Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-07 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Thus, if you share /opt/csw between boot environments, you're sharing only the installed bits and not the packaging control information. Any changes in packaging you make (such as when running pkg-get -u) will _not_ be reflected to the other boot environments. -- James Carlson, Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-06 Thread Tim Scanlon
It's reasonable to expect problems in one release that aren't there in the next one, I've been using unstable builds as my primary desktop for a very long time without much trouble. Usually what I do is use another local machine as a stable platform use 'screen' to that, or restrict certain

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-06 Thread James Carlson
W. Wayne Liauh writes: Ideally a serious Solaris-wannabe should have at least three Solaris slices: A stable release (Solaris 10, updated), a less unstable release (SXDE, or an SXCE build that you have felt comfortable with), and a supposedly unstable release (most recent SXCE build). All

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:34 -0600, Mark J. Nelson wrote: I've actually received a reply back from the engineer resolving the problem, it seems that a performance tweak introduced in B72 has caused a problem with the detection of some cd/dvd drives. Hopefully B72 will either be

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Thats kind of stupid to release it knowing full well there is a royal cockup in the distribution which will cause issues. Matthew Ideally a serious Solaris-wannabe should have at least three Solaris slices: A stable release (Solaris 10, updated), a less unstable release (SXDE, or an SXCE

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-05 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 20:11 -0700, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Thats kind of stupid to release it knowing full well there is a royal cockup in the distribution which will cause issues. Matthew Ideally a serious Solaris-wannabe should have at least three Solaris slices: A stable release

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread Ché Kristo
How many platforms have you tested this on? Just yours or others as well? Has anyone else experienced this issue? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 01:19 -0700, Ché Kristo wrote: How many platforms have you tested this on? Just yours or others as well? Has anyone else experienced this issue? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread Mark J. Nelson
I've actually received a reply back from the engineer resolving the problem, it seems that a performance tweak introduced in B72 has caused a problem with the detection of some cd/dvd drives. Hopefully B72 will either be respun or it will appear in B73. The concept of a major release

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:34 -0600, Mark J. Nelson wrote: I've actually received a reply back from the engineer resolving the problem, it seems that a performance tweak introduced in B72 has caused a problem with the detection of some cd/dvd drives. Hopefully B72 will either be respun or

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread Stephen Lau
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:34 -0600, Mark J. Nelson wrote: I've actually received a reply back from the engineer resolving the problem, it seems that a performance tweak introduced in B72 has caused a problem with the detection of some cd/dvd drives. Hopefully B72 will

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread MC
Thats kind of stupid to release it knowing full well there is a royal cockup in the distribution which will cause issues. Every development build has problems though, it is just part of development. Developers don't care if a past development build had problems, because they're already onto

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn Walker
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:34 -0600, Mark J. Nelson wrote: I've actually received a reply back from the engineer resolving the problem, it seems that a performance tweak introduced in B72 has caused a problem with the detection of some cd/dvd drives. Hopefully B72 will either be

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-02 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
Hi, Hopefully B72 won't be released soon, there is a major bug I came accross when using it (ONNV from dlc.sun.com) - my cd/dvd drive suddenly disappears; I've lodged a bug report, but I hope Sun doesn't release it knowing full well there is a major show stopper. Kaiwai

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread Mario Goebbels
Would the double testing impair the quality of build 72? I'd figure that b70 is going to get priority, as it's the base of the next SXDE. I've targetted b72 for a system upgrade, but if there'll be QA issues, I'd skip to 73. You probably know this, but just to get the terminology straight:

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread James Carlson
MC writes: You probably know this, but just to get the terminology straight: Testing doesn't impair (change) the quality, it just tells you about the quality :) b72 will be the same thing whether they test it or not. True. It's not just testing that goes on, but evaluation of the test

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread Brandorr
On 8/30/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose it'd be possible to toss likely-broken bits out there faster, as soon as the first untested WOS is built, but I'm not sure who we'd be helping if we did that. Possibly yourselves. (If you ever want to move the smoke testing role

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread Casper . Dik
On 8/30/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose it'd be possible to toss likely-broken bits out there faster, as soon as the first untested WOS is built, but I'm not sure who we'd be helping if we did that. Possibly yourselves. (If you ever want to move the smoke testing role

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread Daniel Atencio
One thing I really wish for in the next build is that they fix the issue with the Ekiga messenger,where it hangs upon setup at the detect network type screen.I have an iBot firewire camera that's supposed to work in OpenSolaris Sparc but I'll have no way of knowing until this issue is fixed. On

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread Gary Gendel
One thing I really wish for in the next build is that they fix the issue with the Ekiga messenger,where it hangs upon setup at the detect network type screen.I have an iBot firewire camera that's supposed to work in OpenSolaris Sparc but I'll have no way of knowing until this issue is fixed.

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-30 Thread Daniel Atencio
Thanks Gary,I will try this as soon as I can. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread William Pursell
I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? William -- ___ _,,-.._ ___ `-.`.-' William Pursell `-,',-'

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? I'm still waiting on b70b dc ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread William Pursell
On 8/29/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? I'm still waiting on b70b What's the holdup? William

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Sarah Jelinek
William Pursell wrote: On 8/29/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? I'm still waiting on

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
William Pursell wrote: On 8/29/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? I'm still waiting on b70b

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread James Carlson
William Pursell writes: I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? Yes. The schedule is here:

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Sean Sprague
Dennis, I'm in no rush ... snv_70 seems to work wonderfully well .. with a few glitches here and there .. but geez. What do people want? Perfection? Yes. Today and right away and for *free* also? Then users complain about it. People bitch more in general about stuff that is free. If

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
William Pursell wrote: I don't know if this is the proper forum to address this question, but I am under the impression that B72 (the ksh93 project was integrated in B72, right?) should be here any day now? The dock for build 72 closed Monday - that's the deadline for all the built packages to

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Mario Goebbels
However, the build 70b respin is also happening this week, so they're building testing two builds at once, and Monday is a holiday in the US, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a few days later than usual this time. Would the double testing impair the quality of build 72? I'd figure that

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread MC
Under normal schedules they would be testing the generated images now to make sure they install, and release those images internally to Sun later today and start the approximately week long process to get them posted as SXCE for public download next week. That is an interesting amount of

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-08-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
MC wrote: Under normal schedules they would be testing the generated images now to make sure they install, and release those images internally to Sun later today and start the approximately week long process to get them posted as SXCE for public download next week. That is an interesting