[osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Why? Sounds like something people might want to be aware of the reasons for, insofar as they affect either the user or developer experience. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris

[osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-13 Thread Peter Tribble
> why would CDE users demand migration projects when they can > just keep using CDE? What sort of migration might we be talking about? Docs? Training? Transfer of settings? It isn't clear to me that you would want to simply migrate from CDE to GNOME. They're sufficiently different that starting o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Bart Smaalders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speed in user interfaces is all about perception. We all want gnome-terminal as fast as possible. Of course, if we made it really fast you won't be able to see any information flying by at all, anyway :-). Well, except that in the GNOME case they made something fast w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>Speed in user interfaces is all about perception. We all want >gnome-terminal as fast as possible. Of course, if we made >it really fast you won't be able to see any information flying by >at all, anyway :-). Well, except that in the GNOME case they made something fast which wasn't useful rath

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Bart Smaalders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the same performance stunt we used for cmdtool in 1991 or so. Dtterm does the same thing. What's wrong w/ this? - the human brain can actually process much of the information flying by so having it all fly by is preferred This is difficult

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>This is the same performance stunt we used for cmdtool in 1991 or so. >Dtterm does the same thing. What's wrong w/ this? - the human brain can actually process much of the information flying by so having it all fly by is preferred - by pretending to be fast, all reas

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Bart Smaalders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little confused as to what behaviour people want with PageUp/PageDown in gnome-terminal. I'm running snv_42. If I run vim inside a gnome-terminal then PageUp/PageDown moves me through the document as I'd expect and want. If I'm at the shell prompt then I need

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here. But configurable, like it is in Xterm, is fine. How come that something like gnome-terminals grows all eye-candy and does away with all the useful features? Welcome to GNOME where config is considered bad :-) My pet peeve missing feature could actually be

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>Scrolling around in gnome-terminal itself without having >to press shift. I want the terminal to get PgUp, PgDn, >Home, and End. I don't have any applications running inside >a terminal window that I would ever want to send those >events to, and it's twice the effort (at least) to have >to press

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Moinak Ghosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little confused as to what behaviour people want with PageUp/PageDown in gnome-terminal. I'm running snv_42. If I run vim inside a gnome-terminal then PageUp/PageDown moves me through the document as I'd expect and want. If I'm at the shell prompt then I need

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 09:29, Darren J Moffat wrote: > I'm a little confused as to what behaviour people want with > PageUp/PageDown in gnome-terminal. > > I'm running snv_42. > > If I run vim inside a gnome-terminal then PageUp/PageDown moves me > through the document as I'd expect and want. >

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>I'm a little confused as to what behaviour people want with >PageUp/PageDown in gnome-terminal. > >I'm running snv_42. > >If I run vim inside a gnome-terminal then PageUp/PageDown moves me >through the document as I'd expect and want. > >If I'm at the shell prompt then I need to press Shift Pag

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
I'm a little confused as to what behaviour people want with PageUp/PageDown in gnome-terminal. I'm running snv_42. If I run vim inside a gnome-terminal then PageUp/PageDown moves me through the document as I'd expect and want. If I'm at the shell prompt then I need to press Shift PageUp to m

[osol-discuss] Re: Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-12 Thread Shawn Walker
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 11:32:52PM +0100, Peter > Tribble wrote: > > > > Indeed, that's precisely why they were chosen > (ditto all the other > > > Shifted shortcuts in gnome-terminal). In fact, > in JDS we changed it > > > back for a while, but that patch seems to > regressed (or removed, I do