Unfortunately C/C++ places a lot of burden to the developer which can be
avoided in other languages. And in most cases (i.e. not something like
number-crunching) most other tools are sufficient in regard to speed.
I guess the best non-C dev tools today for Palm(OS) are:
(listed in
Regis melo wrote:
I'm curious about AppForge. What You can't do with AppForge that You
need to go to Palm OS API?
I needed to start learning C, simply because there's no way to set a
Palm's (or any other supported device) time. There's much more (no
support for filestream pdbs for example),
There's also the low-cost PDA market niche, which Palm has always served
extremely well. In fact, I believe that's how the company got started: after
the commercial failure of Apple's Newton, a bunch of Apple engineers left the
company and developed something cheap but useful, and it was an
Palm OS in the actual form is dead. Access is creating
a new OS based on Linux that will run on the next generation of Palms...
But don't worry, your 68k apps will run in the same way that runs today
(using PACE).
The new apps will be based on Linux GTK library and the new OS will
came with
I think that the target is Garnet 64k apps...
Tinnus wrote:
2006/2/22, Ben Combee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ACCESS did just announce their future OS, ALP
(ACCESS Linux Platform)
which is based on Linux and runs Palm OS Garnet applications as well
as native ARM applications.There have been no
Ingbert Grimpe wrote:
Just my two cents (and playing advocatus diaboli a bit):
I'm really not a very good programmer. I'm using Appforge and the only
reason to dig deeper into PalmOS was the need to add some stuff that is
not supported by AF. For the same reason I needed to check
: Is Palm OS Going Away?
Different perspective:
The issue should not be anything other that the user experience and
efficiency. For users with vast Windows usage (i.e., the professional
person), a PPC makes perfect sense because it mimics his desktop, right
down
to oddities and fragility
At 03:15 AM 2/25/2006, Ingbert Grimpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just my two cents (and playing advocatus diaboli a bit):
( I normally don't join these conversations
(future of Palm OS, etc.), especially when I
don't have any real insight, but I just had a
spare 2 cents of my own lying
On 2/25/06, Tom Frauenhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And Palm has had 'Intel Inside' for years - the
Intel StrongArm chips (but, hey, they're still Intel).
However, Palm is not an Intel-only shop. The Z22 device uses a
low-cost Samsung ARM chip, although all of our other
currently-shipping
Any change of seeing any of the embedded AMD designs
or further TI usage?
thanks,
Craig.
--- Ben Combee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/25/06, Tom Frauenhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And Palm has had 'Intel Inside' for years - the
Intel StrongArm chips (but, hey, they're still
Intel).
2006/2/22, Ben Combee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ACCESS did just announce their future OS, ALP (ACCESS Linux Platform)which is based on Linux and runs Palm OS Garnet applications as wellas native ARM applications.There have been no announcements aboutlicensees of this OS yet.
So, are you sure ALP will
On 2/24/06, Tinnus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2006/2/22, Ben Combee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ACCESS did just announce their future OS, ALP (ACCESS Linux Platform)
which is based on Linux and runs Palm OS Garnet applications as well
as native ARM applications. There have been no announcements about
2006/2/24, Ben Combee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
At the moment, it looks like ALP will support 68K and 68K+PNO apps,but not apps that use PNOs that make direct system calls, only appsthat use PNOs that use the callback pointer to call PACE.
Hmm, so that means the YAHM SDK stuff won't work? That's bad for
I'm curious about the press release that said that GTK+ will be
used as the graphics toolkit. Does this mean that the Linux base
OS includes a complete X server? Or a hacked-down simplified one?
GTK+ can be built to work on X or to work on DirectFB, a simpler
hardware acceleration layer. I
Ben Combee wrote:
Hmm, so that means the YAHM SDK stuff won't work? That's bad for some
folks... including myself :P
I think there's plenty of time to wait-and-see here. I also think a
lot of applications enabled by YAHM SDK work can probably be
implemented in a much cleaner way as a
There are some new articles on ALP online today:
http://www.computingunplugged.com/issues/issue200602/1724001.html
-- review of what ACCESS has announced
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7143789902.html
-- summary of previous article plus additional details.
--
For information on using
Ben Combee wrote:
There are some new articles on ALP online today:
http://www.computingunplugged.com/issues/issue200602/1724001.html
-- review of what ACCESS has announced
More like it! Thanks, Ben, that's really helpful! The article
has some decent information (including a very decent
Just my two cents (and playing advocatus diaboli a bit):
I'm really not a very good programmer. I'm using Appforge and the only
reason to dig deeper into PalmOS was the need to add some stuff that is
not supported by AF. For the same reason I needed to check into Windows
Mobile (or PocketPC or
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To: Palm Developer Forum palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Is Palm OS Going Away?
Just my two cents (and playing advocatus diaboli a bit):
I'm really not a very good programmer. I'm using Appforge and the only
reason to dig deeper into PalmOS
Lance Drake wrote:
other end of that question concerns a company I work for that is about
to develop a line of hdwr/sfwr to support their products. They're
trying to decide whether they should proceed with development using Palm
devices.
Maybe the company should check out Appforge's
AppForge? It's a very expensive tool because the fees
per device... (US$25,00 per Palm, I think)
There is some other alternatives, like SuperWaba (www.superwaba.com.br)
or something else.
Ingbert Grimpe wrote:
Lance Drake wrote:
other end of that question concerns a company
I work
Regis melo wrote:
AppForge? It's a very expensive tool because the fees per device...
(US$25,00 per Palm, I think)
I don't know all cross-platform tools ;) So we can add SuperWaba to the
list.
BTW, price is relative.
Appforge allows to use VB and .NET which means that a programmer does
not
Ingbert,
BTW, price is relative.
Appforge allows to use VB and .NET which means that a programmer does
not need too much ... time to get used to the environment.
How
easy will it be to switch to a different platform if the previous
platform vanishes from the market?
Not sure if those
Well from everything I've heard - there is no clear direction as to
what to do about development environment and target hardware. IF
you're programming for one of the big platforms you get the .Net
package or XCode or Eclipse or something and just start digging in.
The fact that the Palm
Hi Palm OS Dev folks,
Forgive me for my late question. Evidently, Palm OS was sold? If
so, to who? Does that mean there'll be no more Palm OS? Will they
still be selling things that RUN Palm OS?
Thanks for whatever feedback (or vectors to other info) you can provide.
Best Wishes,
On 2/22/06, Lance Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Palm OS Dev folks,
Forgive me for my late question. Evidently, Palm OS was sold? If
so, to who? Does that mean there'll be no more Palm OS? Will they
still be selling things that RUN Palm OS?
Thanks for whatever feedback (or
For the record, ACCESS is still licensing Palm OS Garnet and Palm
continues to be a licensee. While I can't talk about future
products, the Treo 650 is doing great and the TX and Z22 handhelds
have been well-received by the market.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the wonderfully prompt reply and the
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