Reminder Scandinavian OSonOS April 22-23, Stavanger Norway

2005-03-11 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Dear friends Just sending a reminder about our 4th annual gathering in Scandinavia. The meeting is meant for "Open Spacers" who wish to develop their work with OST. And expand their network with fellows in Scandinavia. During the life of ScandOSonOS's there have been participants from non-Scandinav

accommodation

2005-03-11 Thread kerry napuk
Dear Judi Would you please be so kind to suggest a few places to stay in Halifax that are within walking distance of the venue? Many thanks. Cheers Kerry Open Futures Edinburgh * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -

trust?

2005-03-11 Thread kerry napuk
Hi I don't know what all this trust business is about. If trust is an issue, I feel it's more a matter of participants trusting each other to declare and share their passion and accept responsibility for doing something about it. It's easy for facilitators, because they KNOW the process works.

Re: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
What does it do to me when someone trusts me? Into what kind of a relationship am I entered into? Seems to me that I dimly but very overwhelmingly experience every now and then and especially in os-t situations the forces of selforganisation. Whether I trust them or not they do manifest themselves

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-11 Thread Harrison Owen
Therese -- when you go around in circles (or spirals) who knows where you will come out. I don't think anybody has accused Ken Wilber of creating Spiral Dynamics. And just to display my own biases (critical judgment?), why would he want to when his own work, in my humble opinion, is above, beyond,

Re: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Harrison Owen
Diane Wrote: "So trusting the principles includes trusting the people and vice versa." How about "trusting (knowing) that the people embody the principles even if they don't know it, and most especially - even if they would rather not (embody the principles)." Our job then becomes one of provid

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-11 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
I apologize, Harrison, if my comment sounded like a criticism of Wilber. It was not intended to be. As I stated, since Wilber and Spiral Dynamics were referenced in the same breath in a discussion about research, I wanted to MILDLY caution that the Wilber/Beck 'take' on Spiral Dynamics is not the

Re: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Glory Ressler
Great thread everyone! So - from all your comments - I am wondering... Is it advisable to sell 'trusting the process of the people' more than the process of OST - if we are 'selling' anything? Take good care of yourselves and each other, Glory 'If it isn't a happy ending, our story isn't over ye

Re: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Susan Smyth
Hi all- I did Open Space with a utility in St. Louis this week. I definitely can attest that what was required and what happened had to do with trusting the people. We had field and call center and managers and supervisors in the 100+ people there. All could justifiably pointed fingers. I trus

A short introduction

2005-03-11 Thread Tom Tuddenham
Hello all I don't know if this is the norm on this list, but I thought I might briefly introduce myself and detail my interest in open space. I have Alan Stewart to thank for getting me interested in this list. His posts of a thread on open source to my personal mailbox piqued my curiousity. As

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-11 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
Just a small response to Larry's passing comment about "Ken Wilber and Spiral Dynamics". Ken Wilber did not develop the Spiral Dynamics (SD) model and his use of Spiral Dynamics has revealed a bit of a schism in SD circles. Since the topic is 'research', I just felt a mile need to clarify that Ke

Re: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 3/11/05 6:06:36 AM, hho...@comcast.net writes: > "Trust the Process" is, and has been, the mantra of group work for as long > as I can remember, and when the words were spoken, my head started to nod > along with all the rest. But suddenly my head stopped - mid-nod, so to > sp

Defining OS in an Invitation

2005-03-11 Thread Martin Giannini
Well I don't prefer to do this at all and usually don't. But the sponsors have said: "- The definition of OST (OST is a way of enabling people to have inspired meetings. It has been called intentional self-organisation, evolution in organisation, and a simple, powerful way to get people and org

Re: A short introduction

2005-03-11 Thread Lucas Gonzalez
--- Tom Tuddenham wrote: > open space offers the > possibility of accelerating the commercial development of open source > projects and that a company focussing on open source solutions could > manage its day-to-day operations and decision making using open space > techniques. > if there are other

FW: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Diane Gibeault
Hi, I think trusting the principles includes trusting the people and trusting the people leads us to behave according to the principles. This may be a question of the chicken and the egg. It may not really matter which comes first as long as they are understood. I was explaining OST in an OD mee

Re: Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Jack Ricchiuto
Harrison, full alignment here. Would it be equally accurate to say that in OS, we are trusting both the principles and the people? I ask simply from the observation, working with facilitators over the years, that for some, the lack of (what I would call appreciative) principles lead to more emph

Trust the Process OR Trust the People?

2005-03-11 Thread Harrison Owen
Several evenings ago I was invited to participate in a group considering "Strategic Planning in a Self-Organizing world." The topic really interested me and I was hoping for a great discussion. As it turned out, we had a great discussion, but the focus turned to Open Space which I suppose was under

Re: A short introduction

2005-03-11 Thread Harrison Owen
Tom -- Welcome! As to your particular interest, I have often said that the first software group (company whatever) that seriously engaged in Open Space will redefine the market place. The reason is simple -- the speed and efficiencies that are an everyday experience in Open Space will simply blow a