opened a feature-request:
Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
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Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> opened a feature-request:
>
> Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
>
Distribution is already too big, and if you want all packages, buy the
boxed set. otherwise this will only be a non-sense waste of
On 4/12/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> opened a feature-request:
>
> Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
>
Distribution is already too big, and if you want all packages, buy th
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 18:26, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> > opened a feature-request:
> >
> > Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3:
> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
>
> Distribution is already too big, and if you want all packa
Hi Randall Schulz !
I'm happy, that at least one man around is supporting me !
Can you respond on the bugzilla feature-request to the bad-guys ? please. link:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
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On Thursday 12 April 2007 09:26, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Distribution is already too big, and if you want all packages, buy the
> boxed set. otherwise this will only be a non-sense waste of resources.
Debian disagrees. Download Debian 4.0 now, all three DVD-sized ISO images.
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On Wednesday 11 April 2007 19:56, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Hi Randall Schulz !
>
> I'm happy, that at least one man around is supporting me !
>
> Can you respond on the bugzilla feature-request to the bad-guys ?
> please. link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
I also think it is
Can you respond on the bugzilla feature-request to the bad-guys ?
please. link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606
I add this on bugzilla:
I think this debate is not well done. What users want is to have
openSUSE as dvd's on they desk, not on the servers.
Make a _bootable_ dv
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> I'm happy, that at least one man around is supporting me !
I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of hand
from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE packages
on a nice (modular) DVD ISO set is something very useful...
Th.
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Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I'm happy, that at least one man around is supporting me !
I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of hand
from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE packages
on a nice (modular) DVD ISO set is
I disagree, the current size fits much use cases already, and not even
the boxed set has all the rpms. A fraction of the people need this.
They could make the dvd fitted to their needs with programs like kiwi,
jigdo.
On 4/12/07, Jan Karjalainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thomas Hertweck wrote:
>
Druid wrote:
I disagree, the current size fits much use cases already, and not even
the boxed set has all the rpms. A fraction of the people need this.
They could make the dvd fitted to their needs with programs like kiwi,
jigdo.
Except this is the case if you don't have internet access. Pretty
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:36 +0200, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
> Druid wrote:
> > I disagree, the current size fits much use cases already, and not even
> > the boxed set has all the rpms. A fraction of the people need this.
> > They could make the dvd fitted to their needs with programs like kiwi,
> >
Jonathan Arsenault wrote:
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:36 +0200, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
Druid wrote:
I disagree, the current size fits much use cases already, and not even
the boxed set has all the rpms. A fraction of the people need this.
They could make the dvd fitted to their needs with
* Thomas Hertweck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-07 16:18]:
[...]
> I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of
> hand from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE
> packages on a nice (modular) DVD ISO set is something very useful...
me 2:^0
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On Thursday 12 April 2007 15:45, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
> Is it hard to understand that not everyone (hey, the
> ones who aren't on this list for instance) does have internet access,
> and if they have, it often is dialup.
I agree. There really needs to be a DVD repos... I would take
adva
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 16:46 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Thomas Hertweck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-07 16:18]:
> [...]
> > I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of
> > hand from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE
> > packages on a nice (modu
Jonathan Arsenault wrote:
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 16:46 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Thomas Hertweck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-07 16:18]:
[...]
I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of
hand from my point of view, so having at least all the official SuSE
pa
Jonathan Arsenault wrote:
56K or not if you can manage to sync a 3.8GB iso file you can do the
same with a RPMs directory.
as I said, the problem is to identify rpm<->dvd number to make burnig
dvd easy. after that I could copy them to friends...
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jdd wrote:
Jonathan Arsenault wrote:
56K or not if you can manage to sync a 3.8GB iso file you can do the
same with a RPMs directory.
as I said, the problem is to identify rpm<->dvd number to make burnig
dvd easy. after that I could copy them to friends...
jdd
Jonathan Arsenault is also mi
>
For open source advocate, you are quite conservative.
If there's an idea that might help someone, why not let it happen?
If one is about to download 2 DVDs in dial up he is screwed anyway,
wouldnt matter if he rsyncs rpms, downloads an ISO, 2 ISOs or etc
Use kiwi or jigdo, pack a repo locally
Druid wrote:
>
For open source advocate, you are quite conservative.
If there's an idea that might help someone, why not let it happen?
If one is about to download 2 DVDs in dial up he is screwed anyway,
wouldnt matter if he rsyncs rpms, downloads an ISO, 2 ISOs or etc
Use kiwi or jigdo, pack
Oh, who said someone was going to download 2 DVDs via dialup?
The solution of having the ftp tree on DVDs is for the people on dialup
or no internet access at all.
It is doable, if you don't know or have the energy to think out how then
let someone else worry about it.
If you dont know the impli
Druid wrote:
Oh, who said someone was going to download 2 DVDs via dialup?
The solution of having the ftp tree on DVDs is for the people on dialup
or no internet access at all.
It is doable, if you don't know or have the energy to think out how then
let someone else worry about it.
If you dont
>
> "Its doable", "I think there is no problem" means "I have no idea what
> this would cause, but I really dont care"
Intelligence..?
Show some by replying correctly in the thread
You stated that you clearly pointed out something.
Let's see:
"You say you are solving a problem when in fact you
If Some people don't need two DVDs, don't interfere those who need !
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Speaking of bandwidth, I see one thing that can be safely removed: CDs
for x64 architecture.
All 64-bit systems are equipped with DVDs, so 64-bit CD is a real waste.
Anybody has heard of existence of 64-bit PC with CD-ROM ?
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On 4/12/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If Some people don't need two DVDs, don't interfere those who need !
Stop creating problems to other people, like a child that cant even go
to the bathroom alone
The minimum you should is to know what is the situation in the topic
you try
On 4/13/07, Druid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/12/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If Some people don't need two DVDs, don't interfere those who need !
Stop creating problems to other people, like a child that cant even go
to the bathroom alone
The minimum you should is to kn
Of course I know, even better than you are.
yeah? Can you prove?
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yeah? Can you prove?
No, but plenty of people still waiting for the 2 DVDs, instead of 1 currently.
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On 4/12/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yeah? Can you prove?
>
No, but plenty of people still waiting for the 2 DVDs, instead of 1 currently.
Go amke one them, so people wont have to wait so much? Quick, quick,
people are waiting.
Dont you need one for the current release? O
> Speaking of bandwidth, I see one thing that can be safely removed: CDs
> for x64 architecture.
> All 64-bit systems are equipped with DVDs, so 64-bit CD is a real waste.
> Anybody has heard of existence of 64-bit PC with CD-ROM ?
Maybe not PCs, but there are 64-bit servers that don't have DVD dr
On 4/13/07, Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of bandwidth, I see one thing that can be safely removed: CDs
> for x64 architecture.
> All 64-bit systems are equipped with DVDs, so 64-bit CD is a real waste.
> Anybody has heard of existence of 64-bit PC with CD-ROM ?
Maybe
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 20:50, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> I used to buy each release as a means of supporting the SuSE development
> team and process. That no longer seems to be an aspect of the vendor's
> business model, so why bother? The only cash expenditure they make
> worthwhile is a suppor
Adam Tauno Williams escribió:
>
> Maybe not PCs, but there are 64-bit servers that don't have DVD drives.
>
of course they dont , that's because the sysadmin should not be **that**
silly and will install the OS via the network instead of using this
non-sense proposal of having yet another DVD,
On Friday 13 April 2007 01:08, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> The proponents of this idea clearly dont have a clue what having yet
> another DVD in the official media means. this is not your home network,
> it is the second most popular linux distro out there, is not that easy
> to scale at this pr
On Thu 12 April 07 15:19, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
> Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> > Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> >> I'm happy, that at least one man around is supporting me !
> >
> > I support this as well. All this repository stuff is getting out of hand
> > from my point of view, so having at least all the
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> On 4/13/07, Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Speaking of bandwidth, I see one thing that can be safely removed: CDs
>> > for x64 architecture.
>> > All 64-bit systems are equipped with DVDs, so 64-bit CD is a real
>> waste.
>> > Anybody has heard of exist
Oh please. Enough already with the lame excuses... there is nothing
wrong
with proposing an idea... in the States we call that brainstorming and its
helped us come up with some pretty snazzy Yankee know-how... you know... it
can't be done kind of stuff... don't ever tell me that your sca
Druid wrote:
>> Oh please. Enough already with the lame excuses... there is
>> nothing wrong
>> with proposing an idea... in the States we call that brainstorming
>> and its
>
> Just because you need it doesnt mean everybody need it. If Opensuse
> was about to solve all use cases, we would
M Harris wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007 01:08, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
>
>> The proponents of this idea clearly dont have a clue what having yet
>> another DVD in the official media means. this is not your home network,
>> it is the second most popular linux distro out there, is not that
and again:
If we make the 2 DVDs modular the current user's needs will still be
addressed, plus adding needs of many new users around. That is, the
first DVD will contain all the needed things to get you up & running.
speaking of penalties:
The mirrors live up with Debian with their 240+ CDs, so
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> and again:
> If we make the 2 DVDs modular the current user's needs will still be
> addressed, plus adding needs of many new users around. That is, the
> first DVD will contain all the needed things to get you up & running.
>
> speaking of penalties:
> The mirrors live up w
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 06:14 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> M Harris wrote:
> >
> In all honesty I have been deleting most of this thread without reading.
>
> One thing that needs to be done is to start taking up a collection to
> help openSuSE buy some modern servers so they can through away
Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> and again:
> If we make the 2 DVDs modular
Ok let's see.. Modular how ? in what way ?
the current user's needs will still be
> addressed,
The current user needs are already addressed, that's the reaosn why we
have a single DVD and CDs.
> first DVD will contain
Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 06:14 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>> In all honesty I have been deleting most of this thread without reading.
>>
>> One thing that needs to be done is to start taking up a collection to
>> help openSuSE buy some modern servers so they can th
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:20, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> ...
>
> And just what the heck are "delta iso's"? Don't even have a clue what
> your talking about!
Perhaps the term "difference ISO" would be more suggestive? They're a
file that tells the program "applydeltaiso" how to modify an existing
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007 15:20, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> And just what the heck are "delta iso's"? Don't even have a clue what
>> your talking about!
>>
>
> Perhaps the term "difference ISO" would be more suggestive? They're a
> file that tells the p
The main update servers agreeably are under a lot of stress, however
they are running a T3 Pipe for comms.
The excuse they all give up the updates or download's Disk I/O's are
pounding the servers to death.
The issue is the amount of HDD I/O access I am told is the issue - this
could easily be fix
Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> O
> Then why not download the delta iso's instead and save yourself a lot of
> time.
>
>
May I suggest that if we get to the point of needing two DVDs, maybe we
should be looking for, and I don't want to say "bloatware", but unneeded
packages that would be better serve
On Friday 13 April 2007 06:14, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> "IF" there were two DVD's, and actually I do like the idea of having two
> DVD's, I'm not so sure I would want to dedicate two or three days to
> downloading them. It's bad enough having to pray that nothing goes wrong
> for the twenty-some
On Friday 13 April 2007 06:43, G.T.Smith wrote:
> Published CDs are a different issue (and I believe these include more
> anyway).
The published material is shorter than FTP repository.
Retail 6 CD < DVD < FTP
The original idea was actually to have delivered the rest of FTP repository on
additio
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 17:47 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Friday 13 April 2007 15:20, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> >
> >> ...
> >>
> >> And just what the heck are "delta iso's"? Don't even have a clue what
> >> your talking about!
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps the te
On Thursday 12 April 2007 16:04, Jonathan Arsenault wrote:
> Why not simply reverting back to having ONLY FTP and no iso at all,
> maybe that would shut you guys up a bit ...
>
> But N lets pull a Debian and publish 300 iso to the point we
> loose half of the mirrors we have ...
>
> 56K or not
Carlos F Lange wrote:
Is it so difficult to understand that we want to *purchase* the 2 DVDs
in a boxed set and *not* download any full package at all?
frankly, at start it was :-) - i didn't understand that.
but I second your ask. And we could as well remove the CD in this
offer. If you can
On Friday 13 April 2007, Carlos F Lange wrote:
> Is it so difficult to understand that we want to *purchase* the 2 DVDs
> in a boxed set and *not* download any full package at all? The only
> download required would be the delta security patches.
> This is what is being suggested here, that the box
On Saturday 14 April 2007 02:11, jdd wrote:
> Carlos F Lange wrote:
> > Is it so difficult to understand that we want to *purchase* the 2 DVDs
> > in a boxed set and *not* download any full package at all?
>
> frankly, at start it was :-) - i didn't understand that.
>
> but I second your ask. And w
Carlos F Lange wrote:
>
> Is it so difficult to understand that we want to *purchase* the 2 DVDs
> in a boxed set and *not* download any full package at all? The only
> download required would be the delta security patches.
> This is what is being suggested here, that the boxed set goes back to
On Saturday 14 April 2007 07:07, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Carlos F Lange wrote:
> > Is it so difficult to understand that we want to *purchase* the 2 DVDs
> > in a boxed set and *not* download any full package at all? The only
> > download required would be the delta security patches.
> > This is
Billy,
we want to have 2 DVDs in future, now it is as you described.
Hope you are not including Opensuse in this "we", because for exampel
the dvd that with src.rpms stopped being included to save space and
costs, and I remember people complaining about that. Which I kinda
unnderstand, you wo
On Saturday 14 April 2007, Druid wrote:
> Hope you are not including Opensuse in this "we", because for exampel
> the dvd that with src.rpms stopped being included to save space and
> costs, and I remember people complaining about that. Which I kinda
> unnderstand,
Yes, since that is a technical v
Yes, since that is a technical violation of the GPL.
Its not a violation, because it contains a link to the place where you
can get the source rpms. This was discussed before. Dont make
affirmatives you cant prove. You might as well take a read in the GPL
text, so you can fully understand it, w
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