Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory source for Internet installation

2006-10-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
Rajko, On Monday 16 October 2006 22:11, Rajko M wrote: On Monday 16 October 2006 20:11, Randall R Schulz wrote: Felix, On Monday 16 October 2006 17:13, Felix Miata wrote: ... Note that you need not download even the mini iso if your installation target already has a working

[opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread jdd
until the last zen update, my 10.1 installation send this message at starting time: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in 0x003d6 Novell.Zenworks.Gui.ZenTrayIcon:CheckUpdatesLoop () in (wrapper delegate-invoke)

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread andreas . hanke
Hi, until the last zen update, my 10.1 installation send this message at starting time: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in 0x003d6 Novell.Zenworks.Gui.ZenTrayIcon:CheckUpdatesLoop () in (wrapper delegate-invoke)

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread jdd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi, until the last zen update, my 10.1 installation send this message at starting time: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in 0x003d6 Novell.Zenworks.Gui.ZenTrayIcon:CheckUpdatesLoop () in (wrapper

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: ?? I did not do anything to have this and it didn't show before Maybe you did not do anything, but the resolve-dependencies zypp helper did something: It segfaulted. This caused zmd.db to be left in an unusable state. Zen-Updater likes to show exactly this stack trace whenever that

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 17-10-2006 10:37:42 jdd schrieb: ?? I did not do anything to have this and it didn't show before Maybe you did not do anything, but the resolve-dependencies zypp helper did something: It segfaulted. This caused zmd.db to be left in an unusable state. Zen-Updater likes to show

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
Dominique Leuenberger schrieb: Calling a program, that gives a stack trace on an invalid Database, 'Works For Me' is a bit brave behaviour. In no way, a program is allowed to crash out if a corrupt database is found. At LEAST an exact explanation to the user how to solve it (maybe what you

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 17-10-2006 10:58:15 Dominique Leuenberger schrieb: That's exactly what rug does... Ok, that's good like this The issue is really specific to zen-updater. I could never make rug crash, not even by copying MP3 audio files on top of /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db. It just says "Corrupted

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
Dominique Leuenberger schrieb: About the hardened zen: do you know something about the libzypp 2.4.0 update for factury that should be synced? I'm still waiting for it! As my box at the moment can not use rug at all to remove or to install or to update packages (SIGSEGVing). But on no mirror I

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : jdd schrieb: ?? I did not do anything to have this and it didn't show before Maybe you did not do anything, but the resolve-dependencies zypp helper did something: It segfaulted. may be there was a problem with the last ipdate, the problem shows only until then

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: may be there was a problem with the last ipdate, the problem shows only until then The problem will disappear with libzypp 2.4.0. And come back next time something bad happens to your zmd.db for whatever reason. ;-) I add some words to inform anybody.

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : http://en.opensuse.org/Using_zen-updater#Small_bug_fix That's not a bugfix. please, correct the title to be more appropriate, I'm short of idea :-( So, thanks, I will direct people to that wiki page in the future. It makes life much easier because typing these

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: ?? I had understood that with 10.2 zen should fix the database itself? You're confusing stuff here. A software named zen does not exist. There is Zenworks, which consists of different programs: zmd, the daemon rug, a CLI interface for the daemon zen-updater, a GUI interface for

Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory source for Internet installation

2006-10-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/10/16 23:05 (GMT-0700) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: On Monday 16 October 2006 22:11, Rajko M wrote: Is this what you meant: http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD title #Installing_from_data_saved_on_your_local_machine That and #Grub, I guess. But I think I'm still

Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST new icons

2006-10-17 Thread Martin Schlander
I've backed up my 10.1 icons and will use the 10.1 theme on 10.2 for sure. Should one or two icons for new modules look out of place I'd prefer that over _all_ the icons being badly out of place. Martin - To unsubscribe,

Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST new icons

2006-10-17 Thread Rafa Grimán
El Lunes, 16 de Octubre de 2006 19:35, Per Jessen escribió: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone would have to create the icons in the first place. They don't create themselves. It seems that the previous icon theme is not complete any more because of new YaST modules being added over the

Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST new icons

2006-10-17 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Sonntag, 15. Oktober 2006 23:50 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Say it isn't true openSUSE becomes Gnome minded (at Novell-request I am 90% sure) as we all can see using KDE. Do you really think so? Are you using the current Alphas? Did you compare both environments there? Yes, I

Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST new icons

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: Each step Novell makes in the direction of Gnomifying the Suse desktop is (at least by the Suse-KDE-community) considered as going on killing KDE. Ah, I see. Developing new applications for KDE, submitting it to KDE SVN and contributing to KDE upstream development in

Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST new icons

2006-10-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've backed up my 10.1 icons and will use the 10.1 theme on 10.2 for sure. I'm looking into providing a yast2-theme-traditional with all those icons in it. Should one or two icons for new modules look out of place I'd prefer that over _all_ the

Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST new icons

2006-10-17 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2006 14:38 schrieb Andreas Hanke: Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: Each step Novell makes in the direction of Gnomifying the Suse desktop is (at least by the Suse-KDE-community) considered as going on killing KDE. Ah, I see. Developing new applications for KDE, submitting

Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?

2006-10-17 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : jdd schrieb: ?? I had understood that with 10.2 zen should fix the database itself? You're confusing stuff here. I like your presentation. With it I think I begin to understand the all thing (not completely sure, but it comes :-). So, after some searching on the

[opensuse-factory] Printing From Java Applications: No print service found.

2006-10-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hi, I am unable to print from Java applications. Both jEdit (programmer's editor) and oXygen/ (XML editor) report No print service found. when printing is attempted (this is true for both the Page Setup and Print commands). Eclipse does not enable its Print command. I have configured a remote

[opensuse-factory] YOU vs Zen Updater

2006-10-17 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
Maybe a little OT, but I think neccessary and useful to know for 10.2 as well. I just Configured Online Update with YaST and thereafter ran a larger YaST Online Update for 10.1. For some time the Zen Software Updater has showed 11 software updates (incl. Mozilla Firefox and Evolution). The

Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory source for Internet installation

2006-10-17 Thread Rajko M
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 06:50, Felix Miata wrote: On 06/10/16 23:05 (GMT-0700) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: On Monday 16 October 2006 22:11, Rajko M wrote: Is this what you meant: http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD title

Re: [opensuse-factory] YOU vs Zen Updater

2006-10-17 Thread Martin Schlander
Onsdag 18 oktober 2006 00:30 skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Now I wonder what is the real use difference between YOU and Zen Updater? The short version is that they're two different frontends to do the same thing. No need to get into the backend stuff. Is Zen meant to replace YOU? Nope, more

[opensuse-factory] Package mangement problems with zmd/rug/KDE updater applet

2006-10-17 Thread Alex
After the 10.1 package management disaster I quickly switched to smart. But as I'm now sick of all the other (quite ridiculous and seemingly never fixed) problems with smart (German 'umlauts' crash the program, the python gui is dysfunctional most of the time and so on), I yesterday wanted to