Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-09 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 03:49:19AM +0200, houghi wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 03:18:14AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: grep sudo makeSUSEdvd mount does the following. It mounts each iso file to a specific directory. Each iso and each directory will be different from user to user and even

Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-09 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 8 May 2006 at 22:37, houghi wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:08:46PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: That needed line for 'makeSUSEdvd' is the default during the installation and configuration phase of a system; but once in production, those two lines are normally removed - meaning that

Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-09 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 9 May 2006 at 14:16, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: [...] Option 3: actually fix the kernel. Perhaps in 2016 ;) [...] So the current kernel still does read-ahead past the end of the device? I had reported that for SuSE 9.0 I think, and the blabla was that I would be using an uncertified

Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:14:21AM +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote: Running it as root is the purpose of sudo, but not knowing the root password. Consider a configuration skeletton (from HP-UX): # User alias specification User_Alias MEDIA_OPERATOR = %dba, windl # Cmnd alias

Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-09 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 9 May 2006 at 8:31, houghi wrote: OK. How are you going to change the file if you don't have the root password? Also I did not think that HP-UX was Linux. made my scripts to The same way as you would install Linux on the machine. That is why would you make a DVD if you cannot install it?

Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:41:03AM +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote: On 9 May 2006 at 8:31, houghi wrote: OK. How are you going to change the file if you don't have the root password? Also I did not think that HP-UX was Linux. made my scripts to The same way as you would install Linux on the

Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-09 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
So the current kernel still does read-ahead past the end of the device? I had reported that for SuSE 9.0 I think, and the blabla was that I would be using an uncertified DVD/CD-RW drive. While I don't want to argue about kernel developer's knowledge, this does sound like buck-passing to

Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-09 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 9 May 2006 at 20:22, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: It's probably difficult to fix because the kernel block I/O layer doesn't know anything about isofs (and mustn't - could be reiserfs on the CD), and the whole CD technology doesn't supply the information of what the last recorded block is, or

Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:23:44PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: OK. How are you going to change the file if you don't have the root password? Also I did not think that HP-UX was Linux. made my scripts to work on Linux. If it works on something else, great. If not, pity. The configuration

Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-09 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
So if I dd if=/dev/cdrom, will the kernel stop accessing the device when the first read error appears? Sometimes. And some other times, it will keep on reading, on each block producing huge timeouts and hangs. And sometimes, it will read the last block fine (cat /dev/dvdrom), but of course

Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo, makeSUSEdvd, and iso images

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:26:02AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: I hereby declare this script to be public domain (because I sure don't want to maintain it :-). Do what you will with it. I have, well, looked at it. I can't understand perl, so there are one or two questions. It does have some

Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-09-06 19:10]: Dunno, it might not work reliably for CDs. I don't think SCSI was made for CDs, so what happens if you demand info which isn't there? From the firmware of a couldn't-care-less commodity item? True, SCSI was not made for CDs, but the first

Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 is Done

2006-05-09 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Tuesday, 09 May 2006 11:19 samaye, houghi alekhiit: What version would you like then? Why does it say for RC1 this is 0.29? Surely RC3 was the release with which 0.28 did not work and 0.29 works? -- Tux #395953 resides at http://samvit.org playing with KDE 3.52 on SUSE Linux 10.0 $ date []

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Martin Mewes
Hi Pascal, Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Mewes wrote: Speaking for the developer of Webmin/Usermin (Jamie Cameron) directly I really would like to see Webmin/Usermin getting back into the distribution, but again it's too complex. I tried to package Webmin once, that was quite

Re: [opensuse] Problems with sound on OpenSuSE 10.0

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 11:18:10PM -0700, Low Kian Seong wrote: Dear Carl and all, Two questions : One remark. Please do not toppost. 1. Correct me if I am wrong, isn't packman for non supported and unstable packages ? This is for my office's desktop machines, so stability is a must. The

[opensuse] Bug with makeSUSEdvd 0.29

2006-05-09 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Please look through the attached errors and tell me how to overcome it. I used: CD_DIR=$HERE/CD_DIR Thanks. -- Tux #395953 resides at http://samvit.org playing with KDE 3.52 on SUSE Linux 10.0 $ date [] CCE +2006-05-09 W19-2 UTC+0530 linux:/home/samjnaa/dload/suse-linux-10.1-rc3 # ls .

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Adrian Schröter
Hi Martin, Am Tuesday 09 May 2006 08:33 schrieb Martin Mewes: I think that if a packager wants to build packages for openSUSE a interactive build tool (IBT) should come up with something like this (more specific to read on opensuse-packaging soon): You heard about the openSUSE Build Service ?

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 08 May 2006 18:52 schrieb Alexey Eremenko: Other than spending a lot of time beta-testing these last few months I've also been working on a beginner's guide to SUSE Linux. In it I try to encourage users to take part in the openSUSE community as I certainly enjoy being part of it.

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 08 May 2006 18:19 schrieb houghi: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:08:49PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: snip Just a few thoughts, off the top of my head: - packagers: we need more packagers, don't forget that the whole thing is happening around a distribution, made of packages This

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 08 May 2006 13:08 schrieb Pascal Bleser: ... Most notably, the staff dedicated to openSUSE at Novell is too small in numbers. This has some implications, as we cannot tell Novell what to do with its money (no jdd, we can't): I think the main problem here is that the distribution gets

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
Adrian Schröter wrote: Am Monday 08 May 2006 13:08 schrieb Pascal Bleser: ... Most notably, the staff dedicated to openSUSE at Novell is too small in numbers. This has some implications, as we cannot tell Novell what to do with its money (no jdd, we can't): I think the main problem here is

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
Pascal Bleser wrote: ...a lot of things, one of them being stupid: [...] 10.1 is going to be released in 2 days and I have no idea how to sign my repositories to avoid big warnings showing up in end users' YaST2 when they add my repo. I guess I'd be able to do so by spending half a day with

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:27:25AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: Pascal Bleser wrote: ...a lot of things, one of them being stupid: [...] 10.1 is going to be released in 2 days and I have no idea how to sign my repositories to avoid big warnings showing up in end users' YaST2 when they

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:27:25AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: Pascal Bleser wrote: ...a lot of things, one of them being stupid: [...] 10.1 is going to be released in 2 days and I have no idea how to sign my repositories to avoid big warnings showing up in end users'

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Amr Hamdy
Helle, all, I'm really very busy nowadays but I think I should say something here... There are really many good ideas in that topic ... but how can a newbie or opensuse beginner start help? He need tutorials, very simple documents and interactive help to learn about the things he may help with?

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:18:00AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: Would be awesome, yet we'll have to see whether the build service will be mature enough when 10.2 will start to get built, to avoid having a issues caused by the build service. What I udnerstood is that the build service would be

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
houghi wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:18:00AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: Would be awesome, yet we'll have to see whether the build service will be mature enough when 10.2 will start to get built, to avoid having a issues caused by the build service. What I understood is that the build

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Martin Mewes
Hi Adrian, Adrian Schröter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Tuesday 09 May 2006 08:33 schrieb Martin Mewes: I think that if a packager wants to build packages for openSUSE a interactive build tool (IBT) should come up with something like this (more specific to read on opensuse-packaging soon): You

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 12:11:14PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: I disagree. People who have a login at Novell/openSUSE should get an email adress as an extra. Sure, @users.opensuse.org as Adrian suggested. I disagree. That is just ugly. At this moment there is nobody, except suse.de, who

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread jdd
Adrian Schröter wrote: Hi Martin, Am Tuesday 09 May 2006 08:33 schrieb Martin Mewes: I think that if a packager wants to build packages for openSUSE a interactive build tool (IBT) should come up with something like this (more specific to read on opensuse-packaging soon): You heard about

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 02:53:06PM +0200, jdd wrote: Adrian Schröter wrote: Hi Martin, Am Tuesday 09 May 2006 08:33 schrieb Martin Mewes: I think that if a packager wants to build packages for openSUSE a interactive build tool (IBT) should come up with something like this (more

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread jdd
Adrian Schröter wrote: Other, minor ideas, such as having @opensuse.org email addresses, to show we're part of the community (this has been mentioned once on the list, but hasn't been discussed further). While I agree that there should become more people an @opensuse.org email address, I

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread jdd
Marcus Meissner wrote: http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service sorry, but this one is nearly unusable. looks like a man page :-((()). please give us _one_ example. If you want, give me some access and I will try to describe this from a semi-external point of view jdd -- http://www.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Per Jessen
houghi wrote: I don't see the opensuse.org email adress as anything official. I see it as a gift. I have a gmail adress, but when I send mail with that adress, I hardly speak for gmail.com. Because gmail.com offers free email to anyone who wants it. opensuse.org doesn't. Anyone with a

Re: [opensuse] Re: We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Per Jessen
Craig Millar wrote: To be fair, although this list is described as opensuse General discussion about the openSUSE (development) project on the wiki, it's has a slightly misleadingly moniker and has so from the outset. I've always thought it should be more implicitly named, e.g. opensuse-devel

Re: [opensuse] Re: We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Per Jessen wrote: Craig Millar wrote: To be fair, although this list is described as opensuse General discussion about the openSUSE (development) project on the wiki, it's has a slightly misleadingly moniker and has so from the outset. I've always thought it should be more implicitly named,

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 01:36:47PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: BTW, do I sound arrogant or harsh to you ? Yes you do. It is uncalled for. And because of the arrogance I see no reason to reply to anything you said. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist

Re: [opensuse] Re: We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread jdd
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: I changed the template a bit (in the hope of making it clearer). and make all the lists available from the same screen (lists... one of the problem with suse-e is the great number of OT. the number of posts is very annoying for anybody that have not a high

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas
Am Dienstag, den 09.05.2006, 13:36 +0200 schrieb Pascal Bleser: [snipped lot of stuff about deserving an email address] I can't believe you guys are arguing about who should get what kind of email-address. How about we have Novell create a new mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a nice

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Crouse
I have a hard time finding things on the wiki, perhaps it's just because I don't use them much, but I have not had much luck with them personally. I find forums much easier to search. I did start up a forum for opensuse, www.opensuse.us . I emailed novell's legal division and recieved

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread jdd
Andreas wrote: Guess what? I couldn't care less about another email-address or not. I don't care neither, but if some people do... What I care about is that I virtually can't find any information on opensuse.org that goes beyond how to download the latest release. I agree with you that

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Hertweck
jdd wrote: [...] First, I don't really like the Leadership word. I don't see me as a leader (for the fr wiki I'm sysop of), that is my opinion is only important if it's the only one :-) - else I try to follow the majority will. second, sysop needs at least some admin rights (to be able

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Andreas wrote: [...] Another thing: I find a page, see that it has already been translated and move on to another page. The next day I happen to visit that same page again, it looks the same, only the link to the translated page is suddenly gone. What kind crap is that? No matter if a wiki

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Hertweck
houghi wrote: [...] I disagree. People who have a login at Novell/openSUSE should get an email adress as an extra. At this moment there is nobody, exept suse.de, who can speak for openSUSE.org I disagree with that. I have an opinion which I can express whether I have an opensuse.org email

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas
Am Dienstag, den 09.05.2006, 13:30 -0500 schrieb Dave Crouse: I did start up a forum for opensuse, www.opensuse.us . it's in my bookmarks :) Don't get me wrong, I think that the wiki admins do a great job of keeping track of things, but on a personal note, I hate it when something i write

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas
Am Dienstag, den 09.05.2006, 20:54 +0200 schrieb jdd: [snip] but don't forget opensuse is very young :-) And I have no doubt that it's gonna get better :) -- Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

[opensuse] Looking for a certain Sebastien D.

2006-05-09 Thread Sonja Krause-Harder
Hi, as some of you may remember, we gave out vouchers for a physical 10.1 box at FOSDEM 2006 in Brussels. I'm preparing the shipment of these boxes, and I have a voucher with an address which I can only partially read: last name starting with D Sebastien rue de whatever 196 7020 Mons Belgium

[opensuse] Speed Issues with 9.3 vs 10.0 on x86_64 arch? Or What?

2006-05-09 Thread Shaun Q
Hey everyone -- First of all, I apologize if this is an inappropriate forum for this... but perhaps someone has an idea... So, we installed a new cluster here with some Athlon 64 machines... and we're finding that these new machines are quite a bit slower than our old AMD64 test machine...

Re: [opensuse] Speed Issues with 9.3 vs 10.0 on x86_64 arch? Or What?

2006-05-09 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 02:16:55PM -0700, Shaun Q wrote: Hey everyone -- First of all, I apologize if this is an inappropriate forum for this... but perhaps someone has an idea... The better list is suse-linux-e. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es

Re: [opensuse] Speed Issues with 9.3 vs 10.0 on x86_64 arch? Or What?

2006-05-09 Thread Shaun Q
On Tue, 9 May 2006, houghi wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 02:16:55PM -0700, Shaun Q wrote: Hey everyone -- First of all, I apologize if this is an inappropriate forum for this... but perhaps someone has an idea... The better list is suse-linux-e. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas wrote: Am Dienstag, den 09.05.2006, 13:36 +0200 schrieb Pascal Bleser: [snipped lot of stuff about deserving an email address] I can't believe you guys are arguing about who should get what kind of email-address. How about we have Novell

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas
Am Dienstag, den 09.05.2006, 19:53 +0100 schrieb Thomas Hertweck: Well, it's a wiki, isn't it? That's one of the things I didn't understand right away. It's not that long ago that I visited opensuse.org the first time, and I did *not* know that it was a wiki, I assumed it was a corporate

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 houghi wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:08:01AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: snip How about giving your opinion about the really good points in the original posting ? Maybe it's still possible to not dismiss the whole thread just because of that.

Re: [opensuse] We, the community

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas
Am Mittwoch, den 10.05.2006, 00:08 +0200 schrieb Pascal Bleser: The point wasn't so much about the email address or not, it was more about a structure, process, whatever to try to get discussions into a somewhat more effective path. Up to now many threads get somehow diluted into sticking on

[opensuse] Growing a Community (Was We, the Community)

2006-05-09 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had written a community page with many of the same point that started this long thread. I did not post it because I wanted a more pro-active way to acknowledge, we are a community of many different interests and motivations. For me the greatest

[opensuse] Help with iFolder

2006-05-09 Thread Chuck Payne
Hey guys I know this isn't the site, but I need to know where I can get help, I have installed iFolder Server and now ever domain I am host that has a dir called admin comes up as the iFolder Login. When I try to log in with the defualt password I am get and error 500. I need help one to see if

Re: [opensuse-packaging] y2pmbuild

2006-05-09 Thread Ludwig Nussel
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 10:29, Martin Wilderoth wrote: I'm using the y2pmbuild tool to create a package. I'm compiling on an x86_64. Can i create i386 packages on the same plattform (64-bit) with the same tool ? linux32 y2pmbuild ... cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ SUSE LINUX

Re: [opensuse-wiki] MediaWiki: update 1.6 About

2006-05-09 Thread Tora Toraman
Hi Adrian, Thank you wery much, -- Tora Toraman Manager/Admin SuSE Linux OS Turkıye www.suse-tr.com www.linuxcareer.net 09.05.2006 tarihinde Adrian Schröter [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış: Am Monday 08 May 2006 23:33 schrieb Tora Toraman: Hello, MediaWiki: When will you update to version

[opensuse-wiki] RCS for wiki?

2006-05-09 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 think this would help to recover a wiki page should there be a breakin or diliber damage. I know that some websites are under RCS. It makes it easier to return a page to a previous version should the un-think-able happen? - -- Boyd Gerber [EMAIL

Re: [opensuse-doc] merging community Novell docs tutorials

2006-05-09 Thread Rajko M
jdd wrote: snip only Yast is really SUSE generic, apart from a great amount of little config details :-) snip Hi Jean, YaST is most prominent SUSE specific, but there is a lot of differences. Try to use generic Xorg X11 server with generic options. Hunting errors you'll see how different