Whats the state of IronFlare? It would be nice to hear whats
going on...
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From: Karl Avedal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
Hello everyone,
Time is well overdue for some informati
e it for anything but JSP or servlets. It has so many
> flaws that I don't even want to get in to them!!
>
> /korre
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kemp Randy-W18971
> To: Orion-Interest
> Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> We
: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:25 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
I can not speak for Orion, but I can tell you that I have read many a thread
in this list and there are plenty of people knowledgeable about Orion.
However
y even give you a break on the price. As for
> why they don't respond..well, I can't answer that.
>
> Anyways..I hope the class goes well.
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rabi Satter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14,
or why they don't respond..well,
I can't answer that.
Anyways..I hope the class goes well.
> -Original Message-
> From: Rabi Satter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:03 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
&
sage-----
> From: Kevin Duffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:41 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> I am sorry, but I don't quite understand how training of EJB on Orion is any
> different than
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:41 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
I am sorry, but I don't quite understand how training of EJB on Orion is any
different than that of other platforms? You are trainging EJB, not the
vendor application server. EJB is
You'd better, they're rather heavy.
=)
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From: "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
> >Du
>Dude, do you really think a Swedish company with a handful of employees
>is going to be able to field a worldwide army of training
>professionals?
It just occurred to me that this sounds rather bad... I was trying to
imply that it would be unlikely for such training professionals to be
sent al
> I don't think it supports Servlet 2.2/JSP 1.1 yet
> either..unless it recently
> has added that support. I am surprised that with $2billion
This has now been added in the latest service pack
Kev
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>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:41 PM
>To: Orion-Interest
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>Subject: Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
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>All,
>Running a training program for EJB's gives me a differ
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:41 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Cc: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> All,
> Running a training program for EJB's gives me a different
> perspective when dealing with EJB application vendors lik
you would like to learn more about the mystery of EJB'S, LET ORION
> KNOW. We need your help.
They're mysteries?
> Mike Van
> C.E.O. JUGerNaut
>
> > Original Message ---
> >From: Kemp Randy-W18971 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTEC
ime.
>
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>From: Konstantin Polyzois
>To: Orion-Interest
>Sent: 2/13/01 6:56 AM
>Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>"Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great..."
>
>Speaking as someone who has done devel
he, and now 60 % of the world's servers run it.
> Developers see that the low priced and open source options are maturing
> and proving themselves. It's just a matter of time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Konstantin Polyzois
> To: Orion-Interest
>
t to get in to them!!
/korre
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From: Kemp Randy-W18971
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you
want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front
-- big companies don't mind spending a few
thousand for the peace of mind, and in many cases, it is a good investment for them.
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From: Chandika Mendis
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 2/13/01 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
I've tried out Unify's
e top dogs.
> -Original Message-
> From: Danut Prisacaru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:13 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> I just played a little bit with WebSphere and I have to agree with
&
yzois
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:57 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
"Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great..."
Speaking as someone who has done development using Websphere (3.0 & 3.02):
It sucks! Don't use it for any
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>From: Kemp Randy-W18971
>To: Orion-Interest
>Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58
>Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
>Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you
>want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui'
!
/korre
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From: Kemp Randy-W18971
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you
want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui's,
good doc
> 1 Orion -- This product is ready now, but I haven't seen anyone from this
list run a Sears store on it.
http://www.printpotato.co.uk/ is ran on orion, and is a fair sized
application. Unfortunately tw2 who are developing it have just gone out of
buisness.
dra have great
potential, but they are not ready yet and have to prove themselves. Jonas is OK but I
prefer the other open source alternatives.
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From: Anthony W. Marino
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 2/11/01 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
On another note, c
s stil EXCELLENT. While I'm very much looking forward to a new
> round of released bug fixes, I'm still waiting for some things to shake
> out before I abandon ship.
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: M
So, no good news then, eh?
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> From: Robert Krueger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:11 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
>
> At 11:33 02.02.2001 , you wrote:
> >Any news fr
At 11:33 02.02.2001 , you wrote:
>Any news from Orion yet??
>Two weeks and nothing ...
well, the only news is 1.4.5.
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Any news from Orion yet??
Two weeks and nothing ...
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From: "Karl Avedal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
> Hello everyone
"Mike Sick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As developers, I'm sure everyone has slipped a deadline at least
> once :)
Never!
;-)
use them.
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From: Karl Avedal
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 1/15/01 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
Hello everyone,
Time is well overdue for some information from us about the release
schedule
and when you can see your bugs fixed. I'm sorry to say that I
On 15 Jan 2001 12:18:18 -0800, Tony Wilson wrote:
> Yes, this is ideal. However, there are subtle differences between the app
> servers. They are sometimes caused by bugs, but more often are caused by
> ambiguous points within the j2ee specs.
Too true. However, that is what the Sun CTS tests
while and we'll all feel a
little better. Good luck with the new version.
Regards,
Mike Sick
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From: "Karl Avedal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
> Hello everyone,
>
Hello everyone,
Time is well overdue for some information from us about the release schedule
and when you can see your bugs fixed. I'm sorry to say that I can't give any
information now either about when the next release can be available and when
the different bugs can be fixed.
We have been pre
t; So the decision on which app server to use is very important, even
> when you
> design to the spec as much as possible.
>
> Tony Wilson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ozzie Gurkan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:
January 16, 2001 6:52 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??: Rebuttle...
>
>
>
> Its close to app server independence, but the spec doesn't go far
> enough in some
> areas. One good example is User Management. I would love to use
>
What is the name of their mews server?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Boehle
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:07 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: OT: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
This is getting a little off-topic, but have you
>
>Why is that flamebait? I'm not a virulent supporter; I use Orion because
>(right now) it still supports what I need best and the bugs I know of
>aren't so severe that I can't work around. There are a LOT of features in
>Orion that simply rock compared to other app servers. That hasn't chan
pecs first, etc. - now I feel dumb
> for doing so, as they haven't had a new release in several months...
>
> Jason Boehle
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> -Original Message-
> From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> T
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:41 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??: Rebuttle...
Not to sound like a hipocrat but I believe the J2EE standard
calls for a
pplication server independe
gone into the current setup to change it to other alternatives and
> other products supporting the same standards are simply too expensive.
>
> >round of released bug fixes, I'm still waiting for some things to shake
> >out before I abandon ship.
>
> but you have t
, January 15, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
Well the best thing about WL is you don't have to worry about support...
There isn't any!!!
No real they have some of the worst support I have ever seen.
> -Original Message-
> From: San
e. So far, it's still
Orion (I say that as I'm eyeing the WL6 installation on this box...)
> JP
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> From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 12:21
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion y
y, January 14, 2001 3:43 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
Ditto.
We are seriously considering Orion for our production system. However,
it
seems like support for this product has stopped, and is lacking. We
might
have to go elsewhere. Just a few words about what is g
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From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 12:21
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Jason Boehle wrote:
> WL6 has support for EARs. They also support all of the EJB 2.0 spec
except
> for de
On Monday, January 15, 2001 9:21 AM, Joseph B. Ottinger wrote:
> Of course, this is a little unfair - weblogic hadn't had a new release for
> several months, either. They've just had a major release recently, which
> makes it seem like they're more active than Orion, when that's not
> necessarily
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> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:29 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
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>
> Well the best thing about WL is you don't have to worry about
> support...
> There isn't any!!!
> No real they
ehle
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> From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
>
> Hi kevin,
> As far as i have known WL5.1 or <
Since there have been, to this point, only two main people working on Orion and those
same two
people are now trying to organize and grow the company that they started, they have
spent the
majority of the last few months focusing on that aspect of the business. They haven't
stopped the
developm
antial risk involved in choosing a brandnew (even
> > standard) technology. I would be more careful next time. Now too much
> > work
> > has gone into the current setup to change it to other alternatives and
> > other products supporting the same standards are simply too expensi
would be nice!
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Santosh Kumar
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:57 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> Hi kevin,
> As far as
gt;
> but you have to admit that it's getting harder to hold on to that?
>
> my 2 c
>
> robert
>
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
>
; To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
>
> Hi kevin,
> As far as i have known WL5.1 or <, there is no concept of ear
> files,
> does 6.0 include
> that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR = WAR +
> JAR
>
robert
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
> >
> >
> > Hi kevin,
> > As
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> From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> Hi kevin,
> As far as i have known WL5.1 or <, there is no concept of ear files,
> does 6.0 incl
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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
Hi kevin,
As far as i have known WL5.1 or <, there is no concept of ear files,
does 6.0 include
that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR = WAR + JAR
h features. Any users here ???
Regards,
PHiL
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : lundi 15 janvier 2001 07:57
> À : Orion-Interest
> Objet : Re: Any news from Orion yet??
>
>
> Hi kevin,
> As far as i have known
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From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
> I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy
to
> work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still
I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy to
work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still the best. JBoss looks very
interesting as well.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
> Burnell
> Sent: Sunday,
> Ditto.
>
> We are seriously considering Orion for our production system. However, it
> seems like support for this product has stopped, and is lacking. We might
> have to go elsewhere. Just a few words about what is going on at Orion will
> help out a lot.
>
> Tony Wilson
No idea why there'
Ditto.
We are seriously considering Orion for our production system. However, it
seems like support for this product has stopped, and is lacking. We might
have to go elsewhere. Just a few words about what is going on at Orion will
help out a lot.
Tony Wilson
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