 http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> I suggest people with issues take them to those lists > rather than air > them here. Super. So: - this is not a Solaris helpdesk - Solaris 10 is not to be discussed here - issues with OpenSolaris are not to be discussed here What IS to be discussed on openSolaris-discuss then? This messa

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> All matters relating to the new installer and layout > have been and are > discussed on the caiman-discuss list, mostly copied > to the > install-discuss list. > > I suggest people with issues take them to those lists > rather than air > them here. FYI, I've already (long before you wrote this

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, UNIX admin wrote: >> I suggest people with issues take them to those lists >> rather than air >> them here. > > Super. So: > > - this is not a Solaris helpdesk > > - Solaris 10 is not to be discussed here > > - issues with OpenSolaris are not to be discussed here > > What IS t

Re: [osol-discuss] Nevada b70. New graphic installer, no more partitionning option?

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> Hello, > > I tried B70 (SXCE) this weekend and I noticed that > with the new graphic > installer it was not possible anymore to decide over > the partitioning (x Gb > in /, Y in /usr etc etc). > Will it come back in the future? (B71, B72?) Yes. I don't know when. Dave Miner would. Thi

Re: [osol-discuss] Best option for my home file server?

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> First, my situation. I have several disks of varying > sizes I would like to run as redundant storage ina > file server at home. Performance is not my number one > priority, largest capacity possible while allowing > for a single disk failure. Is there a soluton to my > problem? > > My understan

Re: [osol-discuss] Best option for my home file server?

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> Either way you can create a > RAID5/raidz with the drives and use excess space as > non-redundant storage. So pick your poison! RAIDZ is NOT RAID5. The two are almost radically different. For example, RAID5 MUST have at least three disks, RAIDZ can work with only two. All disks in a RAID5 con

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> if I click on Display I get nothing but an hour glass > and then ... nothing. > > I get a core file : > > $ file core > core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file 80386 Version 1, from > 'gnome_segv2' mdb core ::status $c $q This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> Some DVDs contain two filesystems [1], hence > mountable as either hsfs > and udfs. fstyp returns the first match, and that's > what HAL will use. > One fix would be to treat these in the same fashion > we treat hybrid > data+audio media, i.e. pop a dialog asking for user's > preference. A >

[osol-discuss] snv70 installer comments and issues

2007-08-20 Thread William D Waddington
The new SNV 70 GUI installer looks nice and moves right along. But. I can't find the "advanced options" button that lets me decide how to slice my solaris partition. And the minimum size of 8G is a pain. I'm installing multiple (throw-away) images under VMWare on a ThinkPad T61 and don't hav

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Casper . Dik
>> Some DVDs contain two filesystems [1], hence >> mountable as either hsfs >> and udfs. fstyp returns the first match, and that's >> what HAL will use. >> One fix would be to treat these in the same fashion >> we treat hybrid >> data+audio media, i.e. pop a dialog asking for user's >> preferen

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, UNIX admin wrote: > >>> I suggest people with issues take them to those lists >>> rather than air them here. >> >> Super. So: >> >> - this is not a Solaris helpdesk right. >> >> - Solaris 10 is not to be discussed here right. >> >> - issues with OpenSolaris are not

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Some DVDs contain two filesystems [1], hence > >> mountable as either hsfs > >> and udfs. fstyp returns the first match, and that's > >> what HAL will use. > >> One fix would be to treat these in the same fashion > >> we treat hybrid > >> data+audio media, i.e. p

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some DVDs contain two filesystems [1], hence > > mountable as either hsfs > > and udfs. fstyp returns the first match, and that's > > what HAL will use. > > One fix would be to treat these in the same fashion > > we treat hybrid > > data+audio media, i.

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Some DVDs contain two filesystems [1], hence >>> mountable as either hsfs >>> and udfs. fstyp returns the first match, and that's >>> what HAL will use. >>> One fix would be to treat these in the same fashion >>> we treat hybrid >>> data+audio me

[osol-discuss] Using script (perl or korn) to determine opened ports (Method must work in Solaris 8, 9 and 10)

2007-08-20 Thread Steven Sim
Gurus; Is there a way, through the procfs of Solaris to determine whether the a process has opened listening network ports? Either using Perl or otherwise? I know of a very iterative approach but if we apply the approach to all the ports and the processes in a running system, it well...does no

Re: [osol-discuss] Using script (perl or korn) to determine opened ports (Method must work in Solaris 8, 9 and 10)

2007-08-20 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Steven Sim wrote: > Gurus; > > Is there a way, through the procfs of Solaris to determine whether the a > process has opened listening network ports? > > Either using Perl or otherwise? > > I know of a very iterative approach but if we apply the approach to all > the ports and

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Why can't HAL simply cycle through the media, and mount ALL filesystems it > >> finds on it? > Generically, the 'cycle through' isn't that splendid an idea, especially > with multi-faced filesystems; a CD may contain: > > - an ElTorito boot image which is a F

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Alan Burlison
Lars Tunkrans wrote: > The automount by HAL and rmmount did not mount the UDF filesystem > > All it did was mounting a HSFS where a little text file " readme.txt" with > the following message appeared. > > "This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system > > tha

Re: [osol-discuss] sol-nv-b70-x86-dvd-iso zip files failed to

2007-08-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
What I meant is that the wildcard feature, which would save me 3.5 GB of HD space, is very difficult to find. BTW, not just Dennis, but even my neighbor, who runs a cement business, is telling me to use cdrecord. :-) This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Dave Miner
UNIX admin wrote: >> All matters relating to the new installer and layout have been and >> are discussed on the caiman-discuss list, mostly copied to the >> install-discuss list. >> >> I suggest people with issues take them to those lists rather than >> air them here. > > FYI, I've already (long

Re: [osol-discuss] Java package name allocations

2007-08-20 Thread Dave Miner
Peter Tribble wrote: > Is there a registry of java package names, to avoid name clashes? > > For example, in jkstat, can I just use org.opensolaris.jkstat? > > (And what's the difference between org.opensolaris and org.opensolaris.os?) > > It strikes me that there ought to be a central list of p

Re: [osol-discuss] Gathering support to replace the current DHCP

2007-08-20 Thread Dave Miner
Greg Potts wrote: >> Allen Wittenauer wrote: ... >>> As a sidenote, while the Solaris DHCP server >> back-end is supposed to >>> be pluggable, example code was (and probably still >> is) non-existent >>> unless you grovel through the (Open)Solaris >> codebase. When I last >>> asked Dave Miner abou

Re: [osol-discuss] sol-nv-b70-x86-dvd-iso zip files failed to

2007-08-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
> What I meant is that the wildcard feature, which would save me 3.5 GB of HD > space, is very difficult to find. > > BTW, not just Dennis, but even my neighbor, who runs a cement business, is > telling me to use cdrecord. :-) > those cement people are pretty savvy. They know that construction

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lars Tunkrans wrote: > > > The automount by HAL and rmmount did not mount the UDF filesystem > > > > All it did was mounting a HSFS where a little text file " readme.txt" > > with > > the following message appeared. > > > > "This disc contains

Re: [osol-discuss] sol-nv-b70-x86-dvd-iso zip files failed to

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
"W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I meant is that the wildcard feature, which would save me 3.5 GB of HD > space, is very difficult to find. > > BTW, not just Dennis, but even my neighbor, who runs a cement business, is > telling me to use cdrecord. :-) The ratio between what

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_70 odd behavior

2007-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: > This is what mkisofs does and it may be that a lot of other software works > in a similar way. > > It is good practice to add hsfs for compatibility and the current mkisofs > version even supports to archive files up to 8 TB while it can only support >

[osol-discuss] OT: Coffee, was Re: SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Peter Tribble
On 8/20/07, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the other hand we can discuss how to make great coffee. That will > probably be on topic here. My company has a nice policy - tea/coffee/etc are free, provided you offer to make the rest of your team a drink if you get one for yourself.

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread Patrick Ale
On 8/20/07, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can have the discussion here if that's what floats your boat, but > you can also be certain that most of the people you'd like to have the > discussion with will *not* be participating in it because they've got > better things to do than wade

Re: [osol-discuss] Best option for my home file server?

2007-08-20 Thread MC
> > Either way you can create a > > RAID5/raidz with the drives and use excess space > as > > non-redundant storage. So pick your poison! > > RAIDZ is NOT RAID5. The two are almost radically > different. > > For example, RAID5 MUST have at least three disks, > RAIDZ can work with only two. > >

Re: [osol-discuss] Fonts looking bad vs Windows?

2007-08-20 Thread ken mays
No offense taken, I just feel generally bad pestering the Solaris developers. On topic: here is a closeup of Vista, Mac and Ubuntu fonts. It would be interesting to see Solaris fonts too? And maybe mail the blogger? http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=682 -- The ZDNet writer did

Re: [osol-discuss] Using script (perl or korn) to determine opened ports (Method must work in Solaris 8, 9 and 10)

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Collins
Steven Sim wrote: > Gurus; > > Is there a way, through the procfs of Solaris to determine whether the a > process has opened listening network ports? > > Either using Perl or otherwise? > > I know of a very iterative approach but if we apply the approach to all > the ports and the processes in a

Re: [osol-discuss] Using script (perl or korn) to determine opened ports (Method must wor

2007-08-20 Thread David Burge
> Gurus; > > Is there a way, through the procfs of Solaris to > determine whether the a > process has opened listening network ports? > > Either using Perl or otherwise? > > I know of a very iterative approach but if we apply > the approach to all > the ports and the processes in a running sys

Re: [osol-discuss] sol-nv-b70-x86-dvd-iso zip files failed to

2007-08-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> those cement people are pretty savvy. They know that > construction never > goes out of style and it is the most stable > investment if done right. > > dc > Actually, these days it is more profitable importing (construction grade) sand from Canada. I was often told that you will do very wel

[osol-discuss] one user logined with different toos get different $PATH value, why?

2007-08-20 Thread wan_jm
one user login into solaris, when using SecureCRT with ssh, the $PATH=/opt/SUNWspro/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin. but when using xmanager , the $PATH=/opt/SUNWspro/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin could you tell me the reason? thanks.

[osol-discuss] [SVOSUG] Desktop Update - Thurs. August 23rd SCA03 7:30pm

2007-08-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
It's that time of month for the SVOSUG meeting again, and we have something a little different than our normal type meetings, and as of recent I've been getting requests to show compiz at the user group meeting and/or show it running on Solaris/OpenSolaris. This month we'll be doing an presenta

Re: [osol-discuss] snv70 installer comments and issues

2007-08-20 Thread S h i v
Hi Bill, Queries about the new installer are best answered at caiman-discuss mailing list which is the list for new installer related discussions. Some of the points below have already been raised on that list and responded to. You may want to look at the archives before posting the query. Coupl

Re: [osol-discuss] Best option for my home file server?

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> > For example, RAID5 MUST have at least three disks, > > RAIDZ can work with only two. > > > > All disks in a RAID5 config MUST be the same size, > > RAIDZ will take any size disks, although it will > warn > > about it, it will work. ... > He was simply trying to decide how to allocate his > d

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE 70's installer and laying out file systems

2007-08-20 Thread UNIX admin
> well only issues that are not covered under some > other mailist and > herefore the offending party needs to be advised they > have committed an > offense. "An offense"? What is this, a prison camp? Is there an offense code, pardon, spec, too? So much for friendly community. This whole "polici