Jim Walker wrote:
..
Vladimir Kotal from the Solaris RPE Security group, has released the NetCat
test
suite.
More information on the NetCat test suite can be found at:
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/networking/tests/nc/
Mark Martin wrote:
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:21 PM, James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Martin writes:
...
It's never as simple as just doing ./configure and make. If it
were, then there'd really be no point in having a repository at
On Saturday, I walked over to the googleplex to attend the
Google Summer of Code mentor summit. This is for all of
the mentors from GSoC projects to get together and reflect
on what worked, what didn't work, etc.
Most of the sessions were people talking about what they
worked on (which wasn't
Brandorr wrote:
On 8/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is a SIG? Special Interest Group.
Why should we consider SIGs for OpenSolaris?
At present the only level of abstraction that we have in
the OpenSolaris community is that of communities. We
have
What is a SIG? Special Interest Group.
Why should we consider SIGs for OpenSolaris?
At present the only level of abstraction that we have in
the OpenSolaris community is that of communities. We
have communities for high level concepts (networking)
and for very specific products (zfs) as well
I'd like to see a new community added to the opensolaris that
supports developers of software that runs on top of opensolaris.
Why do we need that?
Because not every application that a developer wants to build
will fit into one of our buckets. We need a catch-all that can be
a home to people
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Inside Sun, there is a committee known as the
Product Approval Committee that has oversight
of what goes into Solaris. As this also impacts
what is putback into nevada, it has oversight of
OpenSolaris too, at present.
Is there any thought
Brian Gupta wrote:
I don't know that there are as many
open source artists, do you?
Have you been to Creative Commons lately? Wikipedia? Flickr? I don't
write code, but I write words in blogs and presentations and I take
thousands of photos and I give all of it away under the CC license. And
Inside Sun, there is a committee known as the
Product Approval Committee that has oversight
of what goes into Solaris. As this also impacts
what is putback into nevada, it has oversight of
OpenSolaris too, at present.
Is there any thought that the same will (or will not :) be
needed for
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Inside Sun, there is a committee known as the
Product Approval Committee that has oversight
of what goes into Solaris. As this also impacts
what is putback into nevada, it has oversight of
OpenSolaris too, at present.
Is there any thought
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Lau wrote:
I still maintain that identity and 'creating a mark' are not issues
that should involve the OGB. The OGB should be about governance,
not a generic leadership board. These sorts of things are best left
Stephen Lau wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
From the very start of this, my position has been that getting this
to properly motivate people requires a competition with a prize at
the end and that for this reason it requires more thought than the
community just doing it.
The only
Simon Phipps wrote:
I would like to suggest follow-up is directed solely to advocacy-
discuss (I have set reply-to).
On Jun 26, 2007, at 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And yes, I feel that some kind of prize or reward is essential,
otherwise
we don't stand a very good chance of getting
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
...
If you feel strongly about that strategy in general, perhaps you'd
like to go do the legwork and find out what's required to set up an
independent 501(c)(3) or similar foundation (or a non-US equivalent if
that would be advantageous). Without something like that,
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is making OpenSolaris a non profit organisation on the
agenda of the OGB?
No - what would the benefit of that be?
To make it an attractive destination for other companies,
besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware.
Or is making OpenSolaris
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To make it an attractive destination for other companies,
besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware.
And what would we do with that? (Really - I'm coming from
a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a hard
time finding ways to
Simon Phipps wrote:
On Jun 26, 2007, at 02:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't anyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris
actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself
rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all?
OK, I'm confused. Earlier you asserted
Steven Stallion wrote:
All,
I'm curious if there are any other community members out there who would be
interested in taking up the proverbial torch and work on sparc v8 ON port.
I think it would be tough to find a sparcv8 system that would be
capable of supporting enough RAM for nevada.
In addition to coming up with a catch phrase or a very short
definition about what OpenSolaris is about, we also need a
mascot/logo - the current splattering of source code with the
open(2) is cute from a geek perspective but it is hardly the
kind of thing you could expect people to carry on
I should have asked what the intention of the rbridges-dev list
was before jumping to too many conclusions...
James Carlson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If closed membership lists are to be the way of the future
then I have a couple of requests:
* please do *NOT* cc open membership lists
Hi Kimberley,
If you've got questions relating to Solaris 10 then there are
other forums you should check on first with your questions.
Those here are related to OpenSolaris.
Places you might try are:
http://forum.java.sun.com/index.jspa?tab=solaris
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/discussions/
Steven Stallion wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:29:41 -0700, Hugh McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I guess the OP's goal is to run this on the Infrant ReadyNAS box, not an
old Sun box. See www.infrant.com. This appears to come with 256MB of
memory (not enough for install, but maybe doable
Dennis Clarke wrote:
...
The following packages are available:
1 BRCMbnx Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit
Ethernet Adapter Driver
(i386) 11.11,REV=2007.06.01.10.25
2 CADP160 Adaptec Ultra160
Before I get to the question in the subject, let me spell out
the background for it:
Linux - *the* open source operating system/kernel
FreeBSD - promotes itself as being the BSD to use for desktop/server
NetBSD - promotes itself as being easy port
OpenBSD - promotes itself as being the most
James Carlson wrote:
The RBridges project is now open:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/rbridges/
This project, based on research by Radia Perlman, will deliver a new
bridging mechanism into OpenSolaris. This will implement the
protocols now under development in the IETF's TRILL
Stephen Hahn wrote:
...
I think these are all good points, and think your proposed slogans are
pretty good candidates, too. I believe I've seen similar ideas in
both the Advocacy group and the Indiana project, too--I also remember
that Dennis has pushed out some possibilities in the past
MC wrote:
...
You can't dictionary brute force a fingerprint remotely, and you can't forget
your finger :)
Good fingerprint authentication is better than passwords in dare I say every way, EXCEPT
for when you are a high profile target who might be stalked for finger access. The
hordes of
Francois Saint-Jacques wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 07:09:06PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If I want to build just a specific kernel module, I cd to
usr/src/uts/intel/ip (for example, to build just ip) and
type make all in that directory.
Similarly I can do a make in various
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Francois Saint-Jacques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Beforing getting in the package management/installation stuff, I think we
need to solve a big problem here: ON build. The current build process is
really monolithic and unfriendly for new commers. What is all that
Francois Saint-Jacques wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:35:33AM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote:
One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a
mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking
that the best option would be to include templates
Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary
designations we give to people - contributor and community
leader are amongst these.
I'd like to propose that how contributor status is designated
such that it is granted to anyone and everyone that is in a
position to do a putback or
Joerg Schilling wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary
designations we give to people - contributor and community
leader are amongst these.
I'd like to propose that how contributor status is designated
such that it is granted to anyone and
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ultimately, I'd like to see it removed.
*Everyone* should be a contributor or able to be one.
Then you're basically redefining it to be the same as Participant,
which is anyone who filled out the registration form on opensolaris.org,
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[Added ogb-discuss, since that's where any real change has to
happen - opensolaris-discuss will get you nothing useful.]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary
designations we give to people - contributor and community
Jim Walker wrote:
Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary
designations we give to people - contributor and community
leader are amongst these.
I'd like to propose that how contributor status is designated
such that it is granted to anyone and everyone that is in a
position to
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Ian Murdock wrote:
2. With all the negative opinions about Linux around here, I'm surprised
to have to say this, but: Multiple distributions without a reference for
compatibility is *not* a feature of Linux we want to emulate! I know,
I've
spent the better part of the
Ian Murdock wrote:
On 5/31/07, Alan Burlison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The level of beaurocracy in OpenSolaris exceeds what I've seen
in any other open source group by an order of magnitude and
is a facet of life at Sun that we seem to have carried over from
Solaris to OpenSolaris, for
Ian Murdock wrote:
So, it seems the crux of the matter is the following decision:
1. OpenSolaris should remain a source base only. Sun
and others use that source base to build (potentially incompatible)
operating systems based on the OpenSolaris code base.
2. OpenSolaris should be an
Glynn Foster wrote:
Hi,
Eric Boutilier wrote:
I can't see how it makes sense for the reference distro of
a community project to be a Sun internal project.
Who said anything about a Sun internal project?
I too am under the impression that the design and blessing of an
Alan Burlison wrote:
Bonnie Corwin wrote:
I take it that means either I missed something (if so, help please)
or the
OGB is behind on publishing meeting minutes...
I think this is about more than meeting minutes. If there is a new
policy, it seems there should be email to at least the
At present, we have:
Schillix - Joerg Schilling
Belenix -
Nexenta -
marTux -
Solaris Express - Sun
??? - OpenSolaris
*
Does the OGB have any plans for when the first release
of OpenSolaris from the OpenSolaris community will be
made?
Or will the OpenSolaris project concentrate on just the
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the OGB have any plans for when the first release
of OpenSolaris from the OpenSolaris community will be
made?
No, but the opensolaris-marketing community has recently
suggested a reference distro, and Project Indiana proposes
exactly
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the OGB have any plans for when the first release
of OpenSolaris from the OpenSolaris community will be
made?
No, but the opensolaris-marketing community has recently
suggested a
Danek Duvall wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 01:04:26PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Browsing through the online CVS archive at
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/
I noticed that there are no Attic directories.
Thus files which we delete from opensolaris
Browsing through the online CVS archive at
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/
I noticed that there are no Attic directories.
Thus files which we delete from opensolaris are no longer available.
I'd like to request that the presentation of CVS via the web site be
OpenSolaris community.
The initial project team will consist of Nicolas Droux (preferred
point of contact), Erik Nordmark, Sunay Tripathi, Miriam Kadansky,
Kevin Fox, and Garrett D'Amore.
+1
Darren Reed
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opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris
[from install-discuss]
Recently I tried to install S10U3 inside vmware on a 500GB disk but ran into a
small problem: the disk partitioning using by Solaris (fdisk) does not seem
able to deal with large disks as presented by VMWare. To test whether or not it
was a vmware vs solaris bug, I tried
I'd like to propose that either a new discussion forum or a
new community and discussion forum be created for talk
about Solaris on various platforms. I'm not sure if there
should be a seperate one for sparc and x86. Maybe it becomes
hardware:sparc and hardware:x86, I don't know.
The goal is
Hi Jim,
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
..
I read this exchange (which I heavily snipped) on universities and
asked some people who are doing the OpenSolaris university work. I
blogged it:
http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/opensolaris_at_school
We are making some nice progress at universities,
Erast Benson wrote:
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 21:25 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
I would like to see OpenSolaris buildable on OpenSolaris.
This needs that some more pieces of code need to be at least
redistributable.
+1
+1
Yes, OpenSolaris needs to become self hosting.
Darren
Stephen Lau wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 21:25 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
I would like to see OpenSolaris buildable on OpenSolaris.
This needs that some more pieces of code need to be at least
redistributable.
+1
BTW: I
James Mansion wrote:
And they start to find it hard to make time to spend time on
anything that isn't work - ie open source projects. I've seen
That *was* my point.
this happen on a number of occasions. And contrary to what
you're suggesting, they don't turn up an opensolaris,
James Mansion wrote:
complete with some suggestions for the future and what I think
it will take for it to really succeed - mostly time.
Darren,
You suggest that it is a 'problem' that contributing to Open Solaris is
a contribution to Sun. As a user, that is precisely one of Open
Solaris'
If I can steal the spotlight for a second, I'd like to point people at a blog
entry I've put up that discusses my take on what is success in terms of
OpenSolaris, complete with some suggestions for the future and what I think it
will take for it to really succeed - mostly time.
...it won't need Sun to exist. Or so long as OpenSolaris needs Sun in order to
move forward, OpenSolaris cannot be a success.
The success of an open source operating system has got nothing to do with the
licence it has but whether it can sustain itself as a volunteer effort alone.
The biggest
Nicolas Williams wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:53:17PM -0400, James Carlson wrote:
Oh! Well then... But those deal in structured data also...
It's a bit different in that you have to specify enterpriseId in order
to get to a parsed message content, as opposed to just meta
information.
Nicolas Williams wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:58:27PM -0400, James Carlson wrote:
It depends on whether there is in fact a solid problem out there that
this solves. I'm unconvinced on that. Giving message integrity to
syslog seems a bit wobbly to me, but I guess I can see why someone
To bring the syslogd shipped with Solaris up to a level that is
more in line with what is found in other systems today, I'd like
to propose a project to upgrade it.
Tasks currently scoped out for this project include:
- introduce some of the more modern aspects of syslog.conf such as the
use of
Gavin Maltby wrote:
On 06/09/06 11:31, Darren Reed wrote:
To bring the syslogd shipped with Solaris up to a level that is
more in line with what is found in other systems today, I'd like
to propose a project to upgrade it.
Tasks currently scoped out for this project include:
- introduce some
Henry B. Hotz wrote:
On Jun 9, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Darren Reed wrote:
If there is any evolution of the log file format, it will
be to use XML. XML and structured data have featured
heavily in discussions about advancing syslog and the
benefits are clear: data gets typed. If the protocol
data
Torrey McMahon wrote:
Darren Reed wrote:
To bring the syslogd shipped with Solaris up to a level that is
more in line with what is found in other systems today, I'd like
to propose a project to upgrade it.
Tasks currently scoped out for this project include:
- introduce some of the more
on the projects page. There is information
there about proposing a new project (which would presumably be needed)
and a pointer to information about what and how to post binaries and/or
source.
http://opensolaris.org/os/projects
Thanks.
Bonnie
Darren Reed wrote On 05/23/06 22:42,:
Do we have a recipe
Do we have a recipe for what a project should do if we would
like to make either or both source code and binary bits available
through OpenSolaris for people to try out?
Should we build special patches/packages or just upload .tar
files and say here you go, use at your own risk ?
Darren
David Bustos wrote:
I propose a project to enhance SMF profiles. The goals are to allow
profiles to specify arbitrary service properties (today's profiles may
only specify whether services should be enabled), to allow
administrators to specify a customization profile during JumpStart, and
to
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Darren Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It occurred to me today that there is overlap but it isn't perhaps
a complete overlap as one might tend to believe.
The embedded community isn't just appliances.
It is also many other things - for examples, cars.
Wouldn't
Chris Ricker wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2006, Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote:
I belive this comment is about the following
As an example, when Red Hat released the sources to their Enterprise
Server, but didn't provide any of the Makefiles or configure scripts to
create them. Of course there is
Holger Berger wrote:
On 5/2/06, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
For example
Teamware needs ws(1) and wx(1) utility software to be useful for ON
development on a large scale but you can cope without them.
Also I'm sure I heard somewhere else that there was a pretty darn large
John Plocher wrote:
It sounds like there have been several strong -1's voiced about this
proposal, which should (according to the proposed governance rules)
derail this change.
If there still is a strong desire for such behavior, then I propose
extending the per-user mailman preferences to
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Darren Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(General discussions of cross-compilation is suitable for either of
opensolaris-code or tools-discuss; potential platforms probably should
start talking here; there are communities and projects associated with
installation
Stephen Hahn wrote:
Over in website-discuss, we've reached consensus that, for the site
lists as a whole, the various [foo-discuss] tags should not be
prepended to subject lines by default.
You're kidding, right? This has really helped me, at least,
deal with all of the opensolaris
Stephen Hahn wrote:
* Darren Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-01 16:15]:
Stephen Hahn wrote:
Over in website-discuss, we've reached consensus that, for the site
lists as a whole, the various [foo-discuss] tags should not be
prepended to subject lines by default.
You're kidding
Bill Sommerfeld wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:39, Roland Mainz wrote:
The tagging is enabled by default in the mailman configuation
intentionally. Think about it: If it is so bad - why did the mailman
people turn it on by default then ?
if it's so good, why do many lists I'm
Eric Boutilier wrote:
Bill Rushmore wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006, Darren Reed wrote:
What about organising an article or story on slashdot.org for every
SX release or two or three?
Are you volunteering Darren? :-) But seriously I wouldn't mind
helping out on this.
I do think
Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
Wouldn't it be cool if the OS behind your car's electronics was
Solaris
That would be terrible. I'd rather prefer that the software in my car
was simple enough for its correctness to be formally provable. As well
as testable with 100% coverage through a
Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
Using a general purpose OS to drive things like the display you use
for GPS based navigation or entertainment makes good sense.
So what advantage does Solaris offer then? Does it have good
multimedia capabilities? Does it reduce costs and time to market for
GPS
What about organising an article or story on slashdot.org for every SX
release or two or three?
Moazam Raja wrote:
Here are some more Solaris/OpenSolaris blogs,
http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/blog/index.php
http://richteer.blogspot.com/
-Moazam
On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Moazam Raja
Stephen Hahn wrote:
* Darren Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-28 16:03]:
Hi,
To bring together the various groups of people who are interested in
talking about Solaris for embedded use, I'd like to propose creating a
new discussion forum, embedded-discuss.
The purpose of this forum would
Hi,
To bring together the various groups of people who are interested in
talking about Solaris for embedded use, I'd like to propose creating a
new discussion forum, embedded-discuss.
The purpose of this forum would be to discuss issues related to creating
an embedded system using Solaris (or
Stephen Hahn wrote:
* Darren Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-28 16:03]:
Hi,
To bring together the various groups of people who are interested in
talking about Solaris for embedded use, I'd like to propose creating a
new discussion forum, embedded-discuss.
The purpose of this forum would
Nilotpal Bhattacharyya wrote:
How do i mask uname -r value for some third party software install
which checks for Solaris OS version and fails to install.
Write a small .c file that intercepts uname(2) calls and replaces
the release field with 5.10 and use LD_PRELOAD to cause it
to be
Calum Benson wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006, at 21:24, Darren Reed wrote:
Chandan B.N. wrote:
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:51 -0800, Darren Reed wrote:
The ultimate goal of this would be to draw half a dozen clocks in
a row
with city titles above them, like you see on many walls today
JDS
Chandan B.N. wrote:
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:51 -0800, Darren Reed wrote:
The ultimate goal of this would be to draw half a dozen clocks in a row
with city titles above them, like you see on many walls today
JDS clock applet already does this, in the preferences
you can select
Last year, being located in Beijing, I found it important to be aware
of what the time was not just locally but in almost half a dozen different
time zones as the people I was dealing during the week with were quite
well spread out.
This problem resulted in me hacking together a small digital
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