Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Jim Walker
On 30/07/07, Korey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that users alone will not make Open Solaris into a great product, but they are the final judge of its success. The Open Solaris community must remember who will use their software when the development is done: the user. Is

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Ian Collins
Dick Davies wrote: On 30/07/07, Korey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that users alone will not make Open Solaris into a great product, but they are the final judge of its success. The Open Solaris community must remember who will use their software when the development is

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Jim Walker wrote: On 30/07/07, Korey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that users alone will not make Open Solaris into a great product, but they are the final judge of its success. The Open Solaris community must remember who will use their software when the development is done:

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread S h i v
On 7/31/07, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Walker wrote: There is no reason why a good OS can't be used everywhere. I use Solaris on my desktop everyday. I think 40% is too small. We should shoot for 100% of the desktop market. Now there's some thinking I can get behind! :)

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 11:29 -0700, Artem Kachitchkine wrote: Solaris is uniquely situated to make this dream a reality. With the support of Sun Microsystems, resources Solaris is not very well positioned in the UI competition. Sun, it appears, has consciously chosen not to actively

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 11:52 -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote: To Ian Murdoch and the Open Solaris Community, As a long-time follower of the open source community, I stumbled across this forum a week ago and was intrigued by the activity taking place on Open Solaris. I spent some time

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 12:11 -0700, Edward McAuley wrote: Uh, let's see. Beautiful interface (as attractive as the Mac or Vista), intuitively laid out, ease of use, UNIX (like), open source...it's already here. You can download it or buy it. Suse 10.2 Please look at this latest

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 12:49 -0700, andrewk9 wrote: I agree entirely with this post. My thoughts: 1. We in the community should not be expecting Sun to be addressing all of the shortcomings in OpenSolaris. The community needs to be involved in a meaningful way in improving it. A first step to

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
- Finish the port from Xsun to Xorg Xserver, including on Sparc. - Virtual Terminals support which is in the works - Complete the SunAudio to OSS migration. - Make further progress with Project Indiana (e.g. provide the sorts of tools that Linux users expect like autoconf, automake,

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:46 -0700, John Martinez wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:49 PM, andrewk9 wrote: I agree entirely with this post. My thoughts: 1. We in the community should not be expecting Sun to be addressing all of the shortcomings in OpenSolaris. The community needs to be

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread John Martinez
On Jul 30, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:46 -0700, John Martinez wrote: I think a lot of people keep missing the point that Solaris' bread and butter is the enterprise server market. I don't know what the ratio of server to desktop installations is, but

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Brian Gupta
One could argue that not only does Solaris need more users, but its quality rather than quantity. If the vast majority of the 40% are penny pinching, proprietary software hating, thick-rim-glasses wearing, hunch back coding geeks - it certainly won't attract vendors such as Adobe or MYOB who

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 23:43 -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: One could argue that not only does Solaris need more users, but its quality rather than quantity. If the vast majority of the 40% are penny pinching, proprietary software hating, thick-rim-glasses

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 20:29 -0700, John Martinez wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:46 -0700, John Martinez wrote: I think a lot of people keep missing the point that Solaris' bread and butter is the enterprise server market. I don't know

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Korey Peters
I enjoy Solaris, Always have. Do I want it to become another Windows? NO. Leave the point and clickers behind. We in the Open source community need to be able to give all people the choice and flexibility to be independent. To have the freedom to develop the next evolutionary step in

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Korey Peters
I think the 40% was a rectum pluck rather than it being a fixed number on which OpenSolaris should aim. I mean, if you look at Mac, their marketshare is below 10% and yet has a bigger selection of software than Solaris. One could argue that not only does Solaris need more users, but

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-30 Thread Korey Peters
All I want is all the coding geeks running Solaris on their laptops/desktops. (Especially University coding geeks... That is where people generally develop their OS preferences). Remember people deploy what they are familiar with. Also, they tend to deploy to the OS they develop with. (But

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