Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-29 Thread mike smith
the teflon pads wear fast. (or you brick them by using the wrong OS to update the firmware (x64 instead of x86 )) > > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 August 2013

RE: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-28 Thread Nathan Chere
tical/laser/etc sensor). From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 4:26 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Developer keyboard On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Nathan Chere mailto:nathan.ch...@saiglobal.com>>

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-27 Thread mike smith
zdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Richards > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 August 2013 3:06 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Developer keyboard > > ** ** > > Greetings all, > > ** ** > > I don't mean to

RE: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-27 Thread Nathan Chere
et Subject: Re: [OT] Developer keyboard Greetings all, I don't mean to resurrect this thread (especially since I already have my new keyboard) but I just saw this post which was an interesting coincidence: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/08/the-code-keyboard.html Thought some

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-27 Thread David Richards
Greetings all, I don't mean to resurrect this thread (especially since I already have my new keyboard) but I just saw this post which was an interesting coincidence: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/08/the-code-keyboard.html Thought some of you might be interested. David "If we can hit th

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread Stephen Price
Careful looking/listening to things on YouTube. Last week a guy here at work was freaking out about the back light leakage on these fancy new IPS screens. I never noticed it, but when I took a photo of it with my phone camera the backlight was quite noticeable. I guess the camera takes in lots of l

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread David Richards
It's louder than the "Microsoft Digital Media Keyboard 1.0a" I was using before. It sounds very similar to that video. It's a bit hard to tell if its louder or not since it kind of depended on how loud I set the volume :) But if it has the same switches its probably the same. It's much quieter

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Gfader
Nice keyboard! How loud is it? I bought the "daskeyboard ultimate silent" and I am not so happy with it. I got the silent one, but it is still too loud. I use it at home where no one else sits in my home office, but doing remote pairing or calls is not a nice experience... Here how loud that "sil

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread David Richards
I got it from mighty ape on sale but I'm pretty sure I saw it for similar prices elsewhere. The link below is for a cyborg branded one which is the same thing. mad catz own the cyborg brand. http://www.mightyape.com.au/product/Cyborg-MMO7-Gaming-Mouse/19700928/ David "If we can hit that bullse

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread Stephen Price
Where did you buy the mouse from? Looking about on my normal online stores, can't find that particular model. cheers, Stephen On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM, mike smith wrote: > It's the 'transformers' look. It doubles as a backup drive. > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Stephen Price

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2013-08-20 Thread osjasonroberts
Cool, thanks David 😊 Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts From: David Richards Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎21‎ ‎August‎ ‎2013 ‎11‎:‎37‎ ‎AM To: ozDotNet Jason, The mouse is adjustabl

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread mike smith
It's the 'transformers' look. It doubles as a backup drive. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Stephen Price wrote: > Slick looking mouse. *want* > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, David Richards < > ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote: > >> Just an epilogue for those that are interested. I

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread Stephen Price
A heavier mouse would help with your Right BICEP. :) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM, David Richards < ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote: > Jason, > > The mouse is adjustable. The palm rest comes in two heights and can slide > in and out to suite. The thumb part with the buttons can be ad

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread David Richards
Jason, The mouse is adjustable. The palm rest comes in two heights and can slide in and out to suite. The thumb part with the buttons can be adjusted forwards and backwards. The pinky rest can be removed. There are other models where the thumb part can also tilt outward but I read somewhere th

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread osjasonroberts
That mouse looks like some crazy borg-transformers love-child 😉 Like the idea of programmable buttons though, any good for big-handed oafs like me? Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonrobert

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2013-08-20 Thread Stephen Price
Slick looking mouse. *want* On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, David Richards < ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote: > Just an epilogue for those that are interested. I've got my new mouse and > keyboard set up and have been using it for a couple of days. The closer > mouse is much more comforta

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-20 Thread David Richards
Just an epilogue for those that are interested. I've got my new mouse and keyboard set up and have been using it for a couple of days. The closer mouse is much more comfortable and the keys on the new keyboard are very nice to type on. The separate wireless number pad is quite good too. I'm qui

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-18 Thread Grant Maw
nt Maw > *Sent:* Thursday, 15 August 2013 2:00 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Developer keyboard > > ** ** > > You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but > they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look after > t

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread les
Test the browns and the blues if you can. The blues are louder, but I feel they give a much better experience. YMMV :) -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au Quoting David Richards : Thanks Les, that looks pretty good. Going by reviews it might be exactly what I'm looking for. Although I'd get

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread David Richards
Thanks Les, that looks pretty good. Going by reviews it might be exactly what I'm looking for. Although I'd get the brown switches as I prefer not to have any clicking sound. If the keys feel good to use I'll be happy. And a place nearby sells them for $149. I think I'll go get one :) David

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread David Richards
I've done some more searching. I can't believe it never occurred to me to include "compact" as a keyword when searching for these keyboards. Has anyone used either of these keyboards? http://shopap.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/auweb/LenovoPortal/en_AU/integration.workflow:ProductDisplayIt

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread les
Heya David, I've tried and own many keyboards (bit of a junkie). I have a couple of Microsoft Ergonomic ones, I've tried a few mechanical ones, and I've also got a few weirdish ones (microsoft arc, kenesis freestyle split keyboard (split down the middle as two x half keyboards)). My favou

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread Thomas Koster
Hi list, On 15 August 2013 12:46, David Richards wrote: > I actually get more discomfort from the mouse than I do from the keyboard. > Same here. I get a cramped mousehand when gaming sometimes. Time for a break then. On 15 August 2013 13:08, mike smith wrote: > > Re ergonomic. Try it for a

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
I had a mechanical keyboard many years ago and from memory, it required a harder tap on the keys. Plus it was noisy. Unless they have changed in recent years (which is likely) I'd be worried about it slowing me down, requiring harder tapping or just generally being annoying in the office. I migh

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
Mike, I saw it on arstechnica. I didn't think it was even out yet. If it wasn't ergonomic, I'd get it as soon as it was available. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 15 August 2013 14:05,

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Wallace Turner
>das keyboard mechanical keyboards http://www.daskeyboard.com/product/model-s-ultimate/ these are especially fun when you want to check you got a password correct :) For fun, I would like to see them remove the F1 key from this model (useless help) and the scroll lock key, (sry teracopy)

RE: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Greg Low (Old POP Address)
et.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Grant Maw Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013 2:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Developer keyboard You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look afte

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
That compact keyboard looks pretty good. Although it looks like a replacement for a laptop rather than a separate keyboard. There are no wasted keys and the keys it has seem at least mostly in the right places. Something like that with nice keys would be good. I've yet to find one though. The

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Joseph Cooney
I am a big fan of the das keyboard mechanical keyboards. I have 2, one for home, one for work. Slight preference for the older II series. On 15 Aug 2013 13:59, "Grant Maw" wrote: > You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but > they are solid, well built, and will la

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread mike smith
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote: > Hi David, > > I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I > always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft. > I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once > you get used you'll

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
We have a Microsoft Natural 400 in the office. I don't like it. it doesn't fit my typing style. Apart from using my left hand for most of my typing, I suspect part of my problem with ergonomic keyboards is a bit of RSI in the first knuckle of my index fingers. I consequently don't use these for

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Grant Maw
You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look after them. My (non-touch) typing has improved by a factor of 2, and I was pretty fast before this. Look at Armor for a wireless one or SteelSeries for a w

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Wallace Turner
Do not accept that the ergonomic keyboard will make your life easier. I used one for well over a year before I realised I hated it. its too big, its inconvenient. when debugging step out is a pain in the neck as I'm used to using my left hand alone to do this (Shift-11) as my right hand is on the m

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Hi David, I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft. I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once you get used you'll never want to go back. I'm currently using the Microsoft Natural 400

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread mike smith
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards < ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote: > A bit off topic and a bit on topic. I've been in the market for a good > developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like. I > was just wondering if others on this list had found a dece

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
I don't know about anyone else but for me, writing code doesn't require that much typing. It's mainly autocomplete, copy/paste, code navigation. It's certainly not as much as writing documentation. The few times I've used an ergonomic keyboard I found it didn't fit my needs. I actually get more

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
That's the keyboard I'm using. It's pretty good as far as keyboards go. The keys feel nice to use. All the extra buttons go unused. It also puts my mouse at least 40cm off my centre line. My arm is on what I guess is a 45 degree angle to reach it. I think reducing that will have a substantial

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Davy Jones
Ergonomic keyboards are a must as you get older. I have been using one since 2000. When i type on a normal keyboard for more than a few hours I suffer from tremendous wrist pain and can't type for hours afterwards. Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 14 août 2013, at 19:05, David Richards w

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Burstin
>> Who uses scroll lock any more? Teracopy. Uses it as a flag to decide whether to use Windows or Teracopy as the default copying mechanism. Sent from my flux capacitor. Please excuse brevity and any odd autocorrect errors. On 15/08/2013 12:05 PM, "David Richards" wrote: > A bit off topic and a

Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
On a similar note, does anyone know where you can still get "Microsoft Digital Media Keyboard 1.0a". They are still my favourite but seem not to be sold anymore. http://greengateway.home.pl/allegro//DSC_02411.JPG On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards < ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wro

[OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-14 Thread David Richards
A bit off topic and a bit on topic. I've been in the market for a good developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like. I was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard. A few qualifying points: I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one