Re: [PD-dev] float format in tclpd

2011-11-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
. when you print it. Il 12/11/2011 06:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto: Just playing around with tclpd, pd::strip_selector makes working with the lists nice and easy in Tcl. One thing though: floats are rendered with trailing zeros, so [float 1( is rendered as {float 1.0} in tclpd

Re: [PD-dev] [GEM-dev] sound + video : real time issues

2011-11-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think generally, for gem + audio patches, people run two instances of Pd, one for Gem and the other for the audio. The audio instance has realtime priority, and the Gem one does not. .hc On Nov 13, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: Hi, I am building instalations/instruments

Re: [PD-dev] sound + video : real time issues

2011-11-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
, On Monday, November 14, 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think generally, for gem + audio patches, people run two instances of Pd, one for Gem and the other for the audio. The audio instance has realtime priority, and the Gem one does not. .hc On Nov 13, 2011

[PD-dev] unittests and template Makefile merging

2011-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Katya, I incorporated your unittests changes into the template Makefile, that should make it easier to update the Makefiles of any lib you are adding unittests too. I don't know if you've used opendiff/FileMerge.app much, but it makes things like updating a libs Makefile from the template

Re: [PD-dev] unittests and template Makefile merging

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:24 AM, katja wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I incorporated your unittests changes into the template Makefile, that should make it easier to update the Makefiles of any lib you are adding unittests too. Thanks

Re: [PD-dev] a true Pd-double autobuild finally available for testing

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Woo hoo! 32-bit ints in Pd! Well done, thanks for your hard work on this :). .hc On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:53 AM, katja wrote: Finally there is a first true Pd-double nightly build available for testing, almost one month after the first announcement. It is an OSX i386 build. Other builds will

Re: [PD-dev] a true Pd-double autobuild finally available for testing

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:59 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 18:44, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Woo hoo! 32-bit ints in Pd! Well done, thanks for your hard work on this :). 32bit ints? more like 52bit ints. much better

Re: [PD-dev] buildbot/jenkins: q about hosts

2011-11-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:36 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-08 18:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: jenk...@macosx105-i386.puredata.info it seems jenkins is still sending with this identity. could you change that to jenk

Re: [PD-dev] help compiling pd 0.43 on Windows 7

2011-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
. Instead, I now used the 'new build system' with a few adaptations. These adaptations were derived from a patch file for pd-extended by Patrice Colet and Hans Christoph Steiner. The patch (the one for vanilla, attached, beware that it has windows style line endings) takes care of the following

Re: [PD-dev] help compiling pd 0.43 on Windows 7

2011-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 28, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-11-28 12:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think Miller doesn't use MinGW, so building vanilla on Windows is probably easiest using MSVC like he does. Pd-extended builds nightly (when the server is up) using the pd/src

Re: [PD-dev] help compiling pd 0.43 on Windows 7

2011-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 28, 2011, at 5:12 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think Miller doesn't use MinGW, so building vanilla on Windows is probably easiest using MSVC like he does. Pd-extended builds nightly (when the server is up) using

Re: [PD-dev] help compiling pd 0.43 on Windows 7

2011-11-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:56 AM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: The new build system is almost ready for nightly Windows builds, but not quite.  So the Pd-extended nightly builds still use pd/src

Re: [PD-dev] deadly leak

2011-12-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Krzysztof, Glad to see you posting again on pd-dev! :) Thanks for the breakdown on the bug, that should be helpful, especially combined with pd-l2ork. Jonathan, do you know which release date introduced this fix in pd-l2ork? Then we can isolate it. Otherwise its difficult to navigate

Re: [PD-dev] deadly leak

2011-12-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds like a good plan. I think a number of us support that goal. Any specific way we can help in the near future to get the ball rolling on that? .hc On Dec 14, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Personally, I'm hoping to put band-aids on as many manaifestations of the problem as

Re: [PD-dev] deadly leak

2011-12-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There are a couple of minor details in that patch that I fixed in the attached patch: - remove debugging post() messages from editor_new() and editor_free() - remove glist_free() and glist_cleanup() from g_canvas.h since they no longer exist .hc

[PD-dev] macosx104-powerpc set to reboot once a day

2011-12-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The macosx104-powerpc build machine is kind of flaky, so I set it to reboot once a day at 1:05 Eastern time. .hc Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from

[PD-dev] make your releases if you want updates included in Pd-extended 0.43

2011-12-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its time to create the Pd-extended 0.43 release branch. The new process is tying all of the included libraries to their official releases on puredata.info. So while the nightly builds have been straight from trunk, maintainers will now be responsible for making their own releases, and

Re: [PD-dev] per-thread storage in Pd in support of pdlib - discussion?

2012-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't really have a sense of other possible approaches and their advantages/disadvantages. Couldn't this issue also be solved in the logic of the code? A lot of the current global variables could easily be visible in each thread, and still be fully functional. Things like sys_libdir and

Re: [PD-dev] font size tweak pushed to git... comments?

2012-01-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:46 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 07:16:44AM +0100, Albert Graef wrote: On 01/15/2012 05:34 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: I noticed font sizes changed from 0.42 to 0.43 and tried to tweak them back to 0.42-style, by having the new font-size-search code

[PD-dev] small l2ork install suggestions

2012-01-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ico, I'm just trying out the latest pd-l2ork. I noticed that the executable is now 'pd-l2ork' and it installs into /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork. That's great, that makes installing in parallel much easier. But there are still a few things that conflict with other packages, including things

[PD-dev] zexy 2.2.6?

2012-01-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, I am starting to copy libraries into the pd-extended/0.43 release branch. Do you think you'll do a 2.2.6 any time soon? shall I just include 2.2.5? .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you

[PD-dev] libjpeg-turbo - anyone tried it?

2012-01-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Has anyone tried this? It seems like it would be very valuable for Pd applications, since Motion JPEG is the standard codec: http://libjpeg-turbo.virtualgl.org/ libjpeg-turbo is a derivative of libjpeg that uses SIMD instructions (MMX, SSE2, NEON) to accelerate baseline JPEG compression and

[PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-01-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I've been trying to debug this really annoying issue. The [info complete] look in pd_readsocket was causing some drastic slowdowns on some GUI objects like Scope~, making them unusable. If you remove the [info complete] bracket from pd_readsocket, there are these intermittent Tcl stacktraces

Re: [PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:41 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-01-22 à 21:16:00, Miller Puckette a écrit : Quick guess; the socket itself (at the OS level) has a fixed buffer size and if the sending process exceeds it it is suspended until the receiving process eats at least some of it.

Re: [PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-01-22 à 21:16:00, Miller Puckette a écrit : There's not much way around this. One possibility (if indeed this is a serious efficiency issue) would be for Pd to append a done message to each batch up tcl to up-send. That's

Re: [PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
things to try: Hans-Christoph Steiner I'm having a weird socket buffering issue in my app, Pd. It is two processes: a pure Tcl GUI (pd-gui) and a C engine (pd) which communication over a TCP socket. In pd-gui, I setup the socket to get the data like this: fconfigure $sock -blocking 0 -buffering

[PD-dev] tclpd.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _TclFreeObj

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On the 64-bit build of Pd-extended 0.43.1 on Mac OS X 10.6/Intel, I get this error from tclpd whenever I start it: /Applications/Pd64-0.43.1-extended-20120119.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin:

Re: [PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:45:09AM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-01-22 à 21:16:00, Miller Puckette a écrit : There's not much way around this. One possibility (if indeed this is a serious efficiency issue) would be for Pd to

Re: [PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
[info complete]ß 15:50 (03:50:42 PM) ijchain: ferrieux but the trade-off depends on your data of course From 6a812eb2e2f232fa46d6750ac857ca3c1ba6eb47 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:52:06 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 1/1] profiled, improved

Re: [PD-dev] Join the compile farm (ubuntu current x64)

2012-01-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 18:30, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi there ! András Murányi told me that i should join the compile farm, and i think it could be nice to help the community. I have a Hewlett Packard Aspire Revo 1.6GHz Intel

Re: [PD-dev] per-thread storage in Pd in support of pdlib - discussion?

2012-01-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 25, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Peter Brinkmann peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Chuck, Check out the early bits of this thread --- various use cases

Re: [PD-dev] zexy 2.2.6?

2012-01-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Any word on this? I'd like to import zexy into the pd-extended/release branch now, but if you're going to do a 2.2.6 release soon, I probably can wait. .hc On Mon, Jan 16, 2012, at 14:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, I am starting to copy libraries into the pd-extended/0.43

Re: [PD-dev] Join the compile farm (ubuntu current x64)

2012-01-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 27, 2012, at 12:28 PM, batinste wrote: On 27/01/2012 16:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 18:30, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi there ! András Murányi told me that i should join the compile farm

[PD-dev] float handling in [binfile] for UTF-8 handling

2012-01-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The current pdstring format of lists of bytes seems to be working out pretty well. I just had a thought, it would be nice to be able to write Unicode text out as UTF-8 files using [binfile]. I think currently it only accepts byte values of 0-255. What if it converted values 255 in the

Re: [PD-dev] float handling in [binfile] for UTF-8 handling

2012-01-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2012-01-30 17:45, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The current pdstring format of lists of bytes seems to be working out pretty well. I just had a thought, it would be nice to be able to write Unicode text out as UTF-8 files using

Re: [PD-dev] float handling in [binfile] for UTF-8 handling

2012-01-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012, at 09:41, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-01-31 00:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That does make more sense, so something like [bytes2utf8], etc. utf8 is always a list of bytes. if you get values 255 than

Re: [PD-dev] broken msgs cause Tcl traces, how to debug it?

2012-02-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-01-23 à 14:00:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : if {[string index $cmd_from_pd end] eq \\} { ::pd_connect::pd_readsocket $cmd_from_pd } if {[catch {uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd} errorname]} { This is very wrong

Re: [PD-dev] pd0.43-extended autobuild jack error

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Can you post those patches and how to make them trigger the glitch? Does it cause any problems, or just post that error message? .hc On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:48 AM, patrick wrote: hi pd-dev / hans, (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: bad window path name .x17413d0 while executing wm attributes

[PD-dev] libpng12 fix for gridflow.pd_darwin

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just tried loading gridflow 9.13 on Pd-extended 0.43 on Mac OS X 10.6.8, and it couldn't load because it was looking for libpng12.0.dylib inside of Pd-extended. The included dylibs are automatically included based on what the included objects are linked to, so they are not good to rely on,

Re: [PD-dev] libpng12 fix for gridflow.pd_darwin

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just tried loading gridflow 9.13 on Pd-extended 0.43 on Mac OS X 10.6.8, and it couldn't load because it was looking for libpng12.0.dylib inside of Pd-extended. The included dylibs are automatically included based on what

Re: [PD-dev] libpng12 fix for gridflow.pd_darwin

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-11 à 11:31:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I just tried loading gridflow 9.13 on Pd-extended 0.43 on Mac OS X 10.6.8, and it couldn't load because it was looking for libpng12.0.dylib inside of Pd-extended

Re: [PD-dev] motex - SVNCommitAccess

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
perpetually forgetting how to use it! I can still program a little in C although it has been a while. I use Linux. At the moment I don't have access to a windows compiler. Cheers, Iain On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 11:55 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Are you interested in maintaining your motex

Re: [PD-dev] Can anyone on windows 7 confirm TCL bug?

2012-02-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 17:34 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 09:18 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:12:42PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 10, 2012, at 4:24 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Miller On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 09

Re: [PD-dev] libpng12 fix for gridflow.pd_darwin

2012-02-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-11 à 14:18:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I just downloaded gridflow-9.13-macosx104-i386.tar.gz and it was looking for libpng12 at @executable_path/../../lib/libpng.12.0.dylib. I don't know what happened

Re: [PD-dev] iemnet classes not loading in current Pd-extended for Windows

2012-02-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Turns out that the libfoo.dll thing in libdirs isn't loading properly in Windows. I have a fix in the works. .hc On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi In the latest (working) version of Pd-extended (2012-02-01) for Windows, iemnet classes cannot be created. When creating

Re: [PD-dev] libname-meta.pd

2012-02-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Let's keep this kind of stuff on the list, I cc'ed pd-dev. Fixed with this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15969 Using this regexp: sed -i 's|\([^\\]\),|\1 \\,|g' */*-meta.pd .hc On Feb 16, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Re: [PD-dev] new pd autobuild

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The debian/testing/amd64 build might work better for you. If you still have a problem, please post a bug report. I quickly looked and didn't see the cause. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:00 PM, patrick wrote: fresh from today: linux mint 12 - 64bit (had to use the r33p debian sqeeze amd 64

Re: [PD-dev] fontwidth and nogui

2012-02-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-19 à 10:05:00, Miller Puckette a écrit : It's hilarious - there's exactly one aspect of Pd run-time semantics that depends on screen location -- inlets/outlets of subpatches are numbered in left-to-right order on teh screen.

Re: [PD-dev] extended-debian-testing-amd64 builds truncated (Was Re: new pd autobuild)

2012-02-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't quite understand. That one worked for you, or didn't? Which build has a problem? .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:51 PM, patrick wrote: hi hans, Pd-0.43.1-extended-debian-testing-amd64.deb 18-Feb-2012 06:53 1.8K there's

[PD-dev] jenkins back up, now with proper CAcert certificate

2012-02-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The PdLab Jenkins server is back up and running: https://macosx105-i386.pdlab.puredata.info I just got it a proper CAcert.org TLS certificate, so inline: macosx105-i386.pdlab.puredata.info.certificate_fingerprints.png If you want to build your software on the jenkins server, please post a

Re: [PD-dev] new pd autobuild

2012-02-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I tried the Ubunut/oneiric build today with jack and didn't get this. I was getting lots of those messages to the Pd window tho. .hc On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:22 PM, patrick wrote: hi hans, sorry, i tried Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120218-r33p.debian-squeeze-amd64.deb the first time with this

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-installation on jenkins/debian-stable-amd64

2012-02-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-21 13:03, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: - `pkg-config --cflags pdextended` returns -I/usr/local/include/pd, which does not exist

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-installation on jenkins/debian-stable-amd64

2012-02-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-21 17:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - - should /usr/include/m_pd.h be handled likewise, using update-alternatives? again, i'm not sure whether this is good style

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-installation on jenkins/debian-stable-amd64

2012-02-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-21 17:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I reinstalled 'puredata' on debian-stable-amd64, sorry about that, I don't know what happened there. The build systems are mean

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-installation on jenkins/debian-stable-amd64

2012-02-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:47 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-21 17:40, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd-vanilla does provide the sources, but there are two issues: - it does not include the include/pd/ subdir for headers i don't

Re: [PD-dev] adding an inlet and outlet to [table]

2012-02-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just saw that Max's [table] object has an inlet and outlet on it. You can send the position to the [table] object and it'll output the value. Then it also has

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3494768 ] verbose() leaves blank lines when filtered out in Pd window

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
. logpost(1) == verbose(1) .hc On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:15 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i move that to the list, as it makes discussion easier. On 2012-02-27 15:32, SourceForge.net wrote: Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) idea

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3494768 ] verbose() leaves blank lines when filtered out in Pd window

2012-02-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, I object. Like I said in the bug tracker and this thread, I think the offset should either remain the same or be the same as the rest. .hc On 02/28/2012 04:45 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: trying to take the heat out of this: my patch suggested to change the loglevel offset from +4

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3494768 ] verbose() leaves blank lines when filtered out in Pd window

2012-02-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 02/28/2012 10:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2012-02-28 16:03, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, I object. Like I said in the bug tracker and this thread, I think the offset should either remain the same or be the same as the rest. may i ask why? what makes 4 better than 3? +4

[PD-dev] comport profiling, switching default poll time to 10ms

2012-03-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I was doing some comport profiling using an Arduino and Firmata. I noticed that at the default poll time of 1ms, that there were many fruitless calls to comport_tick() before any bytes where read. And that the bytes are always read and written in clusters, no matter the poll time. The

Re: [PD-dev] Jenkins slaves offline

2012-03-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just updated Jenkins and restarted it. It seems that the slaves are re-attaching. Andras, are you interested in helping maintain the Jenkins server? I could use some help :) .hc On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:00 PM, András Murányi wrote: Hey, I just noticed 1-2 days ago that Jenkins' slaves are

Re: [PD-dev] Jenkins slaves offline

2012-03-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:18 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2012/3/9 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I just updated Jenkins and restarted it. It seems that the slaves are re-attaching. Andras, are you interested in helping maintain the Jenkins server? I could use some help :) .hc

[PD-dev] gfsm in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Bryan, I was just doing a survey of all the help patches in Pd-extended 0.43, and I saw that [gfsm] in moocow does not seem to be building properly. Do you want to get this working for the Pd-extended 0.43 release? Here's the error: loading:

[PD-dev] string2any doesn't create in mrpeach/tcpsocketserver-help.pd

2012-03-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Martin, I just ran the load_every_help.py test script on Pd-extended 0.43 and saw this: loading: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/tcpsocketserver-help.pd declare: declare: unknown declaration declare: declare: unknown declaration tcpserver

[PD-dev] log of errors for every help patch in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I ran the load_every_help.py script on yesterday's build on Mac OS X. You can see the log here: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-03-21/logs/load_every_help_palatschinken-3.local_2012-03-21_11.43.45.log This log will should you errors in help patches, like if certain objects

[PD-dev] pdstring - libdir

2012-03-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Bryan, I'd like to ask you if its OK to port your pdstring library over to the Library Template. pdstring does not need any special libraries, nor does it need to handle any cross-platform differences, so autotools aren't really needed, and the Makefile works fine. Plus using the

Re: [PD-dev] adding an inlet and outlet to [table]

2012-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-26 à 20:38:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : After some probing, I figured out what the table object is: its an instance of t_canvas/t_glist actually, with its own custom table_new() method. That's a pretty odd

Re: [PD-dev] compiling to DSP processor?

2012-04-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Damian, The gluiph was just that, it ran Pd directly on a DSP: http://www.nime.org/proceedings/2003/nime2003_180.pdf Depending on your skills, it could be easier to run a über-stripped OS like I did on the Palm Pilots, which ran Pd tho they had 32megs of RAM. There wasn't much more than

Re: [PD-dev] compiling to DSP processor?

2012-04-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
:58:49AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Damian, The gluiph was just that, it ran Pd directly on a DSP: http://www.nime.org/proceedings/2003/nime2003_180.pdf Depending on your skills, it could be easier to run a über-stripped OS like I did on the Palm Pilots, which ran Pd tho

Re: [PD-dev] compiling to DSP processor?

2012-04-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
usable would come out? (I have never done anything with a DSP chip before and the examples on TI's website are fairly heavy on the assembler, they mostly look like microprocessor bit-bangy code..) cheers damian On 02.04.2012, at 19:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I imagine

[PD-dev] macosx104-powerpc is online

2012-04-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks to Greg Pond, we now have a macosx104-powerpc box online and running builds via jenkins and the Pd-extended auto-build script. The whole Fink setup is still building, so that's not in place yet. But now this leads to the question: do we want to maintain things on Mac OS X 10.4? I

Re: [PD-dev] macosx104-powerpc is online

2012-04-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 5, 2012, at 2:18 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-04-05 20:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Thanks to Greg Pond, we now have a macosx104-powerpc box online and running builds via jenkins and the Pd-extended auto-build script

Re: [PD-dev] [OT] spambots that deliver compliments?

2012-04-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think those are usually SEO (Search Engine Optimization) bots that go around posting innocuous comments with a link to the thing they want to promote. In other words, spam. I still think we should turn on the requirement to log into sourceforge before posting to the trackers. It'll

Re: [PD-dev] Tentative fix for the -nogui no-sound problem

2012-04-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That could be the solution, I haven't looked enough to know yet. My question is: what is causing the sample rate to first be sent as 0? I remember that seemed to be one of the behaviors related to this. Its probably something we want to prevent from happening, unless someone can explain why

Re: [PD-dev] src vs. include

2012-04-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Good idea, done: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=16126 .hc On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:20 PM, m.e.grimm wrote: im building flext right now and noticed that m_pd.h is in pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include while flext (and many other older

Re: [PD-dev] Source code for [comport]

2012-04-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's it. .hc On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Thomas Mayer wrote: Hi, where is the source code for [comport] that is included in Pd-extended? Is this still the most recent source? https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/comport/comport/ as it is

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended-dev 10.7.3 update

2012-04-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Excellent, thanks for the report, and thanks for taking care of the issues. About the pd-extended-dev=0.43.1-1 thing, I don't really know what triggers it, but it doesn't seem to prevent it from working. .hc On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:27 AM, m.e.grimm wrote: hey hans, i just removed my fink

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended-dev 10.7.3 update

2012-04-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
will eventually need it for image support no? m On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Excellent, thanks for the report, and thanks for taking care of the issues. About the pd-extended-dev=0.43.1-1 thing, I don't really know what triggers

Re: [PD-dev] Guide for helping out?

2012-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey John, Thanks for your offer! I'm away in babyland these days, donno about others, so your best bet will be if you are self-directed. There are lots of bugs listed in the bug tracker, and a good bit of dev docs on the website. Those are two good places to start. Then, there is always

[PD-dev] Jenkins server is back

2012-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I got the Mac Jenkins server back up and running. Hopefully it stays that way for a while: https://macosx105-i386.pdlab.puredata.info/ Attached are the HTTPS cert fingerprints, if you don't feel like installing the https://cacert.org root certs: .hc attachment:

Re: [PD-dev] coll object in cyclone broken in 0.43; how to submit fix?

2012-09-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Which version are you using? These fixes are already be included in cyclone in SVN: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionsortby=daterevision=15018 http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionsortby=daterevision=15651 .hc On 09/03/2012 04:49

Re: [PD-dev] [pd-dev] introduction and SVN write access

2012-09-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I added you as a developer to the pure-data project, welcome! (pd-gem is a separate project on sourceforge). One piece of advice: you might find it easier to start new project outside of the pure-data SVN, but I do hope that you will be contributing to the existing projects :-) .hc On Sep

Re: [PD-dev] [pd-dev] introduction and SVN write access

2012-09-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
http://antoine.villeret.free.fr http://drii.ensad.fr -- Google lit ce mail... si vous refusez cela, utilisez l'adresse antoine.villeret [at] free.fr pour me contacter 2012/9/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I added you as a developer to the pure-data project, welcome! (pd

Re: [PD-dev] [pd-dev] introduction and SVN write access

2012-09-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ah, sorry, I didn't know that you were already in contact with them, I'm not very current on all of the various subprojects. If you are already in contact with them, then you clearly did not violate the rules :-D .hc On 09/24/2012 08:28 AM, Antoine Villeret wrote: Hi Hans, I'm very

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-cvs Digest, Vol 92, Issue 2

2012-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For what its worth, the past couple Pd-extended releases on Mac OS X have included the -fast flag, which does enable -ffast-math. I've never heard any complaints, but I've also never tested it closely.

[PD-dev] adding tags to pure-data.git

2012-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, It would be very useful to have tags in your pure-data.git repo so its easy to find the releases. I'm happy to do the tagging and uploading to the official repo, or you can do it: git tag 0.43.3 49d7e9c997afc3bfce8ce2ffea8a7c06a541d146 git tag 0.43.2

Re: [PD-dev] adding tags to pure-data.git

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
: Funny - I'd been tagging away but never realized they weren't getting pushed (didn't know about the 'tags' option) - see what it looks like to you now. chers Miller On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 08:36:43PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller, It would be very useful to have tags

[PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I've noticed that if you bang a [tabwrite~ array1] more often than about 100ms, the array that its writing to will not send updates to the GUI. It seems that its a kind of a fade out with [metro 100] seems to send all updates, [metro 98.8] send some updates and [metro 95] sends basically

[PD-dev] Fwd: Pure Data Computer Music System and the New SourceForge

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@users.sf.net, Hans-Christoph Steiner eighth...@users.sf.net, Frank Barknecht f...@users.sf.net, Guenter Geiger ggei...@users.sf.net, Miller Puckette millerpucke...@users.sf.net, CC: Rich Bowen rbo...@sourceforge.net Dear Pure Data Computer Music System project admin

Re: [PD-dev] request to update Gem for the nightly autobuilds

2012-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Pd-extended 0.43 ships with the latest Gem release, which currently is 0.93.3, but I think will end up as 0.93.4. If someone installs a newer Gem into their user folder, then Pd-extended will load that one instead of the built-in one.

[PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I was tired of dealing with a cryptic ./configure, so I converted OSCx to be based on the Library Template. THis is currently in the pd-extended/0.43 branch. Anyone have any objections of me removing the old OSCx and replacing it with the 'oscx' library? .hc

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Any objections? Shall I go with lazy consensus on this one? .hc On 10/16/2012 07:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, I was tired of dealing with a cryptic ./configure, so I converted OSCx to be based on the Library Template. THis is currently in the pd-extended/0.43 branch

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/19/2012 03:03 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/19/2012 06:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Any objections? Shall I go with lazy consensus on this one? .hc On 10/16/2012 07:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, I was tired of dealing with a cryptic ./configure, so I

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/19/2012 09:10 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/19/2012 03:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: and i don't get the point of replacing OSCx by oscx. Every other library folder in externals/ is all lower case. which is a good rule for all new libraries. imho, it's a bad idea

[PD-dev] auto builds for libs in trunk/externals/

2012-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I have set up automatic builds direct from trunk/externals of SVN for all libraries that are based on the Library Template[1]. It runs the script trunk/externals/build-all-libdirs.sh whenever there is a new commit anywhere in trunk/externals/. Its currently building on debian-stable-amd64

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/19/2012 10:45 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/19/2012 03:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: why would you want to keep OSCx alive? i would rather entirely remove this buggy and un-maintained (as in: upstream, not within PdX) library from any distribution. Its still widely used

Re: [PD-dev] gop properties settings

2012-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You can definiteyl post this to the sourceforge bugtracker, you can even do it without logging in. But its much better if you do log in first, before posting the bug report. So please add a report there if its still an issue. .hc On 07/19/2012 03:16 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, I'd like

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/19/2012 04:29 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/19/2012 08:21 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's good to have, please post and maintain that somewhere, like maybe in the 'osc' lib. But its not yet a replacement because at the very least its not deployed. i honestly dunno

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/20/2012 04:07 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/20/2012 01:26 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'm not going to take on the maintenance of those patches, so just copying them into Pd-extended is not an option. I'm think Pd-extended should have an 'oscx' compatible library , and 'oscx

Re: [PD-dev] converting OSCx to a template library

2012-10-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/20/2012 11:56 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/20/2012 04:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'd happily ditch it if there was a drop in replacement. For example, I've had many students come to me with the most popular Processing-- Pd starter patch, and its based on oscx

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