I support a CoC at origami events.
It would be helpful if in moving forward instead of off-topic examples being
used to discuss the need for a CoC that examples of actual harassment that are
already publicly stated by at least one person that include assault, unwelcomed
touching, conversations
Let's not allow tales of extreme behavior and edge cases to distract from
the reality that *there have been real and serious issues between members
of the origami community*, which means that some people now feel unsafe at
community events.
Do we not, as a community, have a responsibility to make
https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Community_anti-harassment/Policy
specifically:
Community Name prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged
people's comfort. Response Team reserves the right not to act on complaints
regarding:
* 'Reverse' -isms, including 'reverse
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 5:50 PM John Scully
wrote:
> The problem (in my and many other’s opinion)
>
I suggest that, at least in this conversation, we frame things as our own
opinions and avoid using nonspecific "others" to lend gravity to our point
of view. I am sure you know plenty of people
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:49 PM John Scully
wrote:
> ...
From: Origami On Behalf Of
Joseph Wu
...
OK, the two of you will refrain from talking to each other directly, from
commenting about the other's real world, Facebook or list-based actions,
behavior, specific wording, rhetorical tactics,
Malachi,
While that is worded differently than what the library had in the same
category, to me it appears fine. Apparently the problem is my
misunderstanding what we each meant by the words “exact” and “specific”. I
apologize for misinterpreting your overall intent.
Carol Martinson
Sorry Joseph, are you saying that you have hacked my facebook, email and phones
and know the exact details of every conversation I have had with anyone over
the last two years?
If not, then please do not impugn my character by implying that I am lying.
You do not know what people have
The problem (in my and many other’s opinion) with “use of sexist, racist,
ableist, or any other discriminatory or exclusionary language” is that those
terms are open to wildly varying interpretation. What person X considers
normal speech, person Y considers offensive. Who is the judge?
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:18 AM Carol Martinson via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:
> If I am interpreting what he is trying to say correctly, people need the
> specific words and actions named so they know what is and is not allowed.
> Acceptable behaviors vary widely from
Before my day gets too busy to respond, I want to reply to a point made by
Malachi about the need for specific acts and items to be named in a Code of
Conduct. If I am interpreting what he is trying to say correctly, people need
the specific words and actions named so they know what is
> On May 16, 2021, at 17:05, John Scully wrote:
>
> The background is that since the first person asked us about one a little
> over a year ago we have had maybe six people make what range from suggestions
> to demands about what should be included. The reason I pushed back so
> strongly was
On Sun, May 16, 2021, 8:08 PM John R. S. Mascio wrote:
> I have some questions, I feel, we need to seriously think about:
>
> *What do we hope to accomplish? *Have a CoC? Bad. Reasons for a CoC?
> I'm sure we can come up with 1000's of reasons, and probably all good, but
> a knee-jerk
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 7:05 PM John Scully
wrote:
> There are large parts of this that we can all easily agree on - the two
> extremes.
> First is anything that is an actual crime. Assault of any kind, violence,
> threats of violence etc. If anything like that occurs then the police
> should
>John Scully wrote:
>I would prefer a more general statement - something along the lines of "If
>anyone does or says anything >that is making you or someone else uncomfortable
>please report it to an admin and we will make a >determination and >take
>appropriate action". Not a promise
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