RE: [ozmidwifery] virus alert - DO NOT OPEN "BIRTH STORY?"

2002-10-03 Thread Karen Arthur
Yes - do not open "birth story?" - I did not send it.  You will notice the attachment symbol - these shouldn't be opened in any case.  My virus softwear picked up a few infected files yesterday and I have disposed of them appropriately.    Karen Arthur -Original Message-From: [E

[ozmidwifery] Re virus

2002-10-03 Thread Penny Barrett
Norton antivirus just detected a 'Bugbear' virus in a message called 'Sales' - with an attachment. Thankfully it didn't let me open even the email. PennyB. Penelope A. Barrett RN, CM, PhD, BEd(Nurs.), FRCNA, FCN(NSW), MACM Lecturer (Midwife

Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alert

2002-10-03 Thread DebSlater
Denise Apparently the bugbear worm uses the address book of an infected computer to send itself out, so the attachment will look as if it's come from person A, when it has really sent out from person B.  E.g. B has the email address of A in its address book.  Bugbear sends out emails, with the wor

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Yes, absolutely.   - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!) I agree, BUT there are ways and ways of discussing.. -

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2002-10-03 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear List,   For interest   www.gentlebirth.org/nwnm.org/nwnm_org.html     Liz

Re: [ozmidwifery] hi there _ question regarding induction

2002-10-03 Thread Lynne Staff
Hi Mary - do you know when the women are given these consent forms? ie antenatally, or just before an intended procedure? Are they discussed in birth education classes? This is interesting and I agree - well done KEMH. In QLD there was such a hoo ha about the use of water during labour and birth

Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Matters coffee morning, Adelaide

2002-10-03 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Title: Message Oh, Goody, Tania!   I had the car fixed today -- 4th spark plug clogged up. Good Old Margaret, the 1975 Toyota Corona is purring! (I'm sure Tom will be pleased!)   Gearing up for my show on October 18th. Thought about going off the list for a couple of weeks, but I'm enjoying

Re: [ozmidwifery] hi

2002-10-03 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Hi, Liz, thank you. I enjoyed meeting you and your gorgeous littlies too. Look forward to seeing you again. Aviva - Original Message - From: ec newnham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hi Hi Aviva, it was lovely to meet you last

Re: [ozmidwifery] hi there _ question regarding induction

2002-10-03 Thread Mary Murphy
Jackie, the labour will be more efficient (and less harmful) if the natural hormones work in the right sequence. We only have one synthetic hormone, sytocinon to FORCE the uterus to work in induction. If prostaglandin gel is used to soften the cervix, there are other complications possible (som

Re: [ozmidwifery] NMAP

2002-10-03 Thread Vernon at Stringybark
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] NMAP Dear Penny, thanks for this feedback on the NMAP.  I've passed it on to the editorial committee that spent many late nights and weekends putting NMAP together over the past year.  It's good to hear that the document can be useful in ways we'd not thought of.   Bar

Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alert

2002-10-03 Thread Denise Hynd
Thank you I do not understand this stuff my checker missed it But now says there was one!!Denise - Original Message - From: Sandra J. Eales To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] virus alert There was a virus atta

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread Lynne Staff
Another thing you can do is encourage the woman to go to the Health Rights Commission as an avenue to discuss the way in which she was treated - disgusting. The outcome was good, but what happened in the meantime is not, and the HRC can help there by getting in touch with the doctor and disc

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread Lynne Staff
I agree, BUT there are ways and ways of discussing.. - Original Message - From: elizabeth mcalpine To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!) Jo, you did great -  as

Re: [ozmidwifery] Byron Bay

2002-10-03 Thread Lynne Staff
You're welcome - Original Message - From: Mrs joanne m fisher To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Byron Bay Thanks very much Lynne, Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread Lynne Staff
I can't imagine how it would have been for her had you not been there Jo..obviously, you were the one who was meant to be with her at this time. Stay strong, and stay open, so you can soak up these experiences and use them in other ways. - Original Message - From: JoFromO

[ozmidwifery] virus

2002-10-03 Thread Jo & Dean Bainbridge
I am getting emails that are being caught by my virus check, they are all attachments but all have titles that have been on the ozmid list previously for eg "vbac petition".  Just beware of anything with attachments even if the author is known and the subject title familiar. cheers Jo Bainbr

Re: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis & Antibiotics

2002-10-03 Thread Jo Slamen
Dear Joy and Mary, Thanks for your help and advice regarding homoepathy and acidophilus and bifidus. Crisis averted - all remains happy and no antibiotics - yay. Your info will remain my primary treatment line of attack in future - since I'm a little prone to this kind of thing. Jo -- This ma

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread JoFromOz
Thankyou so much everyone for your overwhelming support!   As for the making a complaint against the doctor suggestion, I spoke to the woman yesterday, and appologised for how she was treated.  She was able to fend for herself though... after I had left that night, she was sutured by the sam

Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alert

2002-10-03 Thread MHS Grové
Hi Mary Definitely Ozlist I have received I think about 4 dont belong to Birth News Hettie GroveRN.RM.RCN.RNA.RNT.ICCE. South Africa027-083-2260709Fax 027-011-7409715 - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:48

RE: [ozmidwifery] hi there _ question regarding induction

2002-10-03 Thread Jaqueline Marwick
Hello all Thanks Judy, Sally, Jo and Mary for your replies Today I was told my due date is tomorrow (rather than yesterday), and the doctor hopes my baby will come naturally by the weekend. Otherwise he will insist on induction, I am sure. He fears that, being a big one, my baby could possibly h

Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alert

2002-10-03 Thread Pinky McKay
Viruses - so have I , Thankfully, stopped/ restored. Pinky - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alert I have been getting heaps of virus's stopped by my vi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis & Antibiotics

2002-10-03 Thread Joy Cocks
Dear Jo, It sounds as if it is an inflammatory mastitis rather than infective at this stage, in which case I would suggest holding off the antibiotics. If you can keep the area of the breast well-drained, hopefully it will resolve without any infection. Antibiotics bring their own set of problem

Re: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD

2002-10-03 Thread Mrs joanne m fisher
Thanks Anne, yes could you give me her details. Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: "Ann green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD Dear Joanne, Her clinic

Re: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD

2002-10-03 Thread Mrs joanne m fisher
Thanks Leigh, Do you have her contact details at all? Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Leigh Evans To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD Hi Jo, K

Re: [ozmidwifery] NMAP

2002-10-03 Thread Dr Penelope A Barrett
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] NMAP I agree about the power behind NMAP. I have passed its reference and relevance on to a couple of hundred 3rd year general nursing students (doing a family health unit of study), a class of Grad. Dip. Mid. Students, and six Master of Mid. Students (the latter who, w

Re: [ozmidwifery] Byron Bay

2002-10-03 Thread Mrs joanne m fisher
Thanks very much Lynne, Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Byron Bay Hi  Joanne email NSW Midwives Assoc on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and they will

Re: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD

2002-10-03 Thread Mrs joanne m fisher
Thanks Vicki, Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: "Vicki Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD > Karen Adcock is on the Sunny Coast.. > > > -- > Thi

Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alert

2002-10-03 Thread Mary Murphy
I have been getting heaps of virus's stopped by my virus alert thank goodness.  I think they are coming both from the Ozmid list and Birthnews list.  MM - Original Message - From: Sandra J. Eales To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:18 PM Subj

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery advocacy

2002-10-03 Thread Sandra J. Eales
You are right Leanne we should use every opportunity to talk about this to those people who it does and will affect. They have a right to the real information and we have a responsibility to "spread the word". The system will only get changed by this type of grass roots activism. We should be t

Re: [ozmidwifery] NMAP

2002-10-03 Thread Sandra J. Eales
Liz We felt a little bit out of it up here in North Queensland as well so we had a little stall in the local shopping centre and passed out pamplets (adapted from the FAQs& Answers that Denise recently posted on the list) and collected signatures for the petition.  I am also going to speak t

[ozmidwifery] virus alert

2002-10-03 Thread Sandra J. Eales
There was a virus attached to posting from Denise "RANCOG on NMAP"   virus name "WORM_BUGBEAR.A"    

Re: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis & Antibiotics

2002-10-03 Thread Mary Murphy
Are you familiar with homeopathics? It sounds like you need a remedy called Belladonna. It would be best to contact a homoepath in your area there is also a remedy available freely in health food stores and many pharmacies which stock homoeopathic remedies(here in W.A.) called "Antinplex" or

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Jo, you did great -  as did the couple!!! early decelerations due to head compression are of less concern than late, as you know, and in a multi who will dilate quickly the stress put on all of you is just about typical of hospital and medicalised birth. I just hate the panic sometimes too -

[ozmidwifery] hi

2002-10-03 Thread ec newnham
Hi Aviva, it was lovely to meet you last weekend. I was the one with the two little boys. Glad to hear you're back in the world of birth and babies. love, Liz. 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Birth Issues - Reference please!!

2002-10-03 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 3/10/02 6:15:15 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Tina! It's Birth Issues Volume 1 1 No2/3 2002 pages 60-61 Titled Musings from Bachelor of Midwifery Students "With Childbearing Woman" By Tina Pettigrew, Bachelor of Midwifery Student, Victoria Universi

[ozmidwifery] Mastitis & Antibiotics

2002-10-03 Thread Jo Slamen
Hi All, Today I have had a hard breastfeeding day with breast lumpiness gone mad. Baby, massage, pumping and heat would not shift a 10cm+ disc of hard terrain on my left breast. So saw a GP this arvo and she sent me for ultrasound at the physio which softened a little. I came home and fed the n

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-03 Thread Mary Murphy
You all know "where" I come from, but I can see that the hospital staff were genuinely frightened for the baby's wellbeing.  Those decells can be really scary, but I don't see any point in distressing  a baby further by hurting it's head with a FSE. They don't change the outcome.  People reac

[ozmidwifery] Birth Matters coffee morning, Adelaide

2002-10-03 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
Title: Message   For anyone interested, everyone welcome!   Cheers,   Tania       Birth Matters   Coffee or tea Mornings     Join us, to discuss bellies, birth, babies, breasts and beyond       Thursday October 10th   10am-12 noon.      Join us for a shared discussion on     Hos

[ozmidwifery] Re: Birth Issues - Reference please!!

2002-10-03 Thread Larissa & Tim
Hi Tina! It's Birth Issues Volume 1 1 No2/3 2002 pages 60-61 Titled Musings from Bachelor of Midwifery Students "With Childbearing Woman" By Tina Pettigrew, Bachelor of Midwifery Student, Victoria University, Australia - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EM