Was it your intention to omit Pentax PS from your list? I carry a Pentax 90WR in my
briefcase as it was recommended on this list.
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:The
William Wooten wrote:
Here's an idea.
limit posts to PROFESSIONALS that only use Pentax bodies and
Pentax lenses ...
the photos must also be take while standing
on one foot while rubbing their belly patting their head
and sipping single malt scotch
Can we make an exception and
From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob B. wrote:
Look. No one is being pissy here until you jumped in with this. No one
is
jumping on anyone else for previous submissions. No on is dumping on
anyone
who has followed the rules.
Obviously you do not know what you have been saying.
My 2 cents worth, adjusted for inflation...
Pentax bodies should be required, but for numerous reasons brought up
previously, K-mount or M42 screwmount lenses of any brand should be
accepted.
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday,
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The PUG Guy yips a second time
| Submissions must have been made using Pentax Digital, 6x7, 645,
| K-Mount or M-42 screw mount camera equipment. Third party
| equipment is welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either
Scary. It almost looks like he was posessed by demons
sometime between February and August. His record up
until now has been spotless. Or perhaps he is not who
he seems. I guess somehow it would be possible to
find/crack someone else's password. Although the same
ID's turn up again and again in
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
William Robb
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The PUG Guy yips a second time
Submissions must have been made using Pentax
Digital, 6x7, 645,
K-Mount or
Well, I don't know about you, but I start drooling
every time I hear that manual Pentax shutter click G
--- John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Poor Pentax. They're missing out on the power of
instant gratification. Someone should introduce them
to
Pavlov and modern sales marketing.
Get
Lasse, as one who's been around a little longer than you, I can remember
when you first came aboard and begged the question, Where are all the
girls? I guess you've got your answer. G
Thanks,
Ed
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
My MZ-S was accidentally left on in my camera bag from yesterday until today. That
was enough to kill the batteries completely. It was turned accidentally on while
squezing it into the camera bag. The on/off switch is great but maybe they should have
provided a lock?
Pel
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William Robb wrote:
Submissions must have been made using Pentax Digital, 6x7, 645,
K-Mount or M-42 screw mount camera equipment. Third party
equipment is welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either the
body or lens is Asahi/Pentax
Well done Bill. I think the guidelines are now in the
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From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: The PUG Guy yips a second time
William Robb wrote:
Submissions must have been made using Pentax Digital, 6x7,
645,
K-Mount or M-42 screw mount
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From: Pel Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:11 AM
Subject: More MZ-S battery consumprion
My MZ-S was accidentally left on in my camera bag from
yesterday until today. That was enough to kill the batteries
October: The Elements II
(Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.)
How many elements are necessary to qualify?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa3 / wrote:
Is
it really about the equipment, or is it really about the image?
What
matters most to you?
Perhaps it is about both the equipment and the image. After all, if
the image was the only concern then we should really send our pics to
the Photoblink,
Paul M. Provencher wrote:
That's the point isn't it? Pentax Users Gallery (PUG)
ppro
So Paul,
When I'm out passing film back and forth in my new MZ-5n while my Kalimar
zoom is mounted (you don't think I'd have a Pentax lens if I had some
money?), I'm not a Pentax user but If I mount my Pentax
William wrote:
Whats going on with that camera at idle? I regularly forget to
shut off my wifes MZ-5 (the peril of growing up with mechanical
bodies, I guess), and it doesn't drain the batteries. This would
possibly account for the high battery consumption you are
seeing, as I would
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 06:36:16 -0700, Steve Larson wrote:
October: The Elements II
(Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.)
How many elements are necessary to qualify?
Five.. :-)
Later,
Gary
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Bravo! Sleep well. We'll find something new to debate while you sleep.
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: The PUG Guy yips a second time
- Original Message
What was it doing with all that juice? I often forget to turn off my ZX-5n
and it doesn't seem to use much batter power when it is just sitting and
waiting for someone to activate the shutter release button.
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From: Pal Jensen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
I think any number of elements would be acceptable as long as at least one carries the
Pentax brand name.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:October PUG
October: The
No photo list is a place to showcase any photo equipment. There are no
photos of equipment. Is the purpose to showcase photos taken with Pentax
equipment? Yes, but not entirely. I don't believe that the purpose is solely
to share photos with others either. It's unlikely to be all that black and
http://www.ufaq.org/section_three.html
is the URL for FAQ's on Netscape v4 above
links to other versions misc headaches that
still make MSIE look like the cobbled-together
mess it is.
Like, how to make Netscape the default browser
==
Jody...
not all internet
William Robb wrote:
Submissions must have been made using Pentax Digital, 6x7, 645,
K-Mount or M-42 screw mount camera equipment. Third party
equipment is welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either the
body or lens is Asahi/Pentax
Does this provide sufficient compromise for the
Anyone on the list deal with the GRAYSLAKE VETERINARY CLINIC in
Mason, AL?
William Robb
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From: Steve Larson
Subject: October PUG
October: The Elements II
(Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.)
How many elements are necessary to qualify?
Mine has at least one
WW
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Sounds like a hic-up or hic-down.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:24 AM
Subject: OT: This has to be from soemeone here
Anyone on the list deal
I don't plan on planting any pics at the web site
I fully acknowledge that the owner of the site can do any
blamed thing they want with THEIR site.
I does seem a bit unrealistic, given how folks scramble around
just trying to get a BODY without missing a rent payment, that
one would require
At 06:09 1-9-2001 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:01:04 +0100
From: Jim Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My PUG Entry
Peter Alling wrote:
The only nit I would pick is with the dead white sky.
Hey, what are you saying? That's not a ~dead~ white sky, that's a ~Welsh~
white sky!
g
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 at 15:27:49 -0600, William Robb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] held forth, quoting Shel Belinkoff in his
Creature's Comfort guise:
Just so we're all clear about this: the PUG submission must be
made with a Pentax brand camera and a Pentax brand lens - no
third party zooms, no Ricoh
Naw, they sent me a bunch of their billing information via
email, along with that stupid virus that was bonking around a
few weeks ago. I am just curious as to how I got into their
address book
William Robb
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From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
I've inadvertently turned on my MZ-S three times while putting my camera
away, often overnight or longer, and I haven't drained my batteries. Now I
know I don't shoot nearly as often as Pel does, but I haven't drained by
batteries from leaving it on. Interesting.
My apologies if I've misspelled
Whitetail Doe In Grasses by Bill Sawyer
I love the texture of the grasses and the composition
Old Snag by Thomas Cakalic
I like the three main colors and how they are placed in the picture
Andy Jeff/Charlottesville/June 2001 by John Mason
Cool, man. :)
Curious Duck by David A.
Amita,
Thanks for the kind remarks. Certainly the fisheye is one of the funnest
lenses to use. You just have to look for the right shots. I always take it
along because you never know when the opportunity will present itself. I
explored other lenses for this particular shot, but found the
Sorry, I've been so busy I haven't been able to keep up with the digests.
What was the question?
--Mike
pentax-discuss-digest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoopsie,
my bad! Sorry about that folks, guess that
wasn't it after all.
Maybe Mike will let us know which one it is for sure
Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
I think any number of elements would be acceptable as long as at least one carries
the Pentax brand name.
OK if I just put a Pentax filter on my Canon lens, then? :)
Bob Harris
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Heh... I get to do a 3-for-1 here. :)
My $0.02 on the PUG/Pentax gear thing...
For almost 17 years I've been a Pentax user. My first camera is a
K-1000 with the factory SMC-A 50mm/f2.0 lens. I used that for almost 3
years as my exclusive rig. I then obtained a Sigma 75-200/f2.8~3.5
lens. Why
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From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:58 PM
Subject: Not able to pay attention, sorry
Sorry, I've been so busy I haven't been able to keep up with the digests.
What was the question?
Hi Mike.
Regarding
Thank you, Amita, you made my day.
Bill Sawyer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amita Guha
Sent: September 01, 2001 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: my favorite Sept. PUG entries
Whitetail Doe In Grasses by
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:27:29 -0700, you wrote:
The way I understand your definition is that I can use a Leica and
Leica glass since the Leica takes Pentax lenses, and a Leica lens
would be compatible with the Pentax-compatible camera body.
Would a Ricoh with a K-mount Lentar lens and a Vivitar
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 04:32:14 -0700 (PDT), Jody wrote:
That was 1/2 using Alt0189. Why did this happen?
And that was supposed to be Pal with the accent on the
a, using Alt0229.
It's because Alt0189, and any other Altxxx code, only work with the
Windows version of the ASCII character set. When
Juan J. Buhler:
Love the translucency of the marble faces, good composition, the grain
does indeed look good.
Adelheid, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This is an interesting perspective. Unfortunatly the grainy film or too
much
light erased the line of the cheek of the background face.
Thanks for the
Edward's shot Riga, After a Thunderstorm, is magnificent. I'm a sucker for
twilight city shots anyway, but this is beautiful. More and more I am
realising that photography is more about capturing the light, rather than
looking for interesting subjects (not that this subject is not interesting).
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From: Pel Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No. I did write Pel according to my outbox. But I received it as Pel as well.
Pel
Bwha ha ha ho ho. I don't know how this happens but I am writing my name with an A
with a dot on top. For some reasons its transformed to an E
Kevin wrote:
What was it doing with all that juice? I often forget to turn off my ZX-5n
and it doesn't seem to use much batter power when it is just sitting and
waiting for someone to activate the shutter release button.
I don't know. The batteries was somewhat used but should have quite
At 04:43 AM 9/1/2001 -0700, Jody wrote:
Snip
I think somewhere in the letter I will drop the fact
that my half-cousin pays their wages (well the part I
don't pay). He is the State Services Commisioner of
NZ. They don't have to know that I know him only from
the television.
That might work. A
Recently someone posted that their local minilabs tended to print with too
much magenta and too light. Today at work I tried setting our printer to -1
stop magenta and +1 stop dark. The results were fantastic! Caucasian
skin tones much more natural and saturation increased noticeably. Thanks
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:53:40 +0200, Pl Jensen wrote:
Pel (did it come through this time?)
Not in the message, but it's fine in the From: address. Go figure.
This just started happening recently. The (a with circle over it)
had been coming through fine in messages and headers for a long
I don't feel qualified to comment but here goes!
Curious Duck (David A Mann)
Nce. Really like this frozen moment - would love to know what the duck was
thinking!
Frank St Mailboxes (Jan van Wijk)
How did you get that sky? or was it really like that?
I particularly like the balance of
I don't agree. This excludes 110 in the way I read it. And it also excludes
any new formats coming out. Why so very difficult? Just say that the minimum
is that either the lens or the camera must be Asahi or Pentax.
Frits
William Robb wrote:
Submissions must have been made using Pentax
I would think you could participate if you were Drinking Asahi Beer.
At 02:31 AM 9/1/2001 -0400, Robert Harris wrote:
William Wooten wrote:
Here's an idea.
limit posts to PROFESSIONALS that only use Pentax bodies and
Pentax lenses ...
the photos must also be take while standing
Bill said in an earlier message that the PS covered the 110.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: Frits J. W|thrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: The PUG Guy yips a second time
I don't
Need to add a wider lens to my current collection, as a first buy budget lens
how does the Vivitar S1 19-35 fit with you guys? There's not many low-cost
lenses under 35mm so any suggestions welcome!
Currently have a pentax 35-80 and a sigma 100-300.
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Why not any camera body, lens or combination of which at least one element
says Pentax?
Bill, KG4LOV
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My boyfriend wants to get rid of his old
Praktica. It won't advance with film in
it and the light seals are gone. It has a
50mm 2.8 lens which appears to be scratched.
The faux leather stuff on the back appears to
be coming unglued on the back. If anyone wants
it, let me know. I was thinking $5
Pel Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bwha ha ha ho ho. I don't know how this happens but I am
writing my name with an A with a dot on top. For some reasons
its transformed to an E somewhere in cyberspace.
Pel (did it come through this time?)
H...
Shel Shared
Now that *is* odd ... I typed it using an a with a small circle over
it, and my copy came through that way, but the copy to the list
appeared as above.
As nearly as I can tell, sometime between 10:30 am (US Central (GMT - 6:00))
on 8/30/01 and 9:46 am on 8/31/01 P*l as we
Pel
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: Cy Galley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Please, stop all other topics, we must addres??us-ascii?Q?sthe Pal
issue
Pel
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Here is the link to the Official Name Change site.
It cost just $69.95 to change your name.
Sorry Pel, you'll just have to change your name.
http://www.accessnamechange.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/nc/main.html?E+court
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Kevin wrote:
As nearly as I can tell, sometime between 10:30 am (US Central (GMT - 6:00))
on 8/30/01 and 9:46 am on 8/31/01 P*l as we know him ceased to exist and his
alter ego, Pel, took over. Was some change to the server made during that
time interval?
What time is that? g (I'm not
At 11:33 1-9-2001 -0400, you wrote:
From: Timo Hartikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: 2 pics
I scanned 2 pics yesterday:
http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/tsign.htm
http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/kolmio.htm
Agfapan 400, scanned from 10*15 cm prints.
Kx+100/4 macro.
- - Timo
One word, Timo,
Hopefully Doug Brewer is following this. I think some change has been made to the
PDML. When I sent the last message, I deliberately sent it in rich-text format as a
test (sorry all). In checking what came back to me it did not have the rich-text
formatting I sent. Usually, when I forget to
Amita wrote:
Andy Jeff/Charlottesville/June 2001 by John Mason
Cool, man. :)
The older I get the happier I am to see my name
associated with the word cool.
Hugs and kisses, John
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Charlottesville, Virginia
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:16:00 -0400, Wendy Beard wrote:
The composition would have been better without the fountain and pile of
sand (or rock) at the right hand side. My eye is continually drawn to that
part of the photograph, and in particular the light patch (more sand or a
path?) above the
William Robb writes:
October: The Elements II
(Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.)
How many elements are necessary to qualify?
Mine has at least one
Mine all have several elements in several groups. All but two are Pentax.
Cheers,
- Dave
David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)
Bob Rapp writes:
I know the So Island very well. It is the people south of Christchurch I
admire. Plus the geography is much more noble once you leave the Canterbury
Plains.
You're right there; I find the plains quite boring in comparison to the rest of
the South Island. I think my
Karen Fraser writes:
My apologies if I've misspelled your name Pel. Is it Pel or Pel?
OK that's funny :) Have you been watching too much of Monty Python's
Flying Circus?
Seriously though, its time for a test to see what's going on. I wonder if the list
server is reformatting the body
Well, here is Pel copied from the subject line.
Paal, Paul, Pel,...
...reminds me of the old 'You can call me Pal or you can call me Sal, but
don't call me Johnson!'
Regards, Bob S.
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The F version of this lens was the default lens on my (M)Z(X) 50 kit. A
lot of my PUG submittals were made with it. For an inexpensive, default
lens, it is surprisingly good. An acquaintance borrowed a negative shot
with it, and had a 20 x 30 print made. At any viewing distance except
right next
Regardless of what many might fear, the PUG will always be filled with
mostly Pentax made photos from mostly Pentax using people, because
people by and large, subscribe to this list because they own and use
Pentax and want to discuss some aspect of it. If I did not own it, I
would not waste my
Len wrote:
Nope, I never owned a Pentax that needed that kind of service.
Maybe the Bow wow Takumar?
Now See Here!I just had it de-wormed last week!
!8^D
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From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pel More MZ-S battery consumprion
Karen Fraser writes:
My apologies if I've misspelled your name Pel. Is it Pel or Pel?
OK that's funny :) Have
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
My first observation of the misspelled Pel was in a message from Jody some 21
hours ago:
You mean it must all be Judy's fault? Wonder who's name she will change
next.
Bob
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folks:
not being a longtime pug-ster, i'm seeking opinions on this semilong pentax
zoom.
i'm looking to use this lens for the kid's sporting events.
bodies would be the zx-m, pz-1p or mx.
how decent are the optics?
fast focusing w/the pz-1p?
what about focusing w/the manual zx-m and mx?
I have a photo that I think should be used as an example of minimum requirements for
submission to
the PUG. It is a shot of Doug Brewer (the list maintainer) taking a shot of me with
his MZ-S and a
31 mm Limited lens. It was taken with my ME Super and his 77 mm Limited.
I think that should be
On Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:31:40 -0400, Robert Harris wrote:
You mean it must all be Judy's fault? Wonder who's name she will change
next.
Well, Jody, I'll put in an order for a slash through the o in my
name. :-)
TTYL, DougF
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Rob,
Here is a second hand opinion, as I would buy the lens, but have not found it
yet.
The reputation is that this lens is excellent, better than the FA70-210/4-5.6
AF zoom. It is reputed to have an asymmetric element which shows extra care
in it's design and execution. This may also
This may be tied in to William Robb's GRAYSLAKE VETERINARY CLINIC
virus - just look at the spelling change that took place when he
later tried to spell Windoz and change browsers. Further evidence
of this virus is that my inbasket shows this thread as occuring on
a Saturday, when it really must
If you convert the hex for those characters to binary, you may
be able to determine what kind of a transformation has been
performed on them.
Len
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cy Galley
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:31
I'm with you on that Dave,
Fiordland is a must. Must be patient and wait for a break in the weather. At
that point there is no place like it. From Manapouri / Doubtful Sound to
Milford Sound, you can not pack enough film!
Annual rain fall is measured in meters - 6 to 7 per year!
If I were
Just got proofs back from the nephew's wedding. Portra was definitely a good
choice, although I credit a lot of it to a VERY good local professional
processor and printer. I had figured the Portra 800 would be more grainy,
but the grain was less than I expected. I also expected the color cast to
From: Treena Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To make this on-topic: shot the wedding with a PZ-1p w/ 500FTZ flash, and
a 645 with a Sunpak 555
w/Lumiquest softbox (first time to use it; worked GREAT).
Wow! You shot the whole wedding without any lenses?!?!? Damn, you're good
; )
Mark
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Hey Folks,
Is there anyone one with the MZ-S who's had compatibility problems with
Sigma or Tokina lenses?
Mark
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I have an MZ-S and have shot it quite a bit with a Tokina 28-70 ATX Pro II.
I haven't noted any problems of any kind. What kind of problems are you
seeing?
Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA
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From: Mark D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
See if you can help with any of the following:
Thanks,
Boz
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Missing optical diagrams:
A 100/2,8 Macro; FA* 200/4 Macro; FA 24-90/3,5-4,5;
FA 28-105/3,2-4,5; F 35-105/4-5,6; A 35-210/3,5-4,5;
M 80-200/4,5 (version 2); F*
Hi all,
I have been off-line for a while (both in the real and in the stylistic
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Anyhow, I am slowly progressing with my database idea, and I have the
first fruits from it --- a complete list of ALL missing lens
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