: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:50
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage
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At our hospital when a 3rd stage is 'actively managed' it
means 30 units of synto in a 500ml bag of CSL is run through at 240ml/hr after
the usual syntometrine jab in the leg. It has become
]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage
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Hi Denise,
I actually talked about
this topic and informed choice in an essay for one of my subjects at the
beginning of the year (for the Grad. Dip. of Mid.), in which i did quite well
in. Where I have done my placements this year
At our hospital when a 3rd stage is 'actively managed' it
means 30 units of synto in a 500ml bag of CSL is run through at 240ml/hr after
the usual syntometrine jab in the leg. It has become such routine that
syntometrine isn't really considered active management anymore.
Jo
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AAGH!
"At our hospital when a
3rd stage is 'actively managed' it means 30 units of synto in a 500ml bag of CSL
is run through at 240ml/hr after the usual syntometrine jab in the leg. It
has become such routine that syntometrine isn't really considered active
management anymore.Jo"
Wow Jo: what evidence is this based
on??
marilyn
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At our hospital when a 3rd stage is 'actively managed
That is used for women who are grand multi's or history of
PPH.
HTH.
Jo
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marilyn
Hi
Denise,
birthed first baby in level 3 public hospital in Adelaide with private
obs, oxytocic given (Dr's practice), but at the same time we had asked for the
cord to stop pulsating before cut. It was never expalined to me that my baby
would receive so much of this drug due to our choice
Where
did that man get his statistics? If it applied to my practice I would have
dead women all over the place! MM
.'" He
told me that 10-15% of women that don't have the injection die from PPH..
"
Hi Denise
I work in a private hospital where information
regarding normal birth is shared in childbirth education classes. This is often
the only time that the women hear about an alternative to active management. All
the Obs practice active management unless challenged by their clients. We
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback
Hi Denise,
Obviously in my practice in attendance at homebirths I offer normal physiological third stage. In over 200 homebirths I have given synto 3 times, with no maternal transfers for blood loss.
At Mullumbimby Hospital, which is a level 1A
In one hospital in Brisbane, not much is done to
inform women before they are about to recieve oxytocics unless they happened to
go to antenatal class where they are informed that it is given to help the
placenta come away and that's that!!!
However in the favour of some midwives I have
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Where did that man get his statistics? If it
applied to my practice I would have dead women all over the place!
MM
.'"
He to
Hi Joy,
You said: others just said something like, ' here's a little injection
to help the placenta come away'!
Another classic minifism!!!
I challenge the assumption that just because the policy says that the woman
must have oxytocics routinely that the midwife can give it without gaining
Of Mary
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Where
did that man get his statistics? If it applied to my practice I would have
dead women all over the place! MM
.'" He
told me that 10-15% of women that don't have the inje
Alesia Wrote: I dont know what info the
women recieve during their antenatal care in Obs rooms
0.01 is the answer to your query Alesa. And that
is where the problem lies.
Pregnant?
Come to my practice. I'm an Obstetrician .
I'll
The same happens where I work.
Cheers, Joanne.
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Hi Denise
I work in a private hospital where information
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Hi Joy,
You said: others just said something like, ' here's a little injection
to help the placenta come away'!
Another classic minifism
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage
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Alesia Wrote: "I dont know what info the women
recieve during their antenatal care in Obs rooms"
0.01 is the answer to your query Alesa. And that
is where the problem lies.
Hi Denise,
I actually talked about this
topic and informed choice in an essay for one of my subjects at the beginning of
the year (for the Grad. Dip. of Mid.), in which i did quite well in. Where I
have done my placements this year and will work next year as a grad (rural
Victoria), the
Hi Denise,
At our small hospital (15 - 30 births a year), just recently
it has become protocol that all women are to have the oxytocic for 3rd
stage.This is a result of doctors' request. In the past, I think I was
possibly the only midwife who spoke to them about whether or not they wanted
At the hospital where I birthed my son, one of the
questions on the birthplan list is 'Management of the afterbirth with an
oxytocic injection is recommended. Do you have any thoughts about this?'
My response was typed as this- 'I would like a physiological 3rd stage, unless
medically
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