Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?

2005-07-02 Thread Juey Chong Ong
A few are free, the others are low-cost: http://www.varis.com/Navigation/Steps.html

Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark

2005-07-02 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Those aren't weeds, they are daisies and poppys... Daisies? No. These are Scentless Chamomiles (Matricaria perforata), which is a very annoying weed in the grain fields

Re: OT: NYC Will Never Be the Same

2005-07-02 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:31 AM, frank theriault wrote: ... Having a great time chatting with Ann, whose hospitality is (as one would expect) first rate. More later (if I survive this city LOL). With Ann as your guide, you'll be fine. Welcome to NYC! from the other side of the Hudson, --jc

Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark

2005-07-02 Thread keithw
Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Those aren't weeds, they are daisies and poppys... Daisies? No. These are Scentless Chamomiles (Matricaria perforata), which is a very annoying weed

PESO: Out of time

2005-07-02 Thread Albano Garcia
Hi gang, http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=91#comments Comments (here and/or on website) welcome Regards Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread danilo
But as luck would have it, taste changed (got better to my eye), and Vincent's paintings are now worth millions. Luckily enough they are not going to be sell easily (if not at all, I *pray* they'll never go into a private house) so we can enjoy them in that wonderful (and strongly doped!)

RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Bob W
And you think a photo that will sell, has? You're talking out of your arse. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 July 2005 11:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! a photo that won't sell

Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark

2005-07-02 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, you're totally right. Any plant growning in an area you don't WANT it to grow is a weed, by definition! If you have a rutabaga patch, and you find rare orchids growing there, by golly, they're WEEDS! LOL. I see your point,

Re: PESO: two images from my project

2005-07-02 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! The first one is a nice strong photo. The second has no context or story, and offers little to involve the viewer. How nice it is to know that you sometimes work late and eat supper at work. What is your project? If these are two images from the same

PESO - Cliff Dweller

2005-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540

2005-07-02 Thread FlubADub
Thanks for the nice offering on our memorial. I remember that day very well. It was shortly after my old-fashioned windup clock had finished chiming. I was some six miles north of the blast site. Suddenly a roar. The earth trembled. The glass in the building rattled. The very air inside my

Re: Buying lenses new - having a question

2005-07-02 Thread Cotty
As Will Robb will confirm, a 60mm on the Digis becomes a 90, On 2/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: AAAHHH. Hook, line, and sinker. Why Bob I'm surprised at you Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Herb Chong
a while ago you said that he sold a few. make up your mind. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Let me connect the dots for you Herb. You

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Herb Chong
did i say that it had to have been sold? i said that it will sell. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters! And you think a photo that will sell, has?

Re: Don't need no stinkin' judges Was: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: You want something that sells and a good marketing strategy? Take photos of nekkid tits, blow 'um up to 8x10 glossy. Stand on any corner near a junior high and hawk 'um to trans pubescent, pimple faced boys for a few $ a pop. That'll be me.

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Cotty
Yeah, so like I was saying, there's this geezer right, and blow me if he isn't related to my dear old aunt Winnie's butcher. Well, the next thing you know he's in there like a shot and helping her do the old place up. Well I tell you, my old man nearly had a fit, he. (with apologies to Tony

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How does one know that something will sell until it sells? Shel [Original Message] From: Herb Chong did i say that it had to have been sold? i said that it will sell. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W And you think a photo that will sell, has? You're talking

Re: PESO - Cliff Dweller

2005-07-02 Thread keithw
Bruce Dayton wrote: Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm Comments welcome *I* like it! ;-) keith

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Read ALL of Herb's comments. He's evaluating the worth of a photo by its marketability. He looks at pictures that way. You look at pictures with a different viewpoint, I look at them by a

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! So I would generalize and say that depending on current public taste to 'sell' anything as a judge for it's artistic merit or overall worth is a slippery slope to be standing on. You might want

Lens Test: Need Help

2005-07-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Does anyone have (a) the December 2000 issue of Popular Photography, (b) a flatbed scanner, and (c) willingness to scan and e-mail a lens test to me? It is the test of the Sigma 180 mm macro. This one predates Pop's online test archives. If so, please contact me off-list: jtainter at

Re: PESO: My dragonfly...

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... I think it's great that you were inspired and willing to share. I have had precious little luck in photographing bug like Mark. I think you are on the right road - found, captured and now to find out the

Re: GESO: shots in New York

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: GESO: shots in New York As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... They renamed Frenchman's Island, did they? W.W...

Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Recomendations on where to upload public images So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the

Re: PESO - Haze

2005-07-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but depressing. Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos? Joe

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540

2005-07-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/7/05, FlubADub, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks for the nice offering on our memorial. I remember that day very well. [Bizarre extract snipped] Did I miss a few posts or what? . Enough maudlin comments. Lets get back to Pentax photography! Only a small detour then... Galloway, lurker

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Herb Chong
you don't, but you can develop a very good idea by placing your work in front of people all the time, especially people who are accomplished photographers or artists in other media. accomplished could be commercial success, but it's enough to be respected by their peers. if you can generate a

Re: PESO: My dragonfly...

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... on his sight. U, that shoud be site, as in website William Robb

RE: Recomendations on where to upload public images

2005-07-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
Yes it does, but I want to be part of a community of fellow freaks. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb

Re: PESO - Haze

2005-07-02 Thread Herb Chong
i looked up some color Ansel Adams photos of the area. his pictures had some haze. not as much as i see in Bruce's but it's there. the saturation is markedly higher in the Adam's photos, partly because of the greater visibility. these days, it seems you get those really clear shots only right

Re: PESO - Haze

2005-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
As I am shooting in Raw, I leave the camera setting to AWB. Capture One is really not set up with setings, but with two white balance scales - one in kelvin temperature and the other green/magenta. I can go back and look at those settings if you want. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2,

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Gee Herb, I don't know exactly how many paintings Van Gogh sold during his lifetime, if any. I do know that he lived on the support of others, died without money, and was distraught by the lack of acceptance (SELLING) of his paintings. You can look the facts up and argue minor points with me.

Re: PESO - Cliff Dweller

2005-07-02 Thread Rick Womer
Beautiful, Bruce! I really like the out-of-focus background, which is usually the whole shot! Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540

2005-07-02 Thread Cotty
Apologies, Flubadub. A moving account of an obviously distressing time. Please remember to change the subject line when replying from the digest version of the list, otherwise it may not be immediately apparent what the body of the message is in response to. I finally figured it out. Thanks for

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Herb, I don't really disagree with what you are saying here, but I do have to say that as I have observed different genres of photography, there comes to be some expectations about how they should look. Unfortunately, this can leads towards a little less creativity and more of mimickry.

Re: Lens Test: Need Help

2005-07-02 Thread SonC
In a message dated 7/2/2005 4:59:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have (a) the December 2000 issue of Popular Photography, (b) a flatbed scanner, and (c) willingness to scan and e-mail a lens test to me? It is the test of the Sigma 180 mm macro. This one

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Herb Chong
there is no shame in imitating when learning. it's the acid test of originality and vision to see if you can get beyond imitating. that's when you are contributing something to the art instead of just the volume. there are three or so working pros in the area i like to photograph besides myself

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! And some pictures are superb in every respect, but, for whatever reason, have not sold. That does not make them junk. And some photos which are pretty bad in many respects have found buyers, but

RE: PESO: My dragonfly...

2005-07-02 Thread Don Sanderson
I'd say his _sight_ is pretty good too! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:08 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... - Original Message - From: William Robb Subject:

RE: PESO - Cliff Dweller

2005-07-02 Thread Don Sanderson
Magnificent Bruce. Don -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:35 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Cliff Dweller Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I can usually tell what will sell as stock. Experience is a great teacher. In galleries, it's more difficult to say, although scenics and still lifes definitely outsell people pics. My best seller, gallery and stock, is a flower pic. It's the same shot that's had the most hits on my PhotoNet

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Robb wrote: I wonder what a factory original, mint condition Edsel would go for these days? William Robb About 25,000.

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Robb wrote: I wonder what a factory original, mint condition Edsel would go for these days? About 25,000. Are they still junk? Or have the years

I love it! I love it! K24/2.8 is here.

2005-07-02 Thread Don Sanderson
What a wonderful lens! I've wanted one for ages, finally found one I could afford. Unscrew the rear group, blow the dust out, like new! Samples: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/24_28.htm (About 270KB) Don (Thrilled!)

Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!

2005-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Restored Edsels are nice cars and good conversation pieces.. They were more ugly than bad. And now that ugliness is somewhat of a novelty. They did have a lot of power accessories that were still in the infant stages of development, so there were some glitches, particularly in the first year

sabine

2005-07-02 Thread SonC
Missed a turn in Mansfield last night and had to go 30 miles out of my way; I passed through a time warp, I guess. http://www.sonc.com/sabine.htm Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish

Re: I love it! I love it! K24/2.8 is here.

2005-07-02 Thread Mishka
it's a gem, i love mine (although it's an A). congrats! mishka On 7/2/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a wonderful lens! I've wanted one for ages, finally found one I could afford. Unscrew the rear group, blow the dust out, like new! Samples:

Re: GESO: shots in New York

2005-07-02 Thread Mishka
is that in mcdonalds bay? mishka On 7/2/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... They renamed Frenchman's Island, did they? W.W...

Re: sabine

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sabine Missed a turn in Mansfield last night and had to go 30 miles out of my way; I passed through a time warp, I guess. http://www.sonc.com/sabine.htm Think time exposure to give it that truly dated look. William Robb

Re: PESO: two images from my project

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! So its title, then, could be Lunchtime with Boris? Eleanor, you see, Lunchtime with Boris could be a title to a TV show, but unlike certain list member(s) I shot only stills ;-)... Boris P.S. What did I do wrong, that my mere P.S. in the original message gets so picked upon?

Re: GESO: shots in New York

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... They renamed Frenchman's Island, did they? Bill, don't you have any mercy? Boris

Re: I love it! I love it! K24/2.8 is here.

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! What a wonderful lens! I've wanted one for ages, finally found one I could afford. Unscrew the rear group, blow the dust out, like new! Samples: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/24_28.htm Don, that's one of the few lenses that does not necessarily have to be replaced with modern (24/2)

To Herb Chong et al

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Herb, I followed the no stinking filters thread for some time. I have a question. You may argue that if a photo sold, it means that it managed to overcome some competition... Hence it is rather good one... What about those photos that participate in (international) contests and get

Re: PESO: The Nabours Harley

2005-07-02 Thread David Savage
Try here Mark. http://www.crazy-frogs.com/ Proof positive that just because it sells doesn't make it good. :-) Dave On 7/2/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we know: Mark Roberts _is_ the Crazy Frog!!! I think I'm missing some point of

Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! www.webaperture.com (free) www.photosig.com (paysite) www.photo.net (paysite) www.fotocommunity.com (paysite) Even though webaperture is free, I don't like it. Fotocommunity is my favourite. Simple design, and you get a lot of storage space for your money. Second that, Jostein. I

Re: GESO: shots in New York

2005-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: GESO: shots in New York Bill, don't you have any mercy? Not when cheap humour is at stake. WW..

Re: PESO: subject interaction

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hi, here is a pair of shots I made a few weeks ago at a concert in our local botanic garden: http://www.vollholz.de/peso/frau_j.html (taken with my Vivitar S1 3.5/70-210 (2nd version) fairly wide open AFAIR, on superia 100) They made me think of the long discussion about sniping or

Re: PESO: Out of time

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hi gang, http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=91#comments Comments (here and/or on website) welcome Regards I think that the cat looking down and Gracias! on the top right complete the shot. I would consider to crop a bit on the left, so that no incomplete cloth-stand parts would

Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Throughout the holiday, I had problems concentrating properly when out shooting. I'm pretty sure it was the pollen concentration in the air. Last night, I prepped myself to saturation with anti-allergy chemistry and dared a trip into the fields. Normally, it's just my eyes and nose that

Re: GESO: shots in New York

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Bill, don't you have any mercy? Not when cheap humour is at stake. WW.. That's acceptable. You're on, mr Robb ;-). Boris

Re: PESO: My dragonfly...

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Being inspired by Mark's stunning images I thought I'd try some bug shots myself. I wandered around the small park behind my house and came across this guy, who was kind enough to stay in one place long enough for me to take a few shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/23042647/

Re: PESO - Cliff Dweller

2005-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm One cannot beat the Dead Horse enough ;-)... Bruce, should I say I hate you?

Re: Grandpa's Lil Wonder

2005-07-02 Thread David Savage
Catching up on some old mails. That is one very intense looking young man :-) As everyone has said the lighting is beautiful the pose is fantastic. Great shot Jay. Dave On 6/28/05, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a shot of my grandson, one of which I really like. Captured with

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