Re: moire effect - trouble in stills as well as DVD and video?

2004-04-22 Thread John Francis
So I saw a news item the other day that mentioned a tie Bush was wearing had such a tiny repeating pattern that the cameras got confused and there was a lot of unwanted play of light. I had earlier been told not to wear a blouse with tiny checks or pinstripes when I went to appear on

Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley
Very well done! Nicely focussed. But, still no answer to my query re wich lens was best. keith Alan Chan wrote: Here are some M135/3.5 shots. :-) http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/pentax_m13535 Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Okay, David, which was it? If your BW (prints?) are

Re:Image vs. Photo-was: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread frank theriault
I think that's why I prefer not using the word image interchangeably with photograph. Image can be painting, sketch, any sort of illustration, what's on your television screen, movie screen, whatever. So, yes, a photograph is an image. Your transportation analogy is a good one, Rob. I

CD-R lifetimes disputed

2004-04-22 Thread Gonz
Story headlined by dpreview: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486 rg

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread frank theriault
Bob, Don't hold back, now. Tell us what you ~really~ think!! vbg But, seriously, since I do walk the streets with my camera, and take photographs whilst doing so, how should I describe it? I don't describe myself as a Street Photographer, but that's because I'd prefer not to limit myself -

RE: Web Site Take Two

2004-04-22 Thread Shaun Canning
Thanks Norm! Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Web Site

Re: First (and hopefully not last) Post and using both flash connectors

2004-04-22 Thread John Forbes
I think my point was really that much of this was mother country slang, rather than specifically Australian slang. Much of it is also found in other parts of the English-speaking world, like Texas and Jamaica, which are two places you and I have in common (if I remember correctly). John On

OT: Scrabble (was Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi, annsan corrupting photographers with scrabble everywhere I don't know how things are over on your side of the dpno, but over here we are all in a state of original sin, Scrabblistically, and therefore un-(or not-further-)corruptible. Playing Scrabble with an elderly relative (or playing

Re: First (and hopefully not last) Post and using both flash connectors

2004-04-22 Thread John Forbes
You certainly wouldn't understand that out of context! John On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:19:32 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 10:11:01 AM, John wrote: It's certainly entertaining, though I don't think the author can have been to Britain. Half his words/phrases

Re:Image vs. Photo-was: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 18:39, frank theriault wrote: So, why do so many do that with the word image? Why are camera shops suddenly becoming Imaging Centres? shudder I guess for the very reason that they don't want to be tarred with just one brush. Suites me fine too, I make images, if it's a

Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 17:39, Gonz wrote: Story headlined by dpreview: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486 An interesting little article but not so relevant to me as I've just spent the last few weeks transferring a couple of hundred archive CDs

RE: Pentax history . a camera for lefties

2004-04-22 Thread Yefei He
Are the Exaktas considered left-handed? At least the shutter release is on the left side. I just can't get my left hand to grip the Exakta firmly. Yefei Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:37:46 +0200 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax history . a camera for

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 11:45:42 PM, frank wrote: I don't describe myself as a Street Photographer, but that's because I'd prefer not to limit myself - and it does sound awfully pompous. how should I describe it? Je fais la chronique de la condition humaine... :o) -- Salut! J. P.

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread frank theriault
Well, I personally can't see being mentioned in the same breath as those others, but thanks, Tom (and everyone else). I personally love Shel's work, as well as Gianfranco's. And, Tan, Paul does ~everything~ well, but maybe he (or someone) can send along his Paris gallery. Some wonderful

RE: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Bill Sawyer
Hi Mark, Interesting story, one many of us have repeated over the years, particularly if we also enjoy hiking/backpacking. Most sites devoted to the latter describe the 10 Essentials. A compass is one of them, along with a small first aid kit, a space blanket, that sort of thing. You can buy one

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread John Forbes
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:21:41 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If forced to make a decision I would probably choose Cartier-Bresson. Although he didn't invent the field he brought it to a state of almost perfection. He went beyond the fascination with the ordinary, which I think was a

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread arnie
I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi, I agree with you about the term 'street photography', but most of the alternative descriptions are pretty ghastly too. Perhaps someone can come up with a better description? photography? Why not? there was a programme on TV a few months ago about the life and career of David

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I appreciate being mentioned at all vbg, but seriously my Paris folder is only about half street photography. The other half is cliche tourist photography. But it was my first time in Paris, so I have an excuse g. Paris is at http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=311283 I

Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed

2004-04-22 Thread Steve Jolly
Hmmm, from that article it seems to me that the best way to make long-term backups on optical media would be to use CDRWs and keep them in the freezer :-) Personally my strategy of keeping everything on multiple hard disks and upgrading at regular intervals seems to be working ;-) S Gonz

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-22 Thread George Sinos
A number of people have commented on 16 or 8 bits with respect to RAW file conversion: The current issue of Photo Techniques Magazine has an excellent article written by Norman Koren on getting the most from a RAW file. While the article is not available on line, here is a link to the

Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography

2004-04-22 Thread David Weiss
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've had/seen several Retina bodies (IIIc) but have never had a IIa or IIc. How do they differ from the IIIc? Collin, Not sure this wasn't already covered, but just to chime in: The IIa is a little slimmer than the IIIc, has no meter but does have a

Re: moire effect - trouble in stills as well as DVD and video?

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 16:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Is this something that has always been a problem with video technology or is it (a) just since the digital revolution and (b) only something to worry about in MOVING images? To add to what John said it's been a problem in the printing

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Environmental Imagery ... actually, there's a term that's bantered about - Environmental Portraiture - that is used to describe portraits taken in informal, outdoors setting. BTW, here's some real street photography: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/sidewalk.html It's even made

Re: Black Crowned Night Heron (now includes toes!)

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: Thursday, April 22, 2004, 12:14:19 PM, you wrote: MR http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d400839.htm MR Mark Cassino (I think) suggested this shot would be better if it MR included all of the heron's toes. I pulled it out of the slide mount MR and, sure enough, the

Re: First (and hopefully not last) Post and using both flash connectors

2004-04-22 Thread graywolf
Yep that is pretty much what I noticed, about 1/2 his definitions are English Slang, not Aussie Slang, common even here in the US. John Forbes wrote: It's certainly entertaining, though I don't think the author can have been to Britain. Half his words/phrases are found in Britain, and most,

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Most 'street photography' is itself pointless, exploitative, vacuous crap masquerading as insight and concern, but hiding a boundless vapidity. Its pompous, pseudo-profundity is chaff thrown out to hide the true depths of its shallowness. And Tanya once asked why the women of the

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thursday, April 22, 2004, 11:45:42 PM, frank wrote: I don't describe myself as a Street Photographer, but that's because I'd prefer not to limit myself - and it does sound awfully pompous. how should I describe it? Je fais la chronique de la condition

RE: OT - Australians only

2004-04-22 Thread Simon King
Hi Cotty, I used to go out with a girl who's mothers name was Edna Brady. If she was dyslexic would that help? Simon ...and just before you go... Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac? He lay awake wondering if there was a dog. -Original Message- From: Cotty

Re: OT - Australians only

2004-04-22 Thread Brian Walters
This has been bugging me since yesterday. I KNEW that I'd heard the name and it rang bells for my wife as well. I've actually heard him. He occasionally turns up on Sydney radio when the regular UK correspondent (Malcolm Stewart?) is on hols. Avagoodweekend all.. Brian

Re: what's your favorite Pentax macro?

2004-04-22 Thread Bob Blakely
May sound strange, but I like my Bellows 100/4. Unfortunately, if you buy one, you need the bellows or the helical extension (and perhaps extension tubes). Regards, Bob... A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread frank theriault
Shel, I can play, too: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr/t_brush.html (taken from this month's PUG) HAR!! -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Environmental

Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Bob Blakely
A pocket GPS is of immense help. It shows your origin position and also allows you to back track your route. I use mine all the time when hunting or going into unfamiliar territory. Regards, Bob... A lie gets halfway around the world before the

RE: First (and hopefully not last) Post and using both flash connectors

2004-04-22 Thread Simon King
Hi Brian, Welcome! Rob wrote: there are a few more on the peripheries too The rate that Sydney is expanding I guess you could say that Perth was on the periphery. The ultimate Western Suburb. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Disgusting things that people eat

2004-04-22 Thread Simon King
Or the parson's nose... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2004 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disgusting things that people eat Marnie quoted and posted: In a message dated 4/21/2004 5:55:18 PM Pacific Standard

Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Bob Blakely
That's right. He merely misplaced himself for a short time. Regards, Bob... A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. - Winston Churchill From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:09 AM 23/04/2004,

Re: K Mount DSLR?

2004-04-22 Thread Herb Chong
FWIW, Canon and Nikon have recently announced that they will, between the two of them, manufacture 2.3 million or so DSLRs this year. at one time, analysts expected that about 2.2 million DSLRs would be sold in 2004, 2 million of which would be accounted for by Canon and Nikon. the increase in

Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread mapson
At 10:25 AM 23/04/2004, you wrote: A pocket GPS is of immense help. GPS is for softies! Real adventurers do it the way Mark did! ;-) (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread graywolf
Street Photography originally meant setting up to taking photos of people on the street for two-bits. Much like those guys at fairs do today, only they want $15-20 now. I think the photo booths put them out of business long ago. Now try finding a photo booth -- Bob W wrote: Hi,

Re: digital cameras and filter use

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Cassino
At 06:45 PM 4/22/2004 +0200, you wrote: 1. What kind of filters if any do digital photographers still use? Only effect filters or some kind of correcting filters too or is everything made later with software? I don't use toning filters - like warming or cooling - since that can be

Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread graywolf
I missed the start of this thread, but it is very easy to get lost in a mature forest. Thousands of trees, all pretty much the same, little underbrush, the sky is not visible, no individual shadows. As I said, easy to get turned around and not have any idea which way is what. Not the same as

Re: Pentax history . a camera for lefties

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Kodak, from the 1940's one of the most advanced camera systems of it's time and it was designed by a left handed engineer. You can read about it here: http://www.cameraquest.com/ektra.htm Markus Maurer wrote: Hi does anybody know whether Pentax ever considered constructing a camera for

Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread graywolf
I usually just as an indian. Fortunately I have never met two at a time in the woods, so I never have had to figure out which one was lying. -- Mark Roberts wrote: I always carry a compass with me when I'm shooting in the woods (or the mountains or the moors or...). Mostly it's for locating

Re: OT - Australians only

2004-04-22 Thread Ryan Lee
yeah wasn't he the brother of the dyslexic devil-worshipper who sold his soul to Santa? (oldie but goodie!) Ryan - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: RE: OT - Australians only ...and just before

Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
The IIc is a meter less IIIc the space taken by the meter is, well it's gone. Makes for a somewhat more compact body. The IIa if I remember correctly has a fixed f2.0 lens in place of the interchangeable lenses on the IIc and IIIc. Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've had/seen several Retina

Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
The IIIC also came with a f2.0 50mm as well, IIRC. Keith Whaley wrote: Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've had/seen several Retina bodies (IIIc) but have never had a IIa or IIc. How do they differ from the IIIc? Cord has some nice old Schneider Retina lenses if anyone is interested. And

Re: Black Crowned Night Heron (now includes toes!)

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sorry, Mark your site still times out for me. Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d400839.htm Mark Cassino (I think) suggested this shot would be better if it included all of the heron's toes. I pulled it out of the slide mount and, sure enough, the toes were there! I

Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 19:24, Joseph Tainter wrote: Rob wrote: I put my success down to sensible writing methods and storage procedures. Rob, what are your sensible writing methods? Use a recognized brand name writer with good driver/software support and mainstream branded media. Use blank

Re: moire effect - trouble in stills as well as DVD and video?

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's always been a problem with video technology. Ann Sanfedele wrote: So I saw a news item the other day that mentioned a tie Bush was wearing had such a tiny repeating pattern that the cameras got confused and there was a lot of unwanted play of light. I had earlier been told not to wear a

Re: Disgusting things that people eat

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Chicken Tail. (Really good if crispy). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/22/2004 6:01:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or the parson's nose... That's one I haven't heard before. What is that? Marnie aka Doe

Re: Pentax history . a camera for lefties

2004-04-22 Thread graywolf
Actually Exaktas are not really left handed. They were just designed to be used on a copy stand. So mounted they make perfect sense. -- Yefei He wrote: Are the Exaktas considered left-handed? At least the shutter release is on the left side. I just can't get my left hand to grip the Exakta

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread graywolf
No, Shel, that is sidewalk photography. GRIN Shel Belinkoff wrote: Environmental Imagery ... actually, there's a term that's bantered about - Environmental Portraiture - that is used to describe portraits taken in informal, outdoors setting. BTW, here's some real street photography:

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread ernreed2
Andre said, among other things: Certainly a black MX or black ME (the most quiet M camera if I remember) would be a more discreet camera. Not a lot of noise difference between MX and ME Super, to my ear. Or perhaps I should say, more accurately, between Ken Archer's ME Super and my MX. Just

Re: Disgusting things that people eat

2004-04-22 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
OMG - EVERY time I cook a chook, my hubby BEGS for it! How disgusting! tan. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Disgusting things that people eat In a message dated 4/22/2004 6:01:25 PM Pacific Standard

Re: Disgusting things that people eat

2004-04-22 Thread ernreed2
In a message dated 4/22/2004 6:01:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or the parson's nose... That's one I haven't heard before. What is that? Marnie aka Doe Some feature of a chicken, or so I've heard. Nowhere near the nose. ERN

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley
Bob W wrote: Hi, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 11:45:42 PM, frank wrote: I don't describe myself as a Street Photographer, but that's because I'd prefer not to limit myself - and it does sound awfully pompous. how should I describe it? Je fais la chronique de la condition humaine... :o) Of

Re: OT - Why preflash? (was:Re: DSLR slide duplicator)

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Farr
I wrote: Gamma (also written as the infinity symbol, IIRC) . WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! Shame on me for not checking, and shame on list-members who should have known and didn't spot my mistake. Gamma is written as the Greek letter gamma, of course. Sort of like a handwritten y but

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Environmental Imagery ... actually, there's a term that's bantered about - Environmental Portraiture - that is used to describe portraits taken in informal, outdoors setting. BTW, here's some real street photography:

Re: annsan's photos hit the big screen - yippie!

2004-04-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] joyfully wrote: Woo woo WORD WARS is gettin in the theatres! I'm forwarding the producer/director's schedule notes to that other list I'm on. That's great, Ann! Congratulations!!! Now I hope I can have the chance to see it

Re: Disgusting things that people eat

2004-04-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Peter J. Alling wrote: Chicken Tail. (Really good if crispy). Actually, I love Cantonese style chicken feet and duck web... but I can't stomach (hehe) innards annsan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/22/2004 6:01:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or

Re: OT - Australians only

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Farr
- Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac? He lay awake wondering if there was a dog. Biddelonian* graffiti: LYSDEXIA RULES, KO! regards, Anthony Farr (* An old variety show on Ausie TV invented the fictional

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I cannot answer your first question as I don't do much of street photography though I am standing and hesitating and fumbling and humbling all over it... (Hope I did not misuse the language again g). jjc The second part would be who is your favorite street jjc shooter, past or present, and

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! SB I got 20 shots off ... Oh, is the subject dead, or did SB you just carefully bracket your exposures? Nope, subject is on their way to the optometrist to check fl-a/e-sh damage. ROFL. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: OT: Scrabble (was Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Hi, annsan corrupting photographers with scrabble everywhere I don't know how things are over on your side of the dpno, but over here we are all in a state of original sin, Scrabblistically, and therefore un-(or not-further-)corruptible. Playing Scrabble with an elderly

Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed

2004-04-22 Thread John Poirier
Hi. This is a bit off-topic but an important subject given the growing prevalence of digital, so I'll step in. As a photograher specializing in archival access and preservation, I would endorse a combination of Rob's approach (sensible burning, particulary with file verification) with Steve's

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i

Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley
Peter J. Alling wrote: The IIIC also came with a f2.0 50mm as well, IIRC. I didn't particularly want to start quoting specs, but yes, you're right, the 50mm f/2.0 Retina-Xenon C was mounted on both the IIIc and IIIC Retina III's that were exported to the U.S. of A. Interestingly, my copy of

Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Paul
I'm doing some research on the topic of street photography and the question has several parts. The first,to keep it on topic, is what Pentax camera and lens(es) make the best street shooting combo and why? Pop Photo just did and article on street photography and mentioned the K1000 and a

Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley
Peter J. Alling wrote: The IIc is a meter less IIIc the space taken by the meter is, well it's gone. Makes for a somewhat more compact body. The IIa if I remember correctly has a fixed f2.0 lens in place of the interchangeable lenses on the IIc and IIIc. To be pedantic about it, the IIc and

RE: First (and hopefully not last) Post and using both flash connectors

2004-04-22 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks Simon Perth a suburb of Sydney - you sandgropers won't like that! Sydney's expansion is a bit of a worry, though. I can get on a train at Penrith and be in the centre of Perth in a couple of days. The way things are going it will soon take the same time to reach the centre of Sydney!

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