Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-10 Thread Guido Berhoerster
Shawn Walker wrote: I'm just going to have to disagree in general. Maintaining software is expensive, especially lots of software. Your belief seems to be that Sun should support the cost of the distribution by themselves, that if the community doesn't provide it, Sun has to, and that you

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-10 Thread Shawn Walker
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Guido Berhoerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: I'm just going to have to disagree in general. Maintaining software is expensive, especially lots of software. Your belief seems to be that Sun should support the cost of the distribution by

[osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Simon Breden
What's the situation regarding SXCE and the new 2008.05 and future releases? My understanding from what I've seen is that SXCE is a release made approximately every 2 weeks, and is based on the Nevada project. Again, my understanding of the 2008.05 release is that: 1. this will be released only

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Simon Breden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the situation regarding SXCE and the new 2008.05 and future releases? My understanding from what I've seen is that SXCE is a release made approximately every 2 weeks, and is based on the Nevada project. Again, my

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Guido Berhoerster
Shawn Walker wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Simon Breden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding from what I've seen is that SXCE is a release made approximately every 2 weeks, and is based on the Nevada project. Again, my understanding of the 2008.05 release is that: 1. this will

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Guido Berhoerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Simon Breden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding from what I've seen is that SXCE is a release made approximately every 2 weeks, and is based on the Nevada

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Guido Berhoerster
Shawn Walker wrote: *If* that is what Sun chooses to do, it would essentially be the same thing RedHat does with Fedora, and I think it would be quite fair. I suspect we'll find out more on May 13th. That would be a major disappointment to me, as I had hoped more from a community effort.

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Guido Berhoerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: *If* that is what Sun chooses to do, it would essentially be the same thing RedHat does with Fedora, and I think it would be quite fair. I suspect we'll find out more on May 13th. That would be

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Guido Berhoerster
Shawn Walker wrote: No, CentOS only exists because RedHat was extremely restrictive about any usage of their trademark. The CentOS folks weren't even allowed to reference the fact that their packages came from RedHat Enterprise Linux. The other difference is that, thanks to ips, it is

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Guido Berhoerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: No, CentOS only exists because RedHat was extremely restrictive about any usage of their trademark. The CentOS folks weren't even allowed to reference the fact that their packages came from RedHat

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Guido Berhoerster
Shawn Walker wrote: As such, should there be no security fixes only repository provided by Sun, community members can certainly provide one and users can simply add that to their configuration. That was all I meant. Debian and Fedora both rely upon community members to supply most of their

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE versus 2008.05 etc

2008-05-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Guido Berhoerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said Sun has to provide it, but that Sun will apparently provide it only to paying customers is disappointing for me and seems inconsequent given the fact that they are trying to attract Linux developers (who