[ozmidwifery] Fw: [ukmidwifery] MIDWIFERY MATTERS Summer issue - Overseas submissions please

2005-03-03 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
FYI - Original Message - From: Ishbel Kargar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Overseas Friends The Summer MIDWIFERY MATTERS is to be an Overseas issue. I have written separately to ARM members overseas, asking for articles, reports etc., but I realise that we have many non-UK subscribers to

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread gresch
I have to agree there. My memories of my husband and I being taught how to bath our first child (6 yrs ago) are embarassing. I hadn't ever bathed a baby before, but to be told that today we will take you down and teach you how, it clearly was a messge that we weren't capable. Then the

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Pauline
When i first went back to work 5 years ago i got in trouble for showing a woman the wrong way to bath her baby. Instead of wrapping the baby and washing his face and hair, soaping him up then putting him in the bath, i (heaven forbid) put him straight in the bath. This was much to the horror

RE: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Nicole Hmelnitsky
I agree. I think that the benefit of educating a couple on bathing their baby is actually just helping them feel comfortable with holding their baby, rather than the bath technique head first etc etc, because they really don't need much washing. Another benefit is advising that a bath is

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Philippa Scott
I realise that this is not what you where asking for but I mentioned to our group today that when thinking about their baby plan the bathing policies that they could choose if they wanted to, to shower with the baby maybe even partner. For me this was a wonderful experience. I was able to clean

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread JoFromOz
Our only 'rules' are that a baby must have 3 consecutive temps above 36.5 before a bath... on the other hand, what do you do on a cold night when you can't get warm in bed? Jump in a hot shower. We had a baby who couldn't get a temp above 36 with skin to skin, or under the heater, so a

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I totally agree with you Megan and Denise. For most of us up here (Cairns) teaching the parents how to bath their baby is showing them that water immersion is actually OK and they take it from there. Of course there are the safety messages about hot water and not leaving baby alone in the bath

RE: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital
I agree with you Nicole. I usually say something like "there is only two criteria for a successful bath, 1. baby ends up clean 2. baby not drowned. Having bathed my babies in the past in the shower, under the hose etc usually gets mentioned. I focus on giving them confidence in holding the

RE: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Sylvia Boutsalis
FYI There is a clinic 'Ita Wegman Klinic' in Switzerland that actually follows the philosophy of not bathing newborns at all. When I asked further questions about their logic of not bathing they got a bit cagey, thinking I would then write in my questionaire that they were a bit strange!! I

[ozmidwifery] newborn baths

2005-03-03 Thread Tim Rochelle
What about suggesting mum and baby take a bath together, my two just loved/love a breastfeed in the bath. Giving mum a private, relaxing environment in which to hold and cuddle baby ie a warm water bath would I imagine go along way in terms of empowering, instiling confidence and bonding.

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Jenny Cameron
Re NB Bathing. For midwives we need to bear in mind the baby is covered in body fluids until after a bath. It is recommended that we observe universal precautions unitil after the baby is bathed. For parents. Safety first. Some parents do like a 'step through'. It is good to ask first.

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Barry Sonja
I work in an area with policies on how to conduct a normal birth. Even an inservice coming up on "How to conduct a normal delivery!" This is hysterical, admittedly I will not be attending. To make it even better the "midwife" conducting the inservice believes that any babies born not on the

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Denise Hynd
Megan said Babies smell just beautiful all on their own, the Johnson and Johnson smell just gets in the way of this, not to mention the sensitivity these tiny new darlings are dealing with. Providing women with an option and explaining that not bathing their baby all the time is perfectly fine

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Tania Smallwood
This has been a really interesting discussion, and it's prompted me to think about the kinds of information we give to women, and when we start to assume the role of educator, overseer, teacher, one of authority, or whether we maintain the role of facilitator, and how that has an effect on

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

2005-03-03 Thread Denise Hynd
I think the fact that the baby is covered in body fluids until after a bath. Should mean that It is recommended that we encourage the mother only to handle herbaby. Denise Hynd "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to