Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Hi, we are running 9.2 on HP-UX here. We have pg_aggregate_target configured, but I realized (in my opinion) very high memory consumption of Oracle Unix processes. a) How come that one Oracle Connection (i.e. dedicated Unix process on HP) is using up at least 22 MB of RAM? It is using 22 MB if

Savepoints in 9i

2003-11-17 Thread Ramasubramanian, Shankar (Cognizant)
Title: Savepoints in 9i Hi Friends , In my application , we are having a program written in C which executes the sql command that is passed as an argument to it. When I call the procedure to Create a savepoint SP1 and then to rollback to the named savepoint , it throws an oracle error

Re: Trace versus Statspack data

2003-11-17 Thread Rhojel_Echano
Hi. Execute in sqltrace is for that particular session only whereas in statspack, it's system wide. A lot of sessions might have executed the same query. Best regards VIVEK_SHARMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2003 02:19 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:

RE: granting SELECT privilege on SYS.X$ TABLES

2003-11-17 Thread Mark Leith
Check out Jacques e-mail address - he *works* for Quest ;) -Original Message- Wolfgang Breitling Sent: 15 November 2003 07:04 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Someone must have created sys.x_$ views on some of the sys.x$ tables. Installing statspack does that for example for

Trace versus Statspack data

2003-11-17 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
We are doing Interest processing on a SET of 10,000 Bank A/cs Following SQL Query Shows DIFFERING values for :- Execute from SQL_TRACE = 2584 Executions from Statspack report = 10,000 Qs. What is the reason for this? SQL_TRACE :- call count cpu elapsed disk query current

RE: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
Helmut, I don't know how you are measuring your numbers, but beware that what the operating system reports is often somewhat misleading. Typically, shared memory is often 'attributed' to each and every process linked to it. When you think about it it makes sense, but at the same time it

Re: wakeup time manager

2003-11-17 Thread Bill Buchan
Hi Arup, Yes, AQ is enabled for this database - thanks for the information. - Bill. At 07:59 13/11/2003 -0800, Arup Nanda wrote: Have you enabled Advanced Queue Manager process in the init file? aq_tm_processes? If so, this wait event occurs when the process just waits to see some messages in

Re: wakeup time manager

2003-11-17 Thread Bill Buchan
Hi Arup, Yes, AQ is enabled for this database - thanks for the information. - Bill. At 07:59 13/11/2003 -0800, Arup Nanda wrote: Have you enabled Advanced Queue Manager process in the init file? aq_tm_processes? If so, this wait event occurs when the process just waits to see some messages in

Re: DB Code compilation and library cache lock issue

2003-11-17 Thread zhu chao
DB Code compilation and library cache lock issueHi, To detect whether you are waiting for a compile to finish, you can just check v$session_wait and see if your current session is waiting for library cache pin wait event. Without such wait event ,compiling a procedure can just be finished in

Trace versus Statspack data

2003-11-17 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
We are doing Interest processing on a SET of 10,000 Bank A/cs Following SQL Query Shows DIFFERING values for :- Execute from SQL_TRACE = 2584 Executions from Statspack report = 10,000 Qs. What is the reason for this? SQL_TRACE :- call count cpuelapsed disk query

Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Hi List, One of my customers gets HP Servicedesk 4.5 implemented. The database that has been created by on of the DBA's for the application is Oracle 8.1.7.4, on AIX 4.3. The database has characterset UTF8, which is the standard here. Now ServiceDesk has bad performance. HP claims that the

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Mladen, we must have started in the same era. You're describing the environment I started with, however, our disk was 10MB. So you remember SQL*Forms 1.3 (IAC/IAG/IAP) and HLI as well? Carel, I know that. That was my first oracle version. I installed V4 on an IBM PC/XT with WD 20MB hard drive

RE: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Hi Stephane, thanks for your reply. We are measuring the values by getting the OS process ID of a specific Oracle connection and then trach that process ID using glance (on HP-UX). Since the SGA is ab 1.5 GB, it is definitely not attached to the memory consumed by each process. I know that

Archive Destinations: quota_size

2003-11-17 Thread Bill Buchan
Hi all, Is anyone using the QUOTA_SIZE setting in the LOG_ARCHIVE_DEST_n parameters? I am trying to use this for a local archive destination in a non-Dataguard configuration. However if the destination fills up, although the error is correctly identified and reported (alert log and

Re: modeling year and month for summary data

2003-11-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Randy, We have both weekly and monthly summary tables and the date data field is defined as DATE. It is populated by the pl/sql package that summarizes the data using a date value passed to the package as the ending date for the week or month. On the first of the month or Sunday we run the

how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Hi! We are currently discussing Oracle licensing issues. Due to the number of users, named user licensing is not an option for us. Our HP-boxes are having 10 processors each. Since the CPU's are 90% idle, we are thinking about limiting Oracle to only using 4 out of the 10 CPUs. Is this possible

RE: RE: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
Helmut, Seems a bit high to me as well. Concerning the PGA issue, what about running something like : col name format A25 select n.name, round(min(s.value) / 1024) MIN K, round(avg(s.value) / 1024) AVG K, round(max(s.value) / 1024) MAX K from v$statname n, v$sesstat

software deployment control

2003-11-17 Thread Ron Rogers
List, I have been asked to produce a process for documenting the request,test,deployment, etc of the server OS, client OS, and databases that we use. I have googled for 'software deployment control' and 'software change management' without much success. We are looking for a written procedure not

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
I do. I thought that IAD (graphic interface which came with 2.0 in version 5) was a solution to all problems. Version 4 was used for training purposes only. First real apps were developed with 5.0 and 5.1.22. On 11/17/2003 06:14:24 AM, Carel-Jan Engel wrote: Mladen, we must have started in the

Re: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Your process has parts of SGA attached to it. The only way to actually find out is to examine the process address space wia kernel debugger or /proc file system. First, try with ps -lp PID and see how big is the RSS (resident set size). On 11/17/2003 02:09:26 AM, Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi,

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Yong Huang
Carel-Jan, About two weeks ago, Faan DeSwardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to the thread Unicode: UTF-16 to UTF-8 conversion, saying UTF-8 is variable-length encoding and so is slower than the fixed-width UTF-16, and also US7ASCII. Maybe it's the same issue here comparing UTF-8 with WE8ISO8859P15.

Re: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Yong Huang
Gogala, I've been searching for a /proc filesystem implementation on HPUX for years. I don't think it's there yet. Yong Huang --- Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your process has parts of SGA attached to it. The only way to actually find out is to examine the process address space wia

IOUG Live2004 session confirmation

2003-11-17 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Does anyone who submitted their abstracts to IOUG-A Live! 2004 remember when was the deadline for acceptance confirmation from IOUG-A? Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--

Re: how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! You should check the licensing agreements first, AFAIK you need a licence for each CPU in server, it doesn't matter how many of them you actually use. Also I haven't heard that HP-UX supported CPU affinity anyway... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: IOUG Live2004 session confirmation

2003-11-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Tanel, The emails/letters should be coming out soon. They have been working on scheduling. Daniel Fink Tanel Poder wrote: Hi! Does anyone who submitted their abstracts to IOUG-A Live! 2004 remember when was the deadline for acceptance confirmation from IOUG-A? Tanel. -- Please see the

Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Schauss, Peter
Oracle version 8.1.7 AIX 4.3.3 I am trying to configure mult-threaded server on one of my development databases. In my init.ora file, I set (mts_dispatchers=(address=(protocol=tcp)) mts_servers=10 When I bring up the database, I can see the dispatcher and servers. When I connect to the

Re: Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Barbara Baker
Peter: 8.1.7 is pretty picky about syntax. Here's what I have in my 8.1.7.4 database. (It's Solaris, but I believe the parameter is the same) MTS_DISPATCHERS=(address=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=atex-ent-prd1))(disp=2) mts_servers = 20 Good luck! Barb --- Schauss, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: IOUG Live2004 session confirmation

2003-11-17 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Talked with Stan Yellott Friday. His is scheduling and confirming today. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Technical Alliance Manager Compuware Corporation Direct: (313) 227-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Tanel Poder

RE: how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Helmut: I think (???) if you have MC Service Guard installed, you can specifically allocate CPUs for specific processes. For the SQL*Net stuff, not sure if you can limit these. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Technical Alliance Manager Compuware Corporation Direct: (313) 227-4350 Mobile:

Re: Savepoints in 9i

2003-11-17 Thread Jared Still
The fine manual doesn't seem to reveal anything new. Here's what you need to do: Write some pure PL/SQL code with which you can duplicate this problem, and post it to the list. If you can't duplicate it that way, it's very likely to be a Pro*C problem, in which case you should: Write some C

Re: Savepoints in 9i

2003-11-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Here's a wild guess, could it have anything to do with turning on automatic undo and setting undo_suppress_errors (sp?) to true? Is the savepoint command erroring and not being trapped? Daniel Fink Jared Still wrote: The fine manual doesn't seem to reveal anything new. Here's what you need

Re: Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
You have to make sure the dispatchers are registered with the listener. Use lsnrctl services to make sure. The error you gave shows that they are not registered. If your listener is not on 1521, then the dispatchers won't know how to find it to register. You'll have to add the listener=

RE: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Jacques -- Huh? I thought the question was, give me all the usrs where there exists a record containing a 1,5, and 7. How can that return one record, when there are two users -- and only two users -- who have the 1,5,7 combination? The data provided shows that both GAP and GPA have a 1, 5 and

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Do you know how SQL*Plus was called during Oracle V4? (And maybe earlier, but this is as far as my history with Oracle goes) They called it UFI, which means User Friendly Interface! And that dreaded afiedt.buf came was a copy of the Advanced User Friendly Interface Buffer (edt was

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Hope you don't mind the intrusion... I used HLI back in 5.0.20 days, and the big problem converting in 5.1.22 when everything had to go to IAPXIT. When were IAP|IAG replaced with IAD? I thought that came in around 1.3... was it later? Because by v2 it was SQL*Forms... Bambi. On 11/17/2003

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
IAD was the executable (on VMS) that the Sql*Forms command ran (D for Designer). IAG was to generate a form (G for Generate). IAP to execute it (P for something that I can't remember). This was SqlForms 3.0. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
P was Program... it was the Y/N program file. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L IAD was the executable (on VMS) that the Sql*Forms command ran (D for Designer). IAG was to generate a form (G for Generate). IAP to

building a reporting database

2003-11-17 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi i am in the process of trying to firgure out the best way to model a reporting database . the source for the data in this database is a oltp system and i have figured out these three methods are good. - using aq and dq message processing - using snapshot replication - using ro standby

RE: building a reporting database

2003-11-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sai - In your first sentence, you ask about modeling. Then the rest of your posting appears to relate to data movement? Which topic are you interested in discussing? For data movement, the best method often relates to the amount of data you estimate you will be moving, and how often. Dennis

RE: how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Helmut Tanel's understanding matches mine. CPU-based licensing makes it wise to install Oracle only on servers used exclusively for Oracle. You might also consider Oracle Standard Edition licensing. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent:

RE: software deployment control

2003-11-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ron The organization that is providing concepts behind improving deployment processes is ITIL. Start at http://www.itil.org. This is not a software package (but some software packages comply with ITIL's concepts). It isn't even a set of procedures, but a set of processes that will assist you in

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Only string manipulation/comparision is slower with variable width charsets than with fixed width ones, because with variable width ones (UTF-8) you have to check the highest bit of each byte to check whether it shows that the next byte is part of current character or is part of next

RE: building a reporting database

2003-11-17 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
dennis i am sorry to have been real unclear. data movement is what i am interested in.

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Thater, William
Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Do you know how SQL*Plus was called during Oracle V4? (And maybe earlier, but this is as far as my history with Oracle goes) They called it UFI, which means User Friendly Interface! And that dreaded afiedt.buf came was a copy of

RE: granting SELECT privilege on SYS.X$ TABLES

2003-11-17 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Yet another case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Now I'm curious to find out which team is creating those x_$ views. -Original Message- Mark Leith Check out Jacques e-mail address - he *works* for Quest ;) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

RE: granting SELECT privilege on SYS.X$ TABLES

2003-11-17 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Boy do I feel stupid! Thank you Mr. Khedr and Mr. Breitling. I know the views are there, but at first I thought that maybe there were being created as part of the database creation process in some cases. In the first database I looked at, the X_$ views had the same creation date as the database

RE: software deployment control

2003-11-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Dennis, Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the starting URL. We have a service or help desk already and I would like to make it browser based but I am banging my head against the wall of we don't use it or need it why train for it mentality. You mentioned the particular servers that are

RE: Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Schauss, Peter
When I do lsnrctl services, I get two entries for each instance. For example: tawk has 1 service handler(s) DEDICATED SERVER established:33 refused:0 LOCAL SERVER tawk has 2 service handler(s) DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0 LOCAL SERVER

RE: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
The original question was show me the users who have ALL the values in the list but NOT MORE than the values in the list. -Original Message- Bellow, Bambi Huh? I thought the question was, give me all the usrs where there exists a record containing a 1,5, and 7. How can that

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
make love -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Do you know how SQL*Plus was called during Oracle V4? (And maybe earlier, but this is as far as my history with Oracle

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, not all hope is lost. Look at the following URL's: http://www.makalis.fr/~bertrand/FreeVMS/indexGB.html http://www.bosbc.com/ The second one is a commercial product, but certainly provides a familiar layer. On 11/17/2003 02:04:25 PM, Thater, William wrote: Bellow, Bambi scribbled on

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Carel-Jan
At 10:34 17-11-03 -0800, you wrote: Performance depends on a lot of things, such how much string operations you got, what are the contents of your strings (are they mainly latin chars or are there lots of asian ones etc..). Tanel. Thanks Tanel for your respond. I doubt whether a query will go

RE: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
Just a guess: select distinct usr from xxx where (select count(*) from xxx group by Usr) = (select count(*) from xxx group by Usr, val) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Carel-Jan
Thanks Yong. I doubt whether this can have such a significant effect, or it must be that due to some incompatability an index can't be used (or simply isn't even there). They have to trace the session, alas I'm not allowed to touch the system (other project, other budget blah blah) At 06:54

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
We've purchased nuTPU from aSoft: http://www.asoft-dev.com/tpu_info.htm It's very good, although most of my low level EVE replacements don't work (e.g. off-screen cursor handling, custom comment handling, etc.). Development appears to be stopped as there have been no new patches or versions in a

Re: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Using Bambi's table and values. Try this query, it's ugly but it works (kind of like the contributor...) Daniel 1 select o.usr, count(o.usr) 2 from (select distinct usr, val 3from gab 4where val in (1,5,7) 5 and usr not in (select usr 6

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Thater, William
Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: make love not war -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] The knack of

RE: Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Peter, If you declare in the init.ora file where the listener is running, then the database automatically connects to the listener. This is the second tawk entry in your lsnrctl status listing. If you declare the database in the listener.ora file, then the listener goes looking for the

RE: Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Schauss, Peter
Thanks for all of the suggestions. I took a look at my init.ora file and discovered that I had the services and db_domain entries disagreed with the database global_name value and. I fixed those entries, bounced the database and the connections started coming in on the shared server. Peter

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Yong Huang
Here's a wild guess. If the character set is changed, a 10 MB segment (from the first extent to high water mark) may become 20 MB or 5 MB. Then CBO changes the plan and it happens to be a bad one. Yong Huang --- Carel-Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:34 17-11-03 -0800, you wrote:

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Bill, that's a wrong answer. The correct answer is make love, not children. On 11/17/2003 02:54:42 PM, Thater, William wrote: Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: make love not war -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... --

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Carel-Jan
No characterset changed yet. They want us to recreate the database. the system is going live in a few weeks. I simply hate changing things because someone says so. It might be the quickest solution, but most probably not, and then it's a waste of time, energy etc. Here's a wild guess. If the

RE: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Carel-Jan Look at it this way. Easier to fix the character set now. And if the performance is still bad, then they've got one less excuse. Being a DBA means learning to live with disappointment. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday,

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
No, sorry, that is the correct answer. The original question was Does anyone remember TECO? In TECO, if you entered the command make love, it would respond not war. Two points to Bill and thanks for the smile to both, Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:14 PM

RE: Configuring multi-threaded server

2003-11-17 Thread Schauss, Peter
If you remove the database declarations from your listener.ora file does it cause a problem if the listener is not running when the database comes up? Thanks, Peter Schauss -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Peter, If

RE: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Alan Gano
Gabriel, How about this untested code? Alan. select usr from ( select usr, sum(decode(val,1,1,0)) look1, -- flag for 1 sum(decode(val,5,5,0)) look2, -- flag for 5 sum(decode(val,7,7,0)) look3, -- flag for 7

Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace called RBS. The person who set it up set %INCREASE at 50%. Well, I shrank the segments to themselves down to less than 500MB total from 4.6GB! But in using ALTER DATABASE DATAFILE . . . RESIZE . . . it won't let

Re: software deployment control

2003-11-17 Thread Jared . Still
Looks like someone has been tapped for Sarbanes Oxley. Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2003 05:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:software deployment control

Re: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
Michael Milligan wrote: I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace called RBS. The person who set it up set %INCREASE at 50%. Well, I shrank the segments to themselves down to less than 500MB total from 4.6GB! But in using ALTER DATABASE DATAFILE . .

Re: how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread Jared . Still
Actually, I believe it is even more restrictive than that. It doesn't matter how many CPU's are in the machine, what matters is how many CPU's the machine is capable of holding. So what they are really licensing is not the # of CPU's, but the class of the machine. Try digging in the archives,

Re: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Micheal, Could you shrink the rbs even smaller? This should work if the first two extents of each rbs are in the 'first' blocks of the datafile. If not, the best solution is to create new smaller ones as you drop the others and then resize. Regardless of the solution, do this during a slow time

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Daniel Fink
DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: Being a DBA means learning to live with disappointment. Well said, well spoken, Dennis. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Daniel Fink INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com

Re: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Jared . Still
The high water mark for the rollback segments is preventing you from shrinking the files. Use alter rollback segment SEGMENT_NAME storage ( optimal OPTIMAL_SIZE) to set an optimal size for the segment, then use 'alter rollback segment SEGMENT_NAME shrink' to shrink the rollback. You may want

RE: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
Thanks for the info. It's 8.1.7.4, and it's not hard-coded. I changed it from 50% to 0%, but the damage had been done. Maybe you're just nostalgiac for the good old days of v6! I did set an optimal, and used shrink. That worked fine to shrink the segments, but they are still scattered

RE: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
Daniel, Thank you very much. I'll do what you suggested, on both counts. I'll try shrinking them more first, then create new ones if needed. Thanks again, Mike -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Micheal, Could you

reporting database

2003-11-17 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi data movement for a reporting database from a OLTP intensive db is what i am interested in.

Re: how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread Denny Koovakattu
We can buy machines with the CPUs installed but turned off and only activate them when needed. I don't think we need to license Oracle for the CPUs that are turned off. Regards, Denny -- Denny Koovakattu Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, I believe it is even more restrictive than

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Tanel Poder
$ make lovemake: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. - Original Message - From: "Bellow, Bambi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12) make love

RE: reporting database

2003-11-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sai - All data in the database? How large, how active is the source database? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L hi data movement for a reporting database from a OLTP

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Tanel Poder
The fun part is that if the database will perform better after recreation for some reason, then the HP guys (and probably your bosses) will tell you, we said so or smth like that :) Of course when performance goes bad again after a week, HP guys will probably ask for a block size change + db

Re: how can I make Oracle not use all processors in machine?

2003-11-17 Thread Brian Haas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I believe it is even more restrictive than that. It doesn't matter how many CPU's are in the machine, what matters is how many CPU's the machine is capable of holding. So what they are really licensing is not the # of CPU's, but the class of the machine. Try

RE: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread Goulet, Dick
I really hate to admit it, but I agree. Doing otherwise is a simple recipe for hypertension, stroke an early death. Besides, it's so much more gratifying be able to say I TOLD YOU SO. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November

NEW: Second part of row level security paper

2003-11-17 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Everyone, The second part of my new paper on row level security is out today. This part talks about the issues with row level security, the dictionary views that can be used to check configuration and also how to detect if row level security is used using trace and sql. There is a link to this

RE: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Gabriel Aragon
Ok, guys I have to apologize twice, First: the delay to answer your very kind emails, (you know the urgent problems dont let you time for the important ones) Second: maybe my question was not clear enough, ciertanly what Bambi says is what I need give me all the usrs where there exists a

Re: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Vladimir Begun
Jacques Kilchoer wrote: Mr. Begun: I'm not convinced that your answer is quite the right one. I've provided two solutions but I'm still confused :). Jacques, does that mean that I understand English and the original query was Ok? :) -- Vladimir Begun The statements and opinions expressed here are

Re: Bad performance because of wrong characterset?

2003-11-17 Thread zhu chao
Hi, Since everyone is just guessing, can you say more detail about the bad performance? High CPU usage with no idle so client wait for CPU time? or Low CPu usage but client still wait? or High disk io rate with 100% disk busy? Can you show us some data about your aix box and statspack

Re: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread zhu chao
Hi, I have also been researching on how to monitor oracle process memory utilization on different platform . And on hp, it seems more difficult. I once see a note on metalink talking about using kernel debugger on HP to detect it, here is a sample output, but I do not know the

Re: Why is Oracle process using 25 MB of RAM when idle?

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, the last number is, obviously, the size of the area. Only the maps of shared memory, text and data are of some interest. Text is, in case of an oracle process, $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle and you don't have any influence over it. The data section are the auxiliary structures. If you are

RE: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Mr. Begun, I didn't answer your comment about making the query work with the decode vs. using a user-written PL/SQL function because I wanted to compare timings for both. I created a table with 200,000 rows and compared the VB (Vladimir Begun) query to the JRK (my) query. The runtimes were

Re: Silly SQL Question

2003-11-17 Thread Vladimir Begun
Jacques, you can use my first name -- Mr. is too official for this list :). You have modified the query, however I would suggest you to check execution plan (and present it here) and remove LENGTH(TRANSLATE(:list, ',0123456789-E', ',')) by replacing it using number of elements in the list i.e.,

OWS-05566 caused by ORA-12202

2003-11-17 Thread Rhojel_Echano
I would like to make an application in OAS 408 to connect to an 817 database. When I try to create a DAD to establish this connection, I get this error: OWS-05566 caused by ORA-12202: TNS internal navigation error. Can anyone enlighten me on what these errors mean and how to work around it? DB

Re: OWS-05566 caused by ORA-12202

2003-11-17 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Hi Rhojel, 8.1.7 comes with the 9iAS installed automatically as part of the regular software install. May I ask why you're using OAS? Regards, Melanie --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make an application in OAS 408 to connect to an 817 database. When I try to create a DAD to

Client-server Forms6i against Oracle 9i (9.2.0.4) database?

2003-11-17 Thread Don Granaman
Is it possible to run Forms6i in client-server mode against an Oracle 9.2.0.4 database? One of the developers where I work flatly states that Forms 6i (in any mode) doesn't work against (any) Oracle 9i and I cannot find any specific information either confirming or denying this assertion.

Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-17 Thread VirVit
Well, I mean that OS (w2k) file size of temp01.ora grows faster... I've setup multimaster replication and as a result got temporary tablespace about 10 Gb. OEM shows that used only about 1Gb, so others 9Gb are gone. I wanna to free them for my purposes. Perhaps you could clarify what you mean

Listener without IPC

2003-11-17 Thread VirVit
What will happens if I remove all occurence of IPC protocol from communication level, i.e. Listener? Can U work only over TCP/IP? -- (VirVit) Oracle 9i DBA beginner -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: VirVit INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network

Re: OWS-05566 caused by ORA-12202

2003-11-17 Thread Rhojel_Echano
Hi Melanie, This was how the application was implemented in my new company, they used OAS 408. Still gettingfamiliar with their application.. this is what happened: I transferred the dev DB to another host for maintenance purposes and when I tried to configure a DAD for that DB in OAS, I got

RE: Client-server Forms6i against Oracle 9i (9.2.0.4) database?

2003-11-17 Thread Richard Oliver Jones
Hi Don We have moved to oracle 9i (9.2.0.3) and are running Forms6i without any problem. According to the Metalink certification matrix Forms 6i patch set 13 and above are certified with Oracle 9.2 (or 9i). The matrix does not distinguish between minor releases of Oracle (i.e. 9.2.0.3 and

Re: OWS-05566 caused by ORA-12202

2003-11-17 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Hi Rhojel, I'm sure you know this, but that error message usually leads you straight to Oracle support. Are the protocols on each box the same? Are the sqlnet.ora files the same? Or do they at least each have AUTOMATIC_IPC set to OFF? Regards, Melanie --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

Re: OWS-05566 caused by ORA-12202

2003-11-17 Thread Rhojel_Echano
Hi Melanie, Yup, I've checked all that. I guess that's the only option I have right now (Oracle support). There's not much documentation for this error in Metalink, I guess they want us to go to them directly on this one..=) But I'll do some double checking on those points that you've