Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread Ginn Chen
No, on the contrary, nightly builds are only against OpenSolaris. It could not start on b132, because an old bug was triggered by a change between snv_131 and snv_132. You can use LD_BIND_NOW=1 ./firefox to get around. Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH may also get around, but I don't understand why.

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Gary g_patri...@yahoo.com wrote: I would doubt Oracle would continue to let licensed binary bits of Solaris be a continued part of an open source project. Likely those binary bits would have to be recoded and not contain any Sun copyrighted code. A large part of the source code is still

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread Andrew Stormont
Not that one again :( On 5 February 2010 10:55, Ginn Chen ginn.c...@sun.com wrote: No, on the contrary, nightly builds are only against OpenSolaris. It could not start on b132, because an old bug was triggered by a change between snv_131 and snv_132. You can use LD_BIND_NOW=1 ./firefox to

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Tomas Bodzar
I'm curious why your e-mail response is not here? Do you worry about something? Our efforts emphasize portability, standardization, correctness, proactive security and integrated cryptography. only 2 of 5 things are about security. Anyway anyone who connects his/her

[osol-discuss] Upgrading to b132 : zone upgrade

2010-02-05 Thread Bruno Damour
Hello, I have just upgraded from b131 to b132 on my home server. Everything worked very well : pkg image-update. I was just wondering how to upgrade my non-global zones, and was a bit worried because I used to run sparse zones and thought I was stuck with full upgrade of the zone. However I

Re: [osol-discuss] Upgrading to b132 : zone upgrade

2010-02-05 Thread Bruno Damour
OK understood Thanks -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] strange ps behaviour

2010-02-05 Thread Casper . Dik
I noticed that : # /bin/ps --help /bin/ps: illegal option -- help usage: ps [ -aAdefHlcjLPyZ ] [ -o format ] [ -t termlist ] [ -u userlist ] [ -U userlist ] [ -G grouplist ] [ -p proclist ] [ -g pgrplist ] [ -s sidlist ] [ -z zonelist ] [-h lgrplist]

Re: [osol-discuss] strange ps behaviour

2010-02-05 Thread Bruno Damour
On second thought it seems the ps command is switchning between bsd behaviour (old /usr/ucb/ps) if options are not preceded with '-' and new solaris behaviour if there is a '-' Is that correct ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] strange ps behaviour

2010-02-05 Thread Casper . Dik
On second thought it seems the ps command is switchning between bsd behaviour (old /usr/ucb/ps) if options are not preceded with '-' and new solaris behaviour if there is a '-' Is that correct ? Almost. This is what the main routine in ps look like today: int main(int argc, char **argv) {

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread John Martin
For some reason Firefox 3.6 (tar.gz version) won't start in b132 (it worked in b131). Looks like the nightly build was built only against S10? Please this not be the case; so many people have worked so hard on OpenSolaris! The NVIDIA graphics driver is only built on S10. Binary

Re: [osol-discuss] strange ps behaviour

2010-02-05 Thread Bruno Damour
Ok Thanks for your detailed explanation !!! Bruno -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] Toshiba M10 - 111 to 131 upgrade issues - GDM fails, blank screen

2010-02-05 Thread Jürgen Keil
Robert Milkowski wrote: On 03/02/2010 12:25, Jürgen Keil wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Toshiba R600, up-to snv_129 X is working fine. snv_131 and the moment Xorg starts the notebook does hard-reset (quick power-off) - no crash dump, no nothing, When I booted under kernel debugger the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs OpenSolaris (NOW: Read The ARCHIVES)

2010-02-05 Thread Bruce
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:27:48 +0100, Casper.Dik-UdXhSnd/wVw wrote: On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:33:27 -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: PLEASE GO READ THE MAILING LIST ARCHIVES. This question has been asked, discussed, and answered by several folks (myself included) in fairly exhaustive detail, a

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Gary
I'll ask any question I want, so GFY! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
No, on the contrary, nightly builds are only against OpenSolaris. Thanks, it always helps to know this is the case. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Gary wrote: I'll ask any question I want, so GFY! Last warning: another mail like that and you'll be removed from the mailing list. -- Alan Burlison -- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs OpenSolaris (NOW: Read The ARCHIVES)

2010-02-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Bruce wrote: On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:27:48 +0100, Casper.Dik-UdXhSnd/wVw wrote: Unless, of course, google is now sponsoring people to post such remarks; then it is fruitful for the person who tells you to use google? Are you in the pay of Big Oil^H^H^H^H^H^H^HGoogle I wish :-) Be

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I'll ask any question I want, so GFY! Chinese using a Western name talks about using real names! Message was edited by: gpatrick It is way beyond my dignity to even read your post, but my great great grand father immigrated from China to Maui some time after the Civil War, I am

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread Alexander
Thanks to all developers for good dev release :) If it contained rlwrap, it would be priceless... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs OpenSolaris

2010-02-05 Thread Roger Savard
Thanks for the answers, it is clear now. As far as using URL's I have no problem with that however, since here we have the opportunity to 'talk' directly Oracle/Sun developpers I thaught I'd ask. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Opensolaris.org vs Opensolaris.com

2010-02-05 Thread Roger Savard
After I've watched both sites for awhile, I noticed everything happens in the .org website and only whenever there is a new realease that (.com) comes alive. The image projected with opensolaris.com is corporate and opensolaris.org is for dev. Since opensolaris is not intended for the Enterprise

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Rick N
as far as PC clones goes: What about a release cycle that last for years, nevermind this every 6month/1year crap. which is what crash n burn Ubuntu does. None of these will fill the gap as good as 1 major release and updates follow (aka, the way Windows does it, yes Windows, ie: WinXP for years

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread Anon Y Mous
Thanks to all developers for good dev release :) If it contained rlwrap, it would be priceless... I'm still holding my breath for a 100% functional version of the lsof utility: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsof to be integrated in to OpenSolaris. Trying to use pfiles shell scripts to grep

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 09:48 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ken Gunderson wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 09:15 +, Ghee Teo wrote: Ken Gunderson wrote But hey, let's take an optimistic stance and assume Oracle doesn't let OpenSolaris die on the vine - if/when we actually do get another

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 02/ 5/10 01:13 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: If OS was able to maintain at twice per year release cycle I should think this wouldn't be a problem. I realize things have been a bit unsettling for Sun employees this past year (all the ones I know personally were RIF'd.) and that that has likely

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 11:54 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/ 3/10 11:32 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 09:15 +, Ghee Teo wrote: Ken Gunderson wrote But hey, let's take an optimistic stance and assume Oracle doesn't let OpenSolaris die on the vine - if/when we

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:54 +, Calum Benson wrote: On 3 Feb 2010, at 17:54, Shawn Walker wrote: However, as you are aware, GNOME release schedules slip too sometimes :) Actually, they very rarely do... from memory, I think the GNOME community have only slipped their release once in

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Rick N wrote: as far as PC clones goes: What about a release cycle that last for years, nevermind this every 6month/1year crap. which is what crash n burn Ubuntu does. None of these will fill the gap as good as 1 major release and updates follow (aka, the way Windows does it, yes Windows, ie:

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 02/ 5/10 01:25 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 11:54 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: However, as you are aware, GNOME release schedules slip too sometimes :) Huh?? I'm having a hard time remembering the last time Gnome slipped release schedule. Quit spreading untruths, else

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 02/ 5/10 01:27 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: I've been busy with other things the past couple days and just now getting caught up on this thread. Thank you for your timely correction of Shawn's spin doctoring of the facts. I didn't *spin* anything, I just said that they slipped sometimes. But

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 15:41 +, Bruce wrote: On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:12:22 -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote: Hello: Perhaps OpenSolaris should consider adopting a once per year release cycle since twice per year is evidently unmanageable. At the very least I should think it would be a

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 09:18 -0800, Peter Jones wrote: Clearly the release cycle has a number of facets..The speed of required adoption for software products,phase of the development cycle, and the speed of development afforded by internal development resources.In todays world everyone

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 11:52 -0800, R. Eenigne wrote: It's really just a firewall. Once you install other pkgs then you're on your own. What planet are you from? I've used OBSD since 2.x days - that's over a decade - as mailservers, webservers, firewalls, routers, desktop, etc. deployments

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 05:22 -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: If Oracle pulled the plug on OpenSolaris wouldn't it die? If oracle pulled the plug ... what precisely does that mean? They don't own it. They can't forbid anyone from using it. But they do contribute a lot to it. So let's

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:43 -0800, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: Bullshit. Well said Alan! This FUD's getting tedious. Agreed. BTW alanc, speaking purely for myself, I happen to think OpenSolaris is pretty darn awesome, and I'm very appreciative of the efforts

Re: [osol-discuss] Build 131 in reboot loop [Solved]

2010-02-05 Thread Gary Gendel
build 132 seems to work fine. And... The zpool scrub errors are gone. That pretty much clinches that I tripped over some zfs bug that is now fixed. SXCE 46-124 - no scrub errors (I believe 120 had the odd-disk raidz checksum bug so I skipped that) OSOL 111b - random scrub errors (unable

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 13:18 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/ 5/10 01:13 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: If OS was able to maintain at twice per year release cycle I should think this wouldn't be a problem. I realize things have been a bit unsettling for Sun employees this past year (all the

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 13:32 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/ 5/10 01:25 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 11:54 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: However, as you are aware, GNOME release schedules slip too sometimes :) Huh?? I'm having a hard time remembering the last time Gnome

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:27 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: Rick N wrote: as far as PC clones goes: What about a release cycle that last for years, nevermind this every 6month/1year crap. which is what crash n burn Ubuntu does. None of these will fill the gap as good as 1 major release and

[osol-discuss] beadm rename fails

2010-02-05 Thread Bill Shannon
Trying to upgrade from b127 to b132. After working around some other bugs, pkg image-update succeeded, but left me with a BE with a stupid name. I tried to rename it (while still running in the old BE) but it fails saying unmount failed. truss shows that it's trying to unmount /! Yow, that's

Re: [osol-discuss] beadm rename fails

2010-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 02/ 5/10 02:39 PM, Bill Shannon wrote: Trying to upgrade from b127 to b132. After working around some other bugs, pkg image-update succeeded, but left me with a BE with a stupid name. I tried to rename it (while still running in the old BE) but it fails saying unmount failed. truss shows

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Ken Gunderson wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:27 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: What you describe is /EXACTLY/ what happens with Solaris 10. And will happen in good time with Solaris Next (aka Solaris 11 or whatever it gets called). For now (and, likely even post-Solaris Next), OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
snip In any case, there's plenty of reason for folks outside Sun/Oracle to build their own distro to cater to their needs snip -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA One of the most significant but often overlooked advantages of

Re: [osol-discuss] beadm rename fails

2010-02-05 Thread Bill Shannon
Shawn Walker wrote on 02/ 5/10 12:49 PM: On 02/ 5/10 02:39 PM, Bill Shannon wrote: Trying to upgrade from b127 to b132. After working around some other bugs, pkg image-update succeeded, but left me with a BE with a stupid name. I tried to rename it (while still running in the old BE) but it

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Gary
Remove me then. I couldn't care less, that clown was out of line as well. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 13:03 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: Ken Gunderson wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:27 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: What you describe is /EXACTLY/ what happens with Solaris 10. And will happen in good time with Solaris Next (aka Solaris 11 or whatever it gets

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 bug list?

2010-02-05 Thread Ian Collins
Brandon High wrote: Is there a list of bugs in b132? I'd like to know if the sharesmb name= bug has been fixed before upgrading. Can't you check the bug database? -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Ken Gunderson wrote: Thank you for the clarification. I interpreted previous comments from an opensolaris.org address earlier in the thread that such was never the case. Note that anyone who signs up for an account can get an opensolaris.org address, and having one does not indicate any

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 02/ 5/10 03:58 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 13:03 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: ... 6 months is a goal, not a firm commitment on anyone's part - this is Development, not Release Engineering. :-) Thank you for the clarification. I interpreted previous comments from an

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 bug list?

2010-02-05 Thread Mika Borner
On 02/ 5/10 11:00 PM, Brandon High wrote: Is there a list of bugs in b132? I'd like to know if the sharesmb name= bug has been fixed before upgrading. -B It should be fixed. I use this: gem http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b132/on-changelog-b132.html Adjust the b??? in the URL if

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs OpenSolaris (NOW: Read The ARCHIVES)

2010-02-05 Thread Bruce D Porter
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:45:13 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: Bruce wrote: On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:27:48 +0100, Casper.Dik-UdXhSnd/wVw wrote: Unless, of course, google is now sponsoring people to post such remarks; then it is fruitful for the person who tells you to use google? Are you in the

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