Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Joel Wampler
I don't have an earlier screenshot, but here's how mine look now:   http://www.iwamp.com/suse/10.2UglyFonts.pngIts like the auto hinter has gone haywire and is adding extra thickness to the lines of the fonts or something.  The lowercase u in the first firefox tab is a great example. I'm running at

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag, 27. Oktober 2006 10:16 schrieb Joel Wampler: > I don't have an earlier screenshot, but here's how mine look now: >http://www.iwamp.com/suse/10.2UglyFonts.png > > Its like the auto hinter has gone haywire and is adding extra thickness to > the lines of the fonts or something. The lo

Re: [opensuse-factory] How-To: Alpha5 -> Beta1 Upgrade

2006-10-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I've never done an upgrade installation before on any of my SuSE > installations. This time, because I installed Alpha5 on a brand new > machine that is not (yet) mission critical, I was thinking of trying an > upgrade. > > My question is:

Re: [opensuse-factory] How-To: Alpha5 -> Beta1 Upgrade

2006-10-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello again, > > On Thursday 26 October 2006 12:26, Randall R Schulz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've never done an upgrade installation before on any of my SuSE >> installations. This time, because I installed Alpha5 on a brand new >> machine that is not (ye

Re: [opensuse-factory] How-To: Alpha5 -> Beta1 Upgrade

2006-10-27 Thread Pavel Nemec
Dne Thursday 26 October 2006 23:29 Randall R Schulz napsal(a): > If I proceed with this, am I likely to have problems? I just did it, without any problems. You should now that updating from alpha or beta is unsupported and untested :) but it works. -- Pavel Nemec package-maintainer http://en.op

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread William Gallafent
On Friday 27 October 2006 06:30, Randall R Schulz wrote: > That's a 404 for me! -- Bill Gallafent. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Felix, > > On Thursday 26 October 2006 20:54, Felix Miata wrote: >> ... >> > >> > I second the font issue... Alpha 5 had beautiful font rendering, >> > unfortunately Beta 1 is really really bad... I even tried a brand >> > new account to see if wip

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
"Joel Wampler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > I don't have an earlier screenshot, but here's how mine look now: >http://www.iwamp.com/suse/10.2UglyFonts.png That screen shot is not directly comparable to the screen shot posted by Randall R Schulz. Randalls screen shot apparently uses sub-pix

[opensuse-factory] Thunderbird 1.5 in beta1?

2006-10-27 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
Didn't Alpha5 have Thunderbird 2.0RCsomething? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[opensuse-factory] md5sums for deltas

2006-10-27 Thread Kenneth Schneider
After applying the beta1 delta to the i386 DVD alpha5 I have a new md5sum but there is no md5sum on the website to verify that the process completed successfully. Is there someone that can add a file showing what the correct md5sum should be after running applydeltaiso on the i386 DVD? Ken Schneid

Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird 1.5 in beta1?

2006-10-27 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 03:21:54PM +0300, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: > Didn't Alpha5 have Thunderbird 2.0RCsomething? Since TB 2.0 final won't make the openSUSE 10.2 release date, it was downgraded to a known stable 1.5 version again. Ciao, Marcus ---

Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for deltas

2006-10-27 Thread Stephan Binner
On Friday, 27. October 2006 14:32, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > After applying the beta1 delta to the i386 DVD alpha5 I have a new > md5sum but there is no md5sum on the website to verify that the process > completed successfully. Is there someone that can add a file showing http://download.opensus

Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for deltas

2006-10-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After applying the beta1 delta to the i386 DVD alpha5 I have a new > md5sum but there is no md5sum on the website to verify that the process > completed successfully. Is there someone that can add a file showing > what the correct md5sum should be af

[opensuse-factory] beta1 first glance

2006-10-27 Thread jdd
Hello, I begin to install the new beta1 from cd. I have just now two remarks: * I appreciate the firmware test on the initial menu. is it possible to save the results in order to give it to bugzilla in case there is a bug? could it be possible to collect automatically all the tests on succeed

Re: [opensuse-factory] beta1 first glance

2006-10-27 Thread Stephan Binner
On Friday, 27. October 2006 15:07, jdd wrote: > I just note that for a kde install we need cd 1, 2, 3 and 5 > (seems not 4), so no need to download immediately the other It should only require CD 1-3. What packages were on CD 5!? rpm -qa --last | head Bye, Steve --

[opensuse-factory] Why "patterns" were born in openSUSE ? and UI idea.

2006-10-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko
hi all ! Sorry for the stupid question, but I really want to know the direction of this idea. Generally, I believe in order to make newbies feel "at home", so they could learn Linux easier. Advanced ppl don't really need patterns (but it saves time even to advanced ppl)... I have opened a discu

Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for deltas

2006-10-27 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 14:49 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > After applying the beta1 delta to the i386 DVD alpha5 I have a new > > md5sum but there is no md5sum on the website to verify that the process > > completed successfully. Is there someone

[opensuse-factory] libg2c.so

2006-10-27 Thread Joachim Reichelt
Hello, We have a SW-collection linked against /usr/lib/libg2c.so package compat-g77 Is it planned for 10.2? -- Joachim begin:vcard fn:Joachim Reichelt n:Reichelt;Joachim org:Helmholtz Center for Infection Research (HZI);Division of Structural Biology (SB) adr;quoted-printable;dom:;;Inhoffenstra=

Re: [opensuse-factory] beta1 first glance

2006-10-27 Thread Steffen Winterfeldt
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, jdd wrote: > I begin to install the new beta1 from cd. > > I have just now two remarks: > * I appreciate the firmware test on the initial menu. is it possible to save > the results in order to give it to bugzilla in case there is a bug? could it But you can. There is a 'save

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hi, On Thursday 26 October 2006 23:57, Felix Miata wrote: > On 06/10/26 22:30 (GMT-0700) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: > > > > Object not found! Sorry. Try now:

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Joel, On Friday 27 October 2006 01:16, Joel Wampler wrote: > I don't have an earlier screenshot, but here's how mine look now: >http://www.iwamp.com/suse/10.2UglyFonts.png > > Its like the auto hinter has gone haywire and is adding extra > thickness to the lines of the fonts or something. The

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Juan Erbes
2006/10/26, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, I went ahead and did an upgrade. It appeared to come off without incident. I'm not pleased that Firefox was switched out from under me when the themes and extensions are not yet ready. The new TabMix Plus gloms all my windows into a single,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Stephan, On Friday 27 October 2006 01:24, Stephan Kulow wrote: > ... > > Yes, we have a new freetype and its authors worked heavily on the > auto hinter. Your bug reports are welcome at bugzilla.novell.com Unless they can recover the previous release's quality before 10.2 final, I'm going to be

Re: [opensuse-factory] beta1 first glance

2006-10-27 Thread jdd
Steffen Winterfeldt a écrit : On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, jdd wrote: I begin to install the new beta1 from cd. I have just now two remarks: * I appreciate the firmware test on the initial menu. is it possible to save the results in order to give it to bugzilla in case there is a bug? could it But y

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag, 27. Oktober 2006 16:20 schrieb Randall R Schulz: > What motivated replacing what seemed to me to be a fine implementation? I bet you should subscribe to the freetype mailing list and make useful suggestions like this there? Make sure you read the arguments of those in bug#170067 first

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Stephan, On Friday 27 October 2006 07:27, Stephan Kulow wrote: > Am Freitag, 27. Oktober 2006 16:20 schrieb Randall R Schulz: > > What motivated replacing what seemed to me to be a fine > > implementation? > > I bet you should subscribe to the freetype mailing list and make > useful suggestions li

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Hi, > > On Thursday 26 October 2006 23:57, Felix Miata wrote: >> On 06/10/26 22:30 (GMT-0700) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: >> > >> >> Object not found! > > Sorry. Try now: > >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > If I can get the old behavior by tweaking /etc/fonts/suse-hinting.conf > and / or /etc/sysconfig/fonts-config, I will. If I can get the old > quality by recompiling FreeType, I will (I did just that to enable the > so-called "byte code interprete

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mike, On Friday 27 October 2006 09:03, Mike FABIAN wrote: > Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > > If I can get the old behavior by tweaking > > /etc/fonts/suse-hinting.conf and / or /etc/sysconfig/fonts-config, > > I will. If I can get the old quality by recompiling FreeType, I > > wi

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 27 October 2006 09:00, Mike FABIAN wrote: > ... > > > > > > > > > > (Note: The names changed, use these links.) > > I still get a 404 on the second URL. Sorry.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/10/26 22:30 (GMT-0700) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 20:54, Felix Miata wrote: >> On http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-face-index-full.html I >> don't see a significant difference. I'm running 1400x1050 ATM on >> factory, 1600x1200 normally on 10.0.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Felix, On Friday 27 October 2006 09:30, Felix Miata wrote: > ... > > > > > > > > > I picked Verdana for this test, though it does not show as stark a > > difference as so

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > On Friday 27 October 2006 09:00, Mike FABIAN wrote: >> ... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > (Note: The names changed, use these l

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Felix, > > On Friday 27 October 2006 09:30, Felix Miata wrote: >> ... >> >> > >> > >> > >> > I picked Verdana for this te

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Mike FABIAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > >> Felix, >> >> On Friday 27 October 2006 09:30, Felix Miata wrote: >>> ... >>> >>> > >>> >

Re: [opensuse-factory] beta1 first glance

2006-10-27 Thread jdd
Stephan Binner a écrit : On Friday, 27. October 2006 15:07, jdd wrote: I just note that for a kde install we need cd 1, 2, 3 and 5 (seems not 4), so no need to download immediately the other It should only require CD 1-3. What packages were on CD 5!? rpm -qa --last | head from yast screen:

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mike, On Friday 27 October 2006 09:53, Mike FABIAN wrote: > ... > > > > Most likely I will make rendering with the byte code interpreter > > the default for certain list of fonts where it obviously gives > > superior results. > > To test how it looks like using the byte code interpreter, > put the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mike, On Friday 27 October 2006 09:53, Mike FABIAN wrote: > ... > > > > [...] > > > >false > > > > > [...] > > When used in place of the elements that were in my ~/.fonts.conf that certainly yielded an improvement, but it's not yet as good as

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hi, On Friday 27 October 2006 07:53, Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 07:27, Stephan Kulow wrote: > > ... Make sure you read the > > arguments of those in bug#170067 first though. > > ... > > I've read bugs 170076 and 186109 (well, so far I've just skimmed > 186109--there's a lo

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Mike, > > On Friday 27 October 2006 09:53, Mike FABIAN wrote: >> ... >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> >> >>false >> >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> > > When used in place of the elements that were in my ~/.fonts.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Mike, > > On Friday 27 October 2006 09:53, Mike FABIAN wrote: >> ... >> > >> > Most likely I will make rendering with the byte code interpreter >> > the default for certain list of fonts where it obviously gives >> > superior results. >> >> To test

[opensuse-factory] Re: Why "patterns" were born in openSUSE ? and UI idea.

2006-10-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko
hello - anybody here? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Why "patterns" were born in openSUSE ? and UI idea.

2006-10-27 Thread Andreas Hanke
Alexey Eremenko schrieb: > hello - anybody here? Yes, sure, but the proposal is, sorry to say, a little bit late. The distribution reached the Beta stage yesterday and is stabilizing right now. In general, I'd say that a rework or redesign of the idea behind patterns should _really_ wait for open

[opensuse-factory] beta 1, second glance :-)

2006-10-27 Thread jdd
going back and forth from/to the option menu is now pretty fast (was very long, with redetection), very fine there is an error in the french text of the page "internet test". The text say: "les tests suivants _ont été réalisés_", this mean "the test has been done". Obviously at this time no

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Why "patterns" were born in openSUSE ? and UI idea.

2006-10-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko
On 10/27/06, Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexey Eremenko schrieb: > hello - anybody here? Yes, sure, but the proposal is, sorry to say, a little bit late. The distribution reached the Beta stage yesterday and is stabilizing right now. In general, I'd say that a rework or redesign o

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Mike FABIAN
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> さんは書きました: > Hi, > > On Friday 27 October 2006 07:53, Randall R Schulz wrote: >> On Friday 27 October 2006 07:27, Stephan Kulow wrote: >> > ... Make sure you read the >> > arguments of those in bug#170067 first though. >> >> ... >> >> I've read bugs 170076 and 1

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mike, On Friday 27 October 2006 12:02, Mike FABIAN wrote: > ... > > > apparently > > addresses the same issue. > > It's related, but it is not the same. > > Verdana has good byte code and renders excellently when the > byte code interpreter is u

Re: [opensuse-factory] Font Rendering in Beta1

2006-10-27 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mike, On Friday 27 October 2006 09:41, Mike FABIAN wrote: > ... > > The second screen shot is bolder, yes. > But it is more consistent. > > In your first screen shot, the 'w', 'x', and 'y' in the 11pt > line are bolder than the other glyphs in that line. I've added a snapshot of the Verdana sampl

Re: [opensuse-factory] beta 1, second glance :-)

2006-10-27 Thread David Bolt
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- >installing sources works, but is pretty long. This should be said when >the option is asked for (recommended, but may take as long as 30 >minutes) > >on the while, an error occured (factory-debug not found) Was this after you said yes to addin

[opensuse-factory] anyone could successfully launch a http web server on openSUSE 10.2 B1 ?

2006-10-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko
hi all ! I could not launch apache server on the new BETA version... the bug details are here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215992 any idea? or a workaround? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: [opensuse-factory] beta 1, second glance :-)

2006-10-27 Thread jdd
David Bolt a écrit : On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- installing sources works, but is pretty long. This should be said when the option is asked for (recommended, but may take as long as 30 minutes) on the while, an error occured (factory-debug not found) Was this after y