[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-09 Thread Magnus Forsberg
I can package pretty much anything complying with Sun / SVR4 in under 30 minutes now (time to compile excluded, since that has to be done regardless of the packaging system). But you have created your own tools to do it and so have I. I have my custom scripts, prototypes, pkgmk, pkgtrans,

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-05 Thread UNIX admin
You got the point, there are too many Unix PMS. Variation is not diversity. Variation increase the cost of any engineering task. Oversight: there are so many UNIX software management systems out there because not only do those account for the packages on the system, they account for

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-05 Thread TJ Yang
This post from me contains English grammtical and typing errors.I trust the reader will be able to understand my point. I will be more careful and diligent to produce English sentences next time. tj This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-04 Thread Magnus Forsberg
I've been playing with OpenPKG for a while. What I don't like about it: - RPMs are of no use if you want to customize the build (all rpms install in /openpkg/*) - It lives in a self-contained area I'm sure this is necessary in multi-OS environment because everyone have their own directory

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-04 Thread Magnus Forsberg
: Eric Boutilier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 3 augusti 2005 20:44 Till: Magnus Forsberg Kopia: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Ämne: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Magnus Forsberg wrote: [ ... ] I see

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-04 Thread Hernán Saltiel
Hi. The best package management system I saw in a *nix like system: apt tools. It solves the dependency problems, installs or deinstalls taking care of libraries, etc. Greetings. HeCSa. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-04 Thread Shawn Walker
On 8/4/05, Magnus Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been playing with OpenPKG for a while. What I don't like about it: - RPMs are of no use if you want to customize the build (all rpms install in /openpkg/*) That's wrong. You have acess to the .src.rpm for customisations, and if you

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-04 Thread Robert W. Fuller
The reason I abandoned Debian and went to Gentoo was because I couldn't have all the applications I wanted installed at the same time due to conflicting library requirements. At least Gentoo has slots which handles these sorts of things. I think the best package management system does not exist

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-03 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Magnus Forsberg wrote: [ ... ] I see there is already a disussion about this in: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=953tstart=0 The most interesting part is to have a standard build system, not just a package system... I agree -- mostly because there

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
Hi all, At the moment I'm looking for a Sun-way of building Solaris packages (Like SUNW), with a proper build environment, but unfortunately there are too many ways. I already have my own customized environment, Sun-way is SVR4 pkgadd PMS, period. I don't work for Sun and I like to be

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-02 Thread UNIX admin
Sunfreeware is just plain BUSTED because Steve Christensen doesn't really understand how to package software, to be more precise, he does not understand how to engineer software packages. Sun clearly states in their Application Packaging Developer's Guide how packages should be designed and