NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-20 Thread Linda Walsh
Randall R Schulz wrote: In particular, you can get notification of an error (e.g., "disk full") on the reply to a request much later than that of the request which actually encountered the error. Software with complex ordering and error sensitive behavior can be seriously undermined by asynchro

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-21 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Thursday 20 December 2007 21:23, Linda Walsh wrote: > Randall R Schulz wrote: > > In particular, you can get notification of an error (e.g., "disk > > full") on the reply to a request much later than that of the > > request which actually encountered the error. Software with complex > > ordering

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-21 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: > > NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? > > Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login > anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've > got a coffee. It just works. Just like NT server before someone

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-21 Thread primm
> > NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? > Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've got a coffee. It just works. Just like NT server before someone downloded a virus. Sherry anyone? Love Lynn x -

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-22 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've got a coffee. It just works. Just like NT server

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-22 Thread primm
On Friday 21 December 2007 20:28:04 Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: > > > NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? > > > > Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login > > anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-12-23 at 08:10 +0100, primm wrote: I setup an nfs server to export /home to 5 other clients. The same server handles nis logins. No eggageration, it took me 1/2 hour most of which was reading man exports until I discovered that Ya

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Jeff Graham
You can get close with samba and cifs, but like Carlos says it's more work. There is also afs. On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:47:44PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The Sunday 2007-12-23 at 08:10 +0100, primm wrote: > > >I setup an nfs server

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 23 December 2007 08:10:47 primm wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2007 20:28:04 Randall R Schulz wrote: > > On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: > > > > NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? > > > > > > Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login > > > any

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Aaron Kulkis
primm wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 20:28:04 Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they'v

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 12:58 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: > On Sunday 23 December 2007 08:10:47 primm wrote: > > On Friday 21 December 2007 20:28:04 Randall R Schulz wrote: > > > On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: > > > > > NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? > > > > > > > > U

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: > If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan > for vpn, and put nfs-v3 over it. We have been using it in a test for > connecting several locations. Works ok. huh? You're connecting each client to the server using v

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread James Knott
Anders Johansson wrote: > On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: > >> If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan >> for vpn, and put nfs-v3 over it. We have been using it in a test for >> connecting several locations. Works ok. >> > > huh? You're

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 23:10 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: > On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: > > If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan > > for vpn, and put nfs-v3 over it. We have been using it in a test for > > connecting several locations.

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 23 December 2007 23:22:58 James Knott wrote: > Anders Johansson wrote: > > On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: > >> If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan > >> for vpn, and put nfs-v3 over it. We have been using it in a test for > >> con

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-23 Thread primm
> > nfs4 + kerberos gives authentication and encryption and requires very > > little in the way of configuration. No offense, but VPN on a local LAN is > > just silly > > Well, at my work they're rather paranoid. > For some, we have to tunnel internet through the corporate network, > For others, w

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
primm wrote: nfs4 + kerberos gives authentication and encryption and requires very little in the way of configuration. No offense, but VPN on a local LAN is just silly Well, at my work they're rather paranoid. For some, we have to tunnel internet through the corporate network, For others, we tun

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-27 Thread Anders Johansson
On Monday 24 December 2007 02:40:58 Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Hans Witvliet wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 23:10 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: > >> On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: > >>> If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan > >>> for vpn, and

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Hans Witvliet wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 23:10 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan for vpn, and put nfs-v3 over it. We have been using it in a test for connecting several

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 24 December 2007 02:40:58 Aaron Kulkis wrote: Hans Witvliet wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 23:10 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sunday 23 December 2007 22:43:24 Hans Witvliet wrote: If you are not in control of your network, use openswan or strongswan for vp