Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-16 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ian Collins wrote: Just don't use it for any serious performance measurements! :s/serious// -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Dennis, Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:38:40 PM, you wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: ... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram.

Re: Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-16 Thread James Dickens
On 1/16/07, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:14:31 PM, you wrote: JD On 1/15/07, Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom

Re[4]: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello James, Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 2:53:55 AM, you wrote: JD On 1/16/07, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:14:31 PM, you wrote: JD On 1/15/07, Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years

Re[5]: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Robert, Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 3:07:47 AM, you wrote: RM Hello James, RM Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 2:53:55 AM, you wrote: JD On 1/16/07, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:14:31 PM, you wrote: JD On 1/15/07, Martin Bochnig

Re: Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-16 Thread Casper . Dik
Please. UFS basically does the same - uses most of free memory as a cache. It's just the way page cache is divided and accounted for so you can actually see UFS cached pages reported as free (not all of them but you get the idea). The big difference here is that when UFS was fixed so the pages

[osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread mindfuq
I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open Solaris. Solaris 10 with ZFS requires 512MB RAM, so that won't work. Most of the

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread James C. McPherson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open Solaris. Solaris 10 with ZFS requires 512MB RAM, so

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread David Lloyd
Hi, Most of the Open Solaris distros are only for x86 architectures, though I could not check all of them because those projects are not forthcoming about system requirements. The ones that do mention system requirements make no mention of additional ZFS requirements. They all use the

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open Solaris. Solaris 10 with ZFS requires 512MB RAM, so that won't work. Most of

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread James C. McPherson
Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. The OP's question had been, whether or not Solaris 10

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. Minimum Req. != Recommended Req.

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread James Dickens
On 1/15/07, Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram.

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread James C. McPherson
Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. The OP's question had been,

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread James C. McPherson
Dennis Clarke wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: ... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. let's be more honest and say 4GB of RAM and dual 64-bit procs No,

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread James Dickens
On 1/15/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement.

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
David Lloyd wrote: They all use the OpenSolaris kernel (of x86 or Sparc variety) so I'd expect that they all have a requirement of = 512MB RAM. DSL This assumtion is wrong, because x86 uses GRUB, sparc does not. There has been an earlier discussion. -MB

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/15/07, Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dennis Clarke wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: ... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. let's be more honest and say 4GB of RAM and dual 64-bit procs No,

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Justin Gombos
* Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-15 15:56]: Sol1[0-1] sparc _will_ work with only 128MB of physical mem. And I can't see a reason, why ZFS should have a problem with it (provided, your hdd's swap slice is big enough). Install it on your U10. Since everyone agrees that the

Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory

2007-01-15 Thread Ian Collins
Justin Gombos wrote: * Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-15 15:56]: Sol1[0-1] sparc _will_ work with only 128MB of physical mem. And I can't see a reason, why ZFS should have a problem with it (provided, your hdd's swap slice is big enough). Install it on your U10. Since