>> if we could invite more and more simple breakouts around the world. more
>> parties, not less!
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>>
>>
>>> These are things I've thought about for many years, and found few ripe
>>> openings to discuss, i
osonos
>> anywhere for some years. So I can appreciate how somebody newer to the mix
>> might feel frustrated having made an investment to join and then come to
>> the conclusion that we're as deep in our habits and rituals as any other
>> exclus
dy newer to the mix
>>> might feel frustrated having made an investment to join and then come to
>>> the conclusion that we're as deep in our habits and rituals as any other
>>> exclusive organization. More frustrating because we always seem to say
>>> otherwise. Havi
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>
>
>
> What if?
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>
> Yep what if?
>
that's what i want to find out!
>
>
> Michael
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> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
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> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://
re than one language
> and the break out spaces being animal pictures as we couldn't stick things on
> the floor.
>
>>
>>
>> What if?
>
> Yep what if?
>
>
>> Michael
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>>
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>> Michael Her
ways
>>
>> 1. Mental movement (try to change yourself, focus and be fully
>> present, maybe you are missing something important here) – thanks Jan-Erik
>> for this perspective during NOSonOS in august!
>>
>> 2. “Intervention” into what you don’t
thanks, lisa... just a couple quick clarifications...
i know osonos hosts are not pre-determined, and was just saying that to
newcomers it might look that way, when we arrive with invitation materials.
it didn't used to be that way and i was just suggesting that we consider
what is the best way o
Hi, all.
I cannot comment on or imagine what Paul feels. He is not here to say
so. But I welcome that you are sharing, Michael, how you feel.
Not that you need me to welcome it ;o) but I just wanted to say I
appreciate your sharing your thoughts and feelings about this.
About hosting OSonOSs
>
> **2. **“Intervention” into what you don’t enjoy, for example if you
> find the break out group too large – say it!
>
> **3. **Leave and go somewhere else.
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers
>
> Thomas Herrmann****
>
> ** **
>
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Koos...for me the law of two feet is about passion and responsibility. If you
care about something, take care of it.
Paul may have felt that
Thank you Chris, I get your point. Very clear. I agree with you now.
Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Koos
At 07:12 23-10-2012, Chris Corrigan wrote:
Koos...for me the law of two feet is about passion and
responsibility. If you care about something, take care of it.
Paul may have fel
Koos...for me the law of two feet is about passion and responsibility. If you
care about something, take care of it.
Paul may have felt that he was "taking care of it" when he produced his
critiques of the event in London. Possibly. But my experience is that many
people are comfortable just
Thank you Koos!
I like the ³to invite a voice that might otherwise go unspoken². I¹ll try to
translate it into Swedish but I¹m afraid that some of the gentleness and
poetry will be lost.
Pernilla
Den 2012-10-21 18.50, skrev "Koos de Heer" :
> Dear Pernilla,
>
> Thank you for sharing your obs
Having been on the hosting team for OSonOS IX, I echo what you write here
Phelim…I sometimes equated my experience of opening space for all of my
colleagues as "telling jokes to comedians." It's not easy, but it's fun and
once you've done it - as Michael Herman said to me - "you're in deep."
Dear Pernilla,
Thank you for sharing your observations.
I agree with what you write about the Law of Two Feet and I have experimented
with the way I explain it in my introductions.
After explaining what the Law of two Feet is, I usually say that folks of
course have the opportunity to just ge
Raffi,
Sorry this last message went before I intended so it has an abrupt end which I
will elaborate on at another time.
love
Phelim x
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Hi Raffi,
Nice to hear from you I missed you at WOSonOs.
Truth be told it is confusing. Paul's critique is one of the Wosonos event..
and the style.. but also of the collective community. Which he then generalises
outward.. so some of the things he talks about could be my style or perhaps
man
folks,
i wasn't there and i read paul's post and truth be told I don't quite
understand what exactly took place at WOSonOS that was different that he didn't
like.
Can anyone explain what is the substance of the criticism?
What prevents anyone from doing something outside of sessions??
What wou
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Phelim,
(...) Artur and I already tried to invite him to bring this
to the OSList. I think Paul
I have a tendency to get stuck in polarisations, and it is seldom a
productive way forward - if that¹s the way I want to go.
I enjoy reading your reflections on if Open Space Technology is imprisoned
or not and I¹ll try to keep my awareness on not ending up in good/bad,
prison/freedom, structure/ch
My first impression is that Paul is unnecessarily harsh and inconsiderate in
his writings. When even the title of the piece speaks of "imprisonment" it
seems to completely ignore the love and the great intentions that went into
Wosonos this year. As Chris wrote, this does not help.
Having said
Michael
What I mean by the client comment is..
I did not consider the people to be coming to be clients. I considered the
event to be a gathering of people who are fellow practitioners who already are
interested in sharing wisdom about OpenSpace. It was also the 20th year so
definitely a cele
Hi Chris,
I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say that the law of two feet
applies. If it means as much as "This is Open Space, love it or leave it," I
feel compelled to say that I don't support that.
Of course I can walk out of a session if I am feeling that I am neither
learn
i skimmed paul's pieces. i agreed with much of the substance and was glad
somebody was saying it. chris read and commented much more carefully, so i
wouldn't try to add to his notes about that. i'm only jumping in now
because of the questions phelim raises.
first, about bringing clients to oson
Phelim,
First of all my profound and deep thanks. It was very hard to make it to
London but my experience was one of magic, lots of love, camaraderie,
inspiration, and seeing things come true that I had only hoped would
come to pass. My experiences there were worth many times the dollars I
sp
Chris
I agree with you. I'm fine with the critique. Different strokes for different
folks.
I think the difficulty is what you pinpoint. It's hard to reply and have a
constructive conversation when it's not directly addressed to myself and the
hosting team and seems like a veiled passive aggre
The critique in the article is fine. And the subsequent link Phelim sent along
is fine too. Paul's tone is a bit jarring and his argument isn't helped by
making a lot of generalized statements. Also he critiques WOSonOS in a way that
makes it hard to separate his critique if the event from a cri
Thanks Alan,
And just in case we didn't get it the first time...
http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/20/over-control-and-open-space/
Ouch
Best regards,
Phelim
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Just spent a delicious three days co-learning with Peggy Holman here in Perth
then I read this -
So, what's possible now?
http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-tragic-re-imprisonment-of-open-space/
take care out there
alan
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