Re: [opensuse] More 10.2 nightmares

* Billie Erin Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-06-07 10:08]: > Actually, when I added it to my install list I DID NOT get any warning > message. Had to learn the hard way. Now I'm a tiny bit smarter. Life > is a learning experience. Every time I blow up SuSE I learn a little > something. Then, just p

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Magnus Boman wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 12:07 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote: > >> kanenas skrev: >> >>> On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote: >>> >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including >>> Factory repository that is pre-alpha,

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kanenas wrote: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote: > >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including > >> Factory repository that is pre-alpha, >> > > I only glanced at a few posts on this thread, but, has anyone mentioned that > the word "factory" does n

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On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 12:07 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote: > kanenas skrev: > > On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote: > > >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including > >> Factory repository that is pre-alpha, > > > > I only glanced at a few posts on this thread,

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kanenas skrev: On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote: >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including Factory repository that is pre-alpha, I only glanced at a few posts on this thread, but, has anyone mentioned that the word "factory" does not carry any notions

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On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote: >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including > Factory repository that is pre-alpha, I only glanced at a few posts on this thread, but, has anyone mentioned that the word "factory" does not carry any notions of extreme alpha

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On 02/12/2007 Marcus Meissner wrote: > Adding the Factory Repo gives this BETA Disclaimer Warning Screen: > > >openSUSE FACTORY 10.3-factory > >Attention! You are accessing our BETA Distribution. If you install >any package, note that we can NOT GIVE ANY SUPPORT for your system > - >

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Dominique Leuenberger wrote: That would cause many conflicts which in fact are none. Just one example: VLC. The repo is found at http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/10.2 (ok: I see, but YaST could be smarter: download.opensuse.org have a list of all the mirrors. Then, I don't mind to fo

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>>> jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/13/07 7:03 PM >>> >Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: > > That would assume there is a detection that the repos are in fact the >same. > >given they are said to be mirrors, this could be acheived :-) - >usually the folder name is the same (SUSE/10.2/, for example - the >oth

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Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: That would assume there is a detection that the repos are in fact the same. given they are said to be mirrors, this could be acheived :-) - usually the folder name is the same (SUSE/10.2/, for example - the other part varies) I don't think this is realistic - thi

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Dňa Ut 13. Február 2007 17:22 jdd napísal: > Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: > > Dňa Po 12. Február 2007 09:37 jdd napísal: > >> Rajko M. wrote: > >>> the rest of the thread make clear that inexperience played a role in > >>> the problems. > >> > >> there is lessons on all the problems. may be YaST shou

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Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: Dňa Po 12. Február 2007 09:37 jdd napísal: Rajko M. wrote: the rest of the thread make clear that inexperience played a role in the problems. there is lessons on all the problems. may be YaST should better look at the installed repositories to avoid duplicates and in

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Dňa Po 12. Február 2007 09:37 jdd napísal: > Rajko M. wrote: > > the rest of the thread make clear that inexperience played a role in the > > problems. > > there is lessons on all the problems. may be YaST should better look > at the installed repositories to avoid duplicates and inconsistency > (o

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Randall R Schulz wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 13:24, Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 12:09, jdd wrote: Bryan Tyson wrote: usable and effective I mean it does not require the user to wait 60 minutes every time one wishes to add a package. I never waited

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Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 12:09, jdd wrote: Bryan Tyson wrote: usable and effective I mean it does not require the user to wait 60 minutes every time one wishes to add a package. I never waited 60 minutes to install a package (the last one came even quite instantly to my grea

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On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 16:39 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did you have a question as > to why Suse 10.2 isn't running on your system? I know why it is not running on my system: because I blew it away and put Mandriva on that system instead. My question was why the package system was appall

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On Monday 12 February 2007 21:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon February 12 2007 5:33 pm, Tom Horsley scratched these words onto > > a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:20:21 -0500 > > > > Bryan Tyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I used Suse from 6.0 through 9.

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On Mon February 12 2007 5:33 pm, Tom Horsley scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:20:21 -0500 > > Bryan Tyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I used Suse from 6.0 through 9.2. I used to call Suse "the Cadillac > > of Linux distros." For all thos

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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-12-07 16:47]: > So what do you have to offer this list for this distro then? As they > always tell me, if you don't like what you see, create your own. > Perhaps you have some sort of good ideas about how to create a system > that doesn't take forever to

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:20:21 -0500 Bryan Tyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used Suse from 6.0 through 9.2. I used to call Suse "the Cadillac of > Linux distros." For all those years, package management was great. What > happened? I've always had a suspicion that the folks responsible for the d

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On Monday 12 February 2007 13:24, Kai Ponte wrote: > On Monday 12 February 2007 12:09, jdd wrote: > > Bryan Tyson wrote: > > > usable and effective I mean it does not require the user to wait > > > 60 minutes every time one wishes to add a package. > > > > I never waited 60 minutes to install a pac

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On Monday 12 February 2007 15:38, J Sloan wrote: > They both have macbooks. I'm > much happier seeing them on OSX than windoze. Absolutely... and since MacOSX is essentially FreeBSD under-the-covers. ... and there is plenty of open-software for OSX... and because its *nix it runs

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On Mon February 12 2007 2:20 pm, Bryan Tyson scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:33 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: > > BTW, giving opinion about openSUSE as Mandriva user is IMHO > > somewhat displaced > > on this list. > > Mandriva, Mepis, Kubuntu,

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On Sun February 11 2007 7:16 pm, Bryan S. Tyson scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 11:32, Tom Horsley wrote: > > My experience with 10.2 has been just as full of update problems, > > and I haven't even done anything remotely weird with pa

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun February 11 2007 10:27 pm, J Sloan scratched these words onto a > coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > >> I tried to raise my kids right, and today all the guys in this house >> run linux, and all the girls use macs, so it's an all-unix house, and >> virus fr

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On Sun February 11 2007 10:27 pm, J Sloan scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > John Pierce wrote: > > On 2/11/07, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why not just change change line 18 of /etc/sysconfig/videobios to > >> read: > >> > >> VIDEOBIOS_PARAMETERS="5c 1

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On Monday 12 February 2007 12:09, jdd wrote: > Bryan Tyson wrote: > > usable and effective I mean it does not require the user to wait 60 > > minutes every time one wishes to add a package. > > I never waited 60 minutes to install a package (the last one came even > quite instantly to my great surp

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Bryan Tyson wrote: usable and effective I mean it does not require the user to wait 60 minutes every time one wishes to add a package. I never waited 60 minutes to install a package (the last one came even quite instantly to my great surprise :-). It's long, a little longer than Mandriva, b

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On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:33 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: > BTW, giving opinion about openSUSE as Mandriva user is IMHO somewhat > displaced > on this list. Mandriva, Mepis, Kubuntu, and Fedora, to name a few that I am personally using right now, have a usable, effective package management system. By

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On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:37:39AM +0100, jdd wrote: > Rajko M. wrote: > > >the rest of the thread make clear that inexperience played a role in the > >problems. > > there is lessons on all the problems. may be YaST should better look > at the installed repositories to avoid duplicates and inco

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Rajko M. wrote: the rest of the thread make clear that inexperience played a role in the problems. there is lessons on all the problems. may be YaST should better look at the installed repositories to avoid duplicates and inconsistency (or at least give strong warnings). jdd -- http://ww

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On Sunday 11 February 2007 21:43, John Pierce wrote: ... > I don't think ms needs to be out of business, but if they lose enough > business maybe they will mend their ways and start making quality > software. I know you will probably say I am dreaming and I probably > am. You are not dreaming. L

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On 2/11/07, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Pierce wrote: > On 2/11/07, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why not just change change line 18 of /etc/sysconfig/videobios to read: >> >> VIDEOBIOS_PARAMETERS="5c 1440 900" >> >> Joe >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>

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On Sunday 11 February 2007 18:16, Bryan S. Tyson wrote: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 11:32, Tom Horsley wrote: > > My experience with 10.2 has been just as full of update problems, and I > > haven't even done anything remotely weird with packman repos or anything. > > All I did was install from the

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John Pierce wrote: > On 2/11/07, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why not just change change line 18 of /etc/sysconfig/videobios to read: >> >> VIDEOBIOS_PARAMETERS="5c 1440 900" >> >> Joe >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT

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On 2/11/07, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Pierce wrote: >> >> I too have a problem with frequencies on SIS card and 1440x900 >> monitor. What >> was your problem? >> > Turns out I needed to put the following command into /etc/init.d/boot.local > > 915resolution 5c 1440 900 32 > > Howe

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On Sunday 11 February 2007 11:32, Tom Horsley wrote: > My experience with 10.2 has been just as full of update problems, and I > haven't even done anything remotely weird with packman repos or anything. > All I did was install from the DVD iso, pick most optional packages to > install, then occasio

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John Pierce wrote: >> >> I too have a problem with frequencies on SIS card and 1440x900 >> monitor. What >> was your problem? >> > Turns out I needed to put the following command into /etc/init.d/boot.local > > 915resolution 5c 1440 900 32 > > However, this is to correct a problem with the inte

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I too have a problem with frequencies on SIS card and 1440x900 monitor. What was your problem? Turns out I needed to put the following command into /etc/init.d/boot.local 915resolution 5c 1440 900 32 However, this is to correct a problem with the intel 945 chipset, I do not know if it would h

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On Sunday 11 February 2007 14:59, Tom Horsley wrote: ... > Next time I have 10.2 booted, I'll try making all the repos point > to the same mirror and see if that helps, but one of the things > I wanted to do with 10.2 was observe its default behavior "out of > the box" using the defaults it sets up

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John Pierce kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika sunnuntai, 11. helmikuuta 2007 23:59): > I had a minor problem getting the intel > 945 to drive the monitor at 1440x900 default. I too have a problem with frequencies on SIS card and 1440x900 monitor. What was your problem? -Teemu -- To unsubscribe

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On 2/11/07, jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: > I wanted to do with 10.2 was observe its default behavior "out of > the box" using the defaults it sets up - from that standpoint > it is definitely a nightmare (even if it is fixable with a big > enough hammer :-). I have opensuse

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Tom Horsley wrote: I wanted to do with 10.2 was observe its default behavior "out of the box" using the defaults it sets up - from that standpoint it is definitely a nightmare (even if it is fixable with a big enough hammer :-). but you didn't use the default install.. jdd -- http://www.dodi

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Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:06:14 +0100 jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: did you first install the default distro, update it and then go on? or select all in yast and go on? During the install, I clicked on a lot of things that weren't automatically selected to be installed, mainl

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:18:55 -0600 "Rajko M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apropos the error, I think that you should use YOU (YaST Online Update) > first, > that will update z-related packages, and than the rest. Than you should not > see the error. Actually, I did try to update in yast inst

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:06:14 +0100 jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > did you first install the default distro, update it and then go on? or > select all in yast and go on? During the install, I clicked on a lot of things that weren't automatically selected to be installed, mainly because I wanted

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On Sunday 11 February 2007 10:32, Tom Horsley wrote: > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/ > http://ftp.ale.org/pub/suse/update/10.2 > ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/ Tom, can you setup both repositories for oss and non-oss to be picked up

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On 02/11/2007 jdd wrote: > What I want to say is that a great many people use 10.2 already, on > many kind of hardware and are perfectly happy with it. So when you > have a problem, the point is not thinking "10.2 is broken", but "what > the heck have my install that makes me crazy" and, beleive

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Tom Horsley wrote: > My experience with 10.2 has been just as full of update problems, and I > haven't even done anything remotely weird with packman repos or anything. > All I did was install from the DVD iso, pick most optional packages to > install, then occasionally try to run updates. > > For

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Tom Horsley wrote: My experience with 10.2 has been just as full of update problems, and I haven't even done anything remotely weird with packman repos or anything. All I did was install from the DVD iso, pick most optional packages to install, then occasionally try to run updates. I have no mo

[opensuse] More 10.2 nightmares

My experience with 10.2 has been just as full of update problems, and I haven't even done anything remotely weird with packman repos or anything. All I did was install from the DVD iso, pick most optional packages to install, then occasionally try to run updates. For the first several weeks, I got