Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-18 Thread Linda Ndebele
It was indeed the most embarrassing moment. Succession has never been this urgent. The Old Man has played his part, let him hand over the baton. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Sebenzile Mlaza Sender:

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Linda Ndebele
not personalities and factional agendas. We want to lead a revolt not to assimilate to the parliamentary nonsense that different factions are fighting over. PAC needs to lead real revolution not tokenism. Hope you will find this in order. Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email

Re: [PAYCO] Statement of Position - Program of Action

2014-09-20 Thread Linda Ndebele
Cde Matome, I wish to express my gratitude to the continous rationale manner you approach challenges facing our party and our revolutionary task. Indeed I agree with you that we have to make a choice between Revolting or conforming to the system. Making such a choice is critical to know who

[PAYCO] Our generation failed by a generation that has made its mark!

2014-09-13 Thread Linda Ndebele
Comrades, Today had a conversation with my close comrades in my Region (Majuba Region). These are passionate comrades who possess rare talents and skills in terms of mass mobilization, resource mobilization and are hardcore politicians. They live, breath and dream politics. PAC is blessed to

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-10 Thread Linda Ndebele
by seasoned party cadres whom we have utmost respect and expect nothing other than guidance and decisive leadership. I humbly request cadres. Izwe lethu! Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: 'Mawethu Sidzamba' via Pan

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Linda Ndebele
-04 10:54, Linda Ndebele wrote: Greetings comrades, Indeed our belovered movement is in crisis. The challenge is that we are in a denial mode. Those who are in control of levers of power hold a view that all is in order because they are in power and it will augur negatively if they accept

Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Linda Ndebele
is the prolonged chaos as we see. . . The mobilization of structures into this call needs leadership, we need to give that leadership on the ground otherwise lets forget we will forever talk with no progress. iAfrika On 2014-09-04 10:54, Linda Ndebele wrote: Greetings comrades, Indeed our

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Linda Ndebele
rollout and all relevant interest groups and structures are on board. iAfrika On 2014-09-05 12:18, Linda Ndebele wrote: Comrades, The critical question now is who will bell the cat? Who will convene the mediation team? Who should form part of mediation team? How would the whole exercise

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread Linda Ndebele
Greetings comrades, Indeed our belovered movement is in crisis. The challenge is that we are in a denial mode. Those who are in control of levers of power hold a view that all is in order because they are in power and it will augur negatively if they accept that the party is getting weaker

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread Linda Ndebele
Comrades, The levels of factionalism in our party makes one doubt any possibility of getting the party right. The level of engagement is below par and mainly focuses on attacking personalities. I maintain my view that our engagements lacks practical steps towards resolving the myriad of

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread Linda Ndebele
? We must bring into one pot all initiatives to create one common action plan to salvage the PAC! The disintegration of PAC must be arrested! Shango lashu NKrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Ndebele Sent: 04 September 2014 03:31 PM

Re: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped

2014-08-29 Thread Linda Ndebele
and constant political education! The same logic applies internally to the party! Kind regards Nkrumah -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Ndebele Sent: 29 August 2014 02:44 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com; 'Mbulelo Raymond' Cc: d

[PAYCO] Need for serious introspection: What to do to advance the struggle?

2014-08-24 Thread Linda Ndebele
supporting a soccer team. I will appreciate guidance from you dear comrades. Izwe lethu! Linda Ndebele --Original Message-- To: payco@googlegroups.com To: Mbulelo Raymond Cc: d...@pac.org.za Cc: bulanng...@gmail.com Cc: MoAfrica wa Azania Cc: Keith Moyce Cc: Malinge Plaatjie Cc: Lucas

Re: [PAYCO] MPETHI PRESIDENTIAL DECREE AND THREE PAC NEC SPLITS

2014-08-06 Thread Linda Ndebele
This is what they call dejavu. PAC is stucked in a maze. That clause 14.2 must be removed in the PAC constitution. This adds to the disappointment one already has Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima

[PAYCO] Fw: The plight of the people of Palestine

2014-07-15 Thread Linda Ndebele
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Linda Ndebele linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:34:17 To: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.zakwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi (nrkgag...@gmail.com)nrkgag

[PAYCO] Re: LAND REFORM

2014-07-03 Thread Linda Ndebele
for us to be reunited and push the vision of Mangaliso Sobukwe and we need equally to revise da party discipline and maintain it in a highest order. Kindly regards PASMA ground Soldier Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Linda Ndebele kwamendeb

[PAYCO] Re: LAND REFORM

2014-07-02 Thread Linda Ndebele
Comrades in arms, As much as I share sentiments advanced against the approach of cde Ndima in relation to the document submitted here by cde Siya Ndamane for our indulgence and response, but I am not impressed by the dismissive attitude to the pertinent issues he raises. I am one person who

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread linda ndebele
is to play any meaningful role in the struggle of the working class it should shed yellow unions characteristics and adapt a militant approach. Izwe lethu! Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread linda ndebele
I meant NUM Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:52:48 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO

Re: [PAYCO] Role of youth in policy development

2013-09-19 Thread linda ndebele
pillars and replacing it with a new radical system that will bring true salvation for our people. That's what I stand for and the policy development I talk about revolves around this point of view. I pause. Izwe Lethu! Linda Ndebele Yours a socialist revolution Sent via my BlackBerry from

[PAYCO] Role of youth in policy development

2013-09-18 Thread linda ndebele
in the Research Unit of the PAC? Hope this will spark the necessary discussion on the role of youth in policy development in the PAC. Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email

Re: [PAYCO] Thami on the Freedom Charter SA FM now

2013-07-01 Thread linda ndebele
Just hate opportunist like him. That man does not want to work. He should find a job for change and stop living by chances. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date:

[PAYCO]

2013-02-19 Thread linda ndebele
Revolutionary greetings! Yesterday I was forced for the first time in my life to switch off SAFM during an interview where PAC was discussed. It was an interview of the PAC President Letlapa Mphahlele on Ashraf Garda's show. It was out of embarrassment and sheer disgust on the conduct of the

Re: [PAYCO]

2013-02-19 Thread linda ndebele
Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] @ linda hahahahaha Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:42:19 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco

[PAYCO] Employment opportunities: Sales Agents

2013-02-01 Thread Linda Ndebele
Greetings, A friend urgently need sales representatives based in Durban and Pietermaritzburg. They should have their own car. The basic salary excluding commission is between R7 500 - R9 500. Please furnish me your details @0720682881 to connect you with the person. Thanks Linda Ndebele

Re: [PAYCO] Hostile attitude towards socialism/communism is enchored on sheer ignorance!

2013-01-10 Thread linda ndebele
to rubber stamp our position and having a solid way forward... Yours for a socialist state Azania Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:47:20 To: payco

[PAYCO] Hostile attitude towards socialism/communism is enchored on sheer ignorance!

2013-01-09 Thread linda ndebele
Revolutionary greetings! When we took over office in PAYCO we resolved to revitalise the socialist aspects of the PAC that had been tarnished completely. A mere mention of socialism or marxist leninism invited an avalanche of hostile attack from PAC members. Those who purported to be socialist

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: RE: Mkhwananzi Documents by Prof SR Shabalala

2013-01-05 Thread linda ndebele
Greetings, I share the sentiments of Prof Shabalala infact they represent the collective dismay of PAC members in KZN. As much as one agrees with the view held by cde Moloto that the family is within its right to decide as to where to bury their loved one but this view does not apply to those

[PAYCO] Myth of PAC branches

2013-01-02 Thread linda ndebele
Greetings, One feels obliged to venture an issue evaded by our best writers and cream of our leaders for the fear of being declared as non-members and branch less. I find this argument of PAC branches disingenuous and founded on a big lie. As far as I am concerned PAC has no fully fledged

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march

2012-11-06 Thread linda ndebele
invited to ask themselves question what will payco achieve in this regard? As i don't believe that payco should partake in this march we've nothing to gain. On 11/6/12, linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za wrote: There's no policy position I know on this issue in the PAC. When you partake

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march

2012-11-06 Thread linda ndebele
is creating a vacuum in propagatin' our position. I wil suggest to those cadres who have been invited to ask themselves question what will payco achieve  in this regard? As i don't believe that payco should partake in this march we've nothing to gain. On 11/6/12, linda ndebele kwamendeb

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-10-15 Thread linda ndebele
ndimatongog...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:22:54 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Comrade Linda Ndebele How better and different is PAYCO under your leadership? Your PAYCO NEC is full of cowards who want to fight

[PAYCO] PAYCO needs a vibrant PAC to succeed.

2012-10-09 Thread linda ndebele
to be vibrant as we wished and planned. Yours for a classless society Kwame Ndebele PAYCO President Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:50:31

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-10-08 Thread linda ndebele
] Comrade Linda Ndebele How better and different is PAYCO under your leadership? Your PAYCO NEC is full of cowards who want to fight political organisational battles in facebook and paycogoogle! Do not claim easy victories son of the soil and tell no lies! PAYCO is useless and non-existent

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-10-02 Thread linda ndebele
Cde Mduduzi, Your observation is spot-on. Zuma has been on a mission to erase and undermine the role of PAC and its founding leaders in the liberation struggle. He has gone a step further by using any platform he gets to mock and undermine PAC and its representatives. He has tried to rewrite

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-07-12 Thread linda ndebele
Greetings, I concur comrade Mmbara, in my view as PAC we should cease begging ANC to hounor our leaders, we are the best people who can honour our leaders best. Let's work hard to take over state power and get a chance to change names and honour our leaders. We can't allow ANC government to

Re: [PAYCO] PAC Leadership Manifesto

2012-07-07 Thread linda ndebele
Probably its worth asking who nominated cde Sbu for president which necessitated that he accepts nomination and forgo his previous position against Congress? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Nkrumah Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com

Re: [PAYCO] Re: Fw: Are you a delegate in national...

2012-07-05 Thread linda ndebele
Cde Eddie, I personally don't buy the myth and lie continuously perpetuated by some PAC members that they come from branches and sound structures. I have been in the PAC for the better part of my life and have traveled the length and breadth of this country and have not seen these super

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national...

2012-07-02 Thread linda ndebele
PAC people can be shallow sometimes. This sms is out of order. We reject the July so called congress and shall reject all of its outcomes including the leadership to arise from it Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Motlatsi Mogoiwa

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-06-03 Thread linda ndebele
28, 2012, 7:47 PM So Carl Zimbiri does exist after all? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.zahttp://us.mc1114.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-05-28 Thread linda ndebele
For interest sake force, why you state provinces after the name of a comrade? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mphiri masoga mphi...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:31:59 To: payco@googlegroups.com

Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-05-26 Thread linda ndebele
Greetings dear Pan Africanist, Great take cde Mmbara and Mashao, I want to confirm the reality that you've spoken about regarding comrades employed by parastatals and government. If you work for government and you support PAC you can't enjoy a right to express your differences with the ruling

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread linda ndebele
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Interview Maybe in future ma-afrika the work of publicity should be handled by pub depart dept or prepared by. Them Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone. -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread linda ndebele
For me it makes no sense other than political expediency for the YCL to cry foul play and present itself as a champion of the indigenous African people when the settler leader Pieter Mulder makes an insulting statement on the indigenous African people noting that the Communist Party of South

Re: [PAYCO] Mandela

2011-07-19 Thread Linda Ndebele
Izwe Lethu! Yesterday was the worst day of my life. I had to fight and denounce people I respected and once admired for supporting and heroworshipping Mandela. Ofcourse the worst damage was done on kids who were told all kinds of lies by their parents, media, teachers and church leaders about