Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you.
Sorry about that. Here're the minutes,
Andreas
* libata per default
We're going to use libata by default for future products. For 10.3,
we will implement the following in YaST to handle disks with more
than 15 partitions (
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:35 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you.
> Sorry about that. Here're the minutes,
> Usecases:
> * Reduced image size especially of thin clients and Live images
> * Reduced image size for distributions
> * Updating
On Monday 19 February 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> * Use the lang support in RPM, ie:
> rpm -i --define "_install_langs fr:es"
> This would break delta RPMs.
I don't think breaking delat rpms is a good idea...
Andras
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On Monday 19 February 2007 18:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you.
> Sorry about that. Here're the minutes,
>
I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several apparently
ignored critical bugs) was going to be addressed.
On 2007/02/19 19:35 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
> We're going to use libata by default for future products. For 10.3,
> we will implement the following in YaST to handle disks with more
> than 15 partitions (libata uses the SCSI stack that only allows 15
> partitions):
>
> > - Repartition your system so that maximal 15 partitions are used.
> > To repartition, use your existing operating system.
> > In the future only the new libata drivers will be supported, so we
> > advice to repartition.
>
> The last sentence above is incredibly bad news, unless someth
> * Use the lang support in RPM, ie:
> rpm -i --define "_install_langs fr:es"
> This would break delta RPMs.
Don't even consider it, please. Delta rpms are still an outstanding
distinguishing feature of SUSE as far as I am aware.
Volker
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Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
- Repartition your system so that maximal 15 partitions are used.
To repartition, use your existing operating system.
In the future only the new libata drivers will be supported, so we
advice to repartition.
The last sentence above is incredibly bad news, unless
On Monday, 19. February 2007 19:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> This way we would get e.g. basesystem-$lang and gnome-$lang packages and
> those can then be installed.
Is this also planned for -$lang?
Bye,
Steve
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Stephan Binner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Monday, 19. February 2007 19:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>> This way we would get e.g. basesystem-$lang and gnome-$lang packages and
>> those can then be installed.
>
> Is this also planned for -$lang?
This would be a generic framework you could u
Andras Mantia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Monday 19 February 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> * Use the lang support in RPM, ie:
>> rpm -i --define "_install_langs fr:es"
>> This would break delta RPMs.
>
> I don't think breaking delat rpms is a good idea...
That's why we're not going for
Francis Giannaros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Monday 19 February 2007 18:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you.
>> Sorry about that. Here're the minutes,
>>
>
> I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several
> app
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> * Use the lang support in RPM, ie:
>> rpm -i --define "_install_langs fr:es"
>> This would break delta RPMs.
>
> Don't even consider it, please. Delta rpms are still an outstanding
> distinguishing feature of SUSE as far as I am aware.
It was br
jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
- Repartition your system so that maximal 15 partitions are used.
To repartition, use your existing operating system.
In the future only the new libata drivers will be supported, so we
advice to repartition.
>>>
On Tue 20 Feb 2007 23:05:12 NZDT +1300, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > so resorting to lvm should be the proposed solution, not
> > repartitionning with less than 15 partitions :-)
>
> Yes, we can change the wording ;-). The problem is that all solutions
> to support more than 15 partitions in an aut
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> Woudln't it be better to give some choice? E.g. "Use kernel parameter
> ... (not recommended), use lvm" Are there any other fundamental choices?
IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handle that many filesystems.
Beside that, there is still kpartx (part of multipath-tools)
2007/2/20, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
- Repartition your system so that maximal 15 partitions are used.
To repartition, use your existing operating system.
In the future only the new libata drivers will be s
Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
>> Woudln't it be better to give some choice? E.g. "Use kernel parameter
>> ... (not recommended), use lvm" Are there any other fundamental choices?
>
> IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handle that many filesystems.
>
> Beside
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue 20 Feb 2007 23:05:12 NZDT +1300, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>> > so resorting to lvm should be the proposed solution, not
>> > repartitionning with less than 15 partitions :-)
>>
>> Yes, we can change the wording ;-). The problem is that all solu
> > I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several
> > apparently
> > ignored critical bugs) was going to be addressed. Any update on this?
>
> Those are not on-topic for the dist meeting.
>
> I got a list of 4 bugs and I though we see progress there. Don't we?
>
> Andrea
Alberto Passalacqua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several
>> > apparently
>> > ignored critical bugs) was going to be addressed. Any update on this?
>>
>> Those are not on-topic for the dist meeting.
>>
>> I got a list of 4 bugs an
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 10:00:29 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Francis Giannaros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Monday 19 February 2007 18:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you.
> >> Sorry about that. Here're the minutes,
> >
> > I under
On 2007/02/20 12:44 (GMT-0500) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
> Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handle that many filesystems.
> Guys, do you really see this a limitation that will hit many of us?
Consider the people who typically use more than
>>> On 20-02-2007 at 14:54, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Not really gnome-specific, but still serious:
>>
>> Bug 231258 - ZMD sucks the CPU power at boot-up and during refresh
>
>Use opensuse-updater instead of zmd.
>
Andreas,
Is this the official stratement to all questions / pro
>>> On 20-02-2007 at 14:59, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007/02/20 12:44 (GMT-0500) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
>
>> Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handle that many filesystems.
>
>> Guys, do you really see this a limitat
Hi,
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2007/02/20 12:44 (GMT-0500) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
> > Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handle that many filesystems.
>
> > Guys, do you really see this a limitation that will hit many
Hello,
On Feb 20 13:54 Andreas Jaeger wrote (shortened):
> Alberto Passalacqua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > * Bug 230676 - It's impossible to configure a printer if not root.
> > (The gnome configuration tool doesn't remember per-user settings
> > like two-side printing o
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 13:40 +0100, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
> > > I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several
> > > apparently
> > > ignored critical bugs) was going to be addressed. Any update on this?
> >
> > Those are not on-topic for the dist meeting.
> >
> > I got
Il giorno mar, 20/02/2007 alle 13.54 +0100, Andreas Jaeger ha scritto:
> >
> > * Bug 229190 - main-menu Hangs
>
> This one seems difficult to reproduce ;-(
Yes, I confirm (already did in bugzilla). This is the less annoying one
probably.
> > * Bug 228129 - gnome-main-menu leaks ~2mb
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Andras Mantia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Monday 19 February 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> * Use the lang support in RPM, ie:
> >> rpm -i --define "_install_langs fr:es"
> >> This would break delta RPMs.
> >
> > I don't think breaking delat rpms is a good i
Il giorno mar, 20/02/2007 alle 08.41 -0500, JP Rosevear ha scritto:
> > * Bug 215301 - Banshee doesn't recognise my ipod anymore
>
> There is a work around in the bug, but we should release a patch.
To my knowledge the workaround is the non-helix rpm on build service. Am
I wrong?
> >
"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
On 20-02-2007 at 14:54, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Not really gnome-specific, but still serious:
>>>
>>> Bug 231258 - ZMD sucks the CPU power at boot-up and during refresh
>>
>>Use opensuse-updater instead of zmd.
>>
>
> A
Alberto Passalacqua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Il giorno mar, 20/02/2007 alle 13.54 +0100, Andreas Jaeger ha scritto:
>> >
>> > * Bug 229190 - main-menu Hangs
>>
>> This one seems difficult to reproduce ;-(
>
> Yes, I confirm (already did in bugzilla). This is the less annoying one
> pro
Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2007/02/20 12:44 (GMT-0500) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
>
>> Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handle that many filesystems.
>
>> Guys, do you really see this a limitation that will hit many of us?
Den Tuesday 20 February 2007 14:59:07 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
> Note that we're looking very closely at rug/zmd problems right now to
> see what to do for the future.
Please let us know what you find out, as soon as you know. A lot of us got the
impression from a status meeting that it was already
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 07:04, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
> Stay realistic and don't talk of 'theoretical' cases. Just a fact: do
> you know anybody having 15 partitions on his disk? for real?
I have that many on a test machine used for evaluating Linux distros
(and other operating systems)
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> On Tuesday 20 February 2007 07:04, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
>> Stay realistic and don't talk of 'theoretical' cases. Just a fact: do
>> you know anybody having 15 partitions on his disk? for real?
>
> I have that many on
Martin Schlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Den Tuesday 20 February 2007 14:59:07 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
>> Note that we're looking very closely at rug/zmd problems right now to
>> see what to do for the future.
>
> Please let us know what you find out, as soon as you know. A lot of us got
> th
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> >> Woudln't it be better to give some choice? E.g. "Use kernel parameter
> >> ... (not recommended), use lvm" Are there any other fundamental choices?
> >
> > IMO lvm is the only sane approach to handl
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The Tuesday 2007-02-20 at 15:06 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > Consider the people who typically use more than 15 partitions per disk:
>
> Really more than 15? Who has that?
Currently, I have three disks, with 20, 13, and 16 partitions
respecti
And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was dropped
and its previous versions are no more compatible.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239719
Regards
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"Juan Erbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
> Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
> mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was dropped
> and its previous versions are no more compatible.
> https://bugzilla.novell.co
2007/2/26, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
"Juan Erbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
> Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
> mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was dropped
> and its previous versions are
Am Mo 26.02.2007 17:53 schrieb Juan Erbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
> > > Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
> > > mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was
> > > dropped
> > > and its previous versions are no mo
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:08:56AM +0100, Lars Rupp wrote:
> Am Mo 26.02.2007 17:53 schrieb Juan Erbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
> > > > Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
> > > > mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSRe
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The Tuesday 2007-02-20 at 08:36 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> What is the benefit to has more than 15 partitions?
I have twenty. I do it for many reasons; one is damage containment.
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The Tuesday 2007-02-20 at 08:36 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
What is the benefit to has more than 15 partitions?
I have twenty. I do it for many reasons; one is damage containment.
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Yes, But!
2007/2/27, Lars Rupp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Am Mo 26.02.2007 17:53 schrieb Juan Erbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
> > > Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
> > > mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was
> > > dropp
2007/2/27, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:08:56AM +0100, Lars Rupp wrote:
> Am Mo 26.02.2007 17:53 schrieb Juan Erbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder?
> > > > Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With
> > > >
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The Wednesday 2007-02-28 at 02:35 -, Sid Boyce wrote:
> > I have twenty. I do it for many reasons; one is damage containment.
> >
> Yes, But! Hardware will always get you. Every disaster I have had has been
> down to IDE controllers (twice) or s
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 (40 days ago) I posted a list of the most annoying
GNOME bugs in openSUSE 10.2. Let's sum up what's the situation today,
not considering the bugs which were labelled as not solvable soon:
Bug 229190 - main-menu Hangs
Bug 228129 - gnome-main-menu leaks ~2mb per recent entry/open
Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Tuesday 2007-02-20 at 15:06 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
> >> Consider the people who typically use more than 15 partitions per disk:
> > Really more than 15? Who has that?
>
> Currently, I have three disks, with 20, 13, and 16 partitions
> respectively. Certainly,
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