RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Glavich
om] On Behalf Of Ben Scott Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013 2:41 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises I had the idea that `CreateInstanceAndUnwrap` and `MarshalByRef` used remoting under the covers, any marshalled objects needed to stick to what remoting supports.

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2013-02-04 Thread Ben Scott
zdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Scott > *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 February 2013 12:02 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises > > ** ** > > In the MarkPad Code52 project I was using remoting to implement appdomains > for plugins, s

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Glavich
et Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises In the MarkPad Code52 project I was using remoting to implement appdomains for plugins, so that plugins couldn't crash the editor. It didn't work, probably due to my inexperience, but it seemed like remoting is still the status q

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2013-02-04 Thread Ben Scott
** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > **- **Glav > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Katherine Moss > *Sent:* Monday, 4 February 2013 5:11 PM > *To:* ozDo

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2013-02-04 Thread Katherine Moss
x27;ozDotNet' Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises Nope. Remoting is a way to marshal objects across a boundary whether that be appDomain (2 separate appDomains on the same machine) or a network boundary (machine 1 to machine 2). It looks and operates very much like DCOM if

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2013-02-04 Thread Paul Glavich
ure others can highlight for you. - Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013 5:11 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises Now, remi

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2013-02-03 Thread Katherine Moss
Now, remind me. Is System.Net.EnterpriseServices the same as System.NET.Remoting? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:21 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

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2013-02-03 Thread mike smith
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Paul Glavich wrote: > At the risk of being argumentative, we asked for this. Maybe not you or me > specifically, but the community at large has. I agree the number of > technologies at play, particularly in this space is large but it makes it > all the more **intere

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2013-02-03 Thread Greg Keogh
Apparently the .NET remoting documentation has been removed and you have to hunt around in the archives for it now (I haven't looked myself), so that's probably a hint about being out-of-date. However, I have a sentimental feeling for remoting as we have an intensely used client-server app out ther

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2013-02-03 Thread Paul Glavich
5:25 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises I thought that .net remoting is kind of out-of-date and shouldn't be used because of all of the new technologies. Or is it out-of-date? And now you're making me question my plans for my first Open Source project th

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2013-02-03 Thread Katherine Moss
Glavich Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:10 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises At the risk of being argumentative, we asked for this. Maybe not you or me specifically, but the community at large has. I agree the number of technologies at play, pa

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2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
phen Price Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013 11:52 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises I must be getting old too Greg. Your rants are starting to make sense. I'm even nodding my head as I read. I've said it before, they invent this stuff faster than

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2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
f Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013 9:28 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Paul Glavich mailto:subscripti...@theglavs.com> > wrote: Webapi is a reaction to attitudes as described below. [ ... ]

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2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Davy Jones Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013 9:49 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises I must be getting old. XML-rpc (simple XML http) XML-soap complex ish Wcf. Really complex Rest/Jason complex ish Web API simple A full turn of the

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2013-02-01 Thread Stephen Price
I must be getting old too Greg. Your rants are starting to make sense. I'm even nodding my head as I read. I've said it before, they invent this stuff faster than anyone can learn it. Lets hope its heading in the right direction. For the children's sake. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Greg Keog

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2013-02-01 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I'm pleased to see that other people here are irritated by the number of choices we have for communication and by the complexity of WCF. I was also pleased to see someone else was bewlidered by having WebAPI buried inside MVC and found a way of starting with a managable skeleton project. Lu

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2013-02-01 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Paul Glavich wrote: > Webapi is a reaction to attitudes as described below. > > [ ... ] > Ofcourse WCF can do REST too, you just have to twiddle a few hundred > different knobs on the right way. I would argue WCF is not bullshit. WCF > comprises way more than

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2013-02-01 Thread Katherine Moss
m] On Behalf Of Davy Jones Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:49 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises I must be getting old. XML-rpc (simple XML http) XML-soap complex ish Wcf. Really complex Rest/Jason complex ish Web API simple A full turn of the wheel in 12 year

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2013-02-01 Thread Davy Jones
bject:* SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote: ASP.NET WebAPI seems to be the new hotness. I don't have much experience with WCF, but everyone I talk to says it is too heavy and complicated. WebAPI tries to simplify things.

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
development life continues... - Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013 9:10 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:23 AM

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2013-01-31 Thread Grant Maw
I'd be interested in hearing any experiences of those using ServiceStack. It seems like a great platform - anyone care to share their experiences with it? Cheers Grant On 1 February 2013 08:28, William Luu wrote: > Also have a look into servicestack.net > > http://www.servicestack.net/mythz_b

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2013-01-31 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote: > ASP.NET WebAPI seems to be the new hotness. I don't have much experience > with WCF, but everyone I talk to says it is too heavy and complicated. > WebAPI tries to simplify things. WCF is a bunch of bullshit. People who use it just do

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2013-01-31 Thread Ken Schaefer
http://xkcd.com/927/ Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013 8:53 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: WCF service best practises They've been flogging WebAPI in recent MSDN magazines, but I go

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2013-01-31 Thread Greg Keogh
They've been flogging WebAPI in recent MSDN magazines, but I got the impression that it's just REST more formalised with contracts. Perhaps this makes sense from the hints I've been reading. WCF is heavy and complicated and over-engineered to be general purpose (which is fine and I've benefited fr

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2013-01-31 Thread Andrew McGrath
t; Subject: Re: WCF service best practises ASP.NET WebAPI seems to be the new hotness. I don't have much experience with WCF, but everyone I talk to says it is too heavy and complicated. WebAPI tries to simplify things. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Greg Keogh wrote: What

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2013-01-31 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
ASP.NET WebAPI seems to be the new hotness. I don't have much experience with WCF, but everyone I talk to says it is too heavy and complicated. WebAPI tries to simplify things. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Greg Keogh wrote: > What about the death of WCF as everything else in the modern >>

Re: WCF service best practises

2013-01-31 Thread Greg Keogh
> > What about the death of WCF as everything else in the modern technological > landscape seems to be dying? Is WCF another one? > Everything that dies has to be replaced in some form or another. If WCF is dying, what's its replacement? If I want to publicly expose my .NET "service" over the wi

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2013-01-31 Thread Katherine Moss
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:08 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: WCF service best practises Folks, I have created the stub of a WCF service that I've sanity checked is working okay when hosted in IIS, Azure, a Windows Service and even the co

WCF service best practises

2013-01-30 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I have created the stub of a WCF service that I've sanity checked is working okay when hosted in IIS, Azure, a Windows Service and even the command promt. It will be consumed by desktop apps and Silverlight. The initial code came out of the VS2012 new project template and I just started addi