PESO: Others 2005 - 40p - GDG (Norcal PDML meeting)

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
One photograph I made with my camera phone that I like a lot ... It reminds me of some of my Minox work at the Tate Modern. http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/40p.htm Comments, critique, flames all appreciated. enjoy Godfrey

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 9, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: go out with a prime lens - 24mm through 50mm. A zoom allows you to cheat. one lens, work close. When you get good with it, then move to other focal lengths or zooms.. I can't speak for Godfrey ... I use both zooms and primes, but the zoom

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Sorry, Paul Capa did not mean to fill the frame using long lenses. getting in close gives more intimate results. You seem to like a more "voyeuristic" approach to photography - that's fine for you. Getting close does not mean getting in someone's face - depending on what you mean by that. your

Re: Poll: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It might help if I knew what the "PUG" was. I've been on this list since about February, seen an occasional comment about a PUG theme or something, otherwise haven't a clue as to what it's all about. I'm exaggerating, of course, but I've seen no effort made to explain what it's about or mot

Re: PESO(s) - 2 more - Whatizit/Cowboy

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 9, 2005, at 5:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two more from the Norcal PDML Meet until I post a GESO with shots of PDMLers in about a week. Whatizit? http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/whatizit.htm Ride 'em Cowboy http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/cowboy.htm I did

Re: PESO The ex's

2005-10-09 Thread Peter McIntosh
Rob Studdert wrote: Oh and one pic completely removed from my recent trip: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP6829.jpg (~115kB) That could almost be the Nullabor: road's straight enough... Ciao, Peter in Sydney

Re: OT: Laptops

2005-10-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Oct 2005 at 23:04, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I've seen several with Memory Stick and SD card slots but none with CF. Nothing a PCMCIA to CF adaptor wouldn't solve in any case. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail

Re: OT: Laptops

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've seen several with Memory Stick and SD card slots but none with CF. Godfrey On Oct 9, 2005, at 5:32 PM, Yisroel Spanier wrote: Hey Everyone, Are there loptops with a built-in compact flash slot? I figure if I'm already buying, I should get one that goes all the way. I see models with SD s

RE: PESO The ex's

2005-10-09 Thread Gautam Sarup
Rob, > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP6829.jpg (~115kB) Nice to see someone driving on the left (the right side) of the road. :) Gautam > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:22 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.

Re: OT: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 8, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Bob Shell wrote: http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=1509 Unlike you, I've liked the ergonomics of Minolta's recent cameras. But that's just a personal preference thing, like whether you like chocolate or vanilla better. Yes, it is a

Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg Nice. I'd crop down on the right ... at least far enough to remove the man who's looking out at the street. It's a bit of a distraction. Godfrey

test prints

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
long busy weekend. finally had time to do a couple of test prints with the Epson R2400. all i can say is "!YES!" B&W looks great, so does color, on Epson Heavyweight Matte. I'm very pleased. :-) Godfrey

Re: 15mm brick wall test

2005-10-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Oct 2005 at 1:00, Jim King wrote: > Derby- > > Thanks for posting your photos taken with the K15/3.5. They > certainly look sharper than my results with the A15/3.5. These > lenses are supposed to have the same design, but my A15 shows very > poor sharpness at the edges and in the c

Re: 15mm brick wall test

2005-10-09 Thread Jim King
Derby- Thanks for posting your photos taken with the K15/3.5. They certainly look sharper than my results with the A15/3.5. These lenses are supposed to have the same design, but my A15 shows very poor sharpness at the edges and in the corners unless stopped down to f11. Results with m

Re: PESO The ex's

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I'm currently in re-working library mode and I stumbled across this little pic of some of my ex's in my archives: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P1314302f.jpg (~200kB) Rob, by deep and sincere condolences... ;-) Oh and one pic completely removed from my recent trip: http:/

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! It was pretty informal. Some discussion of focal length used and stuff. I can't remember enough to really summarize. Both Juan and Godfrey gave tips, and I can't attribute what was said by whom. One used 24mm focal length, one uses f/8 and shoot. Godfrey, I think, said he normally took a s

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! are you offering to get me one for christmas? You're so sweet. Sadly not. I am sweet though :-) Cotty is read-headed... ;-) Boris

Re: PESO - Chicago Marathon

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! After all this discussion about PUG vs PAW and PESO's, I'll waste some bandwith with picture of what I did today. It was a great day for the Chicago Marathon. A bunch of Kenyans won. Here in the 12th mile, the eventual winner (#3) keeps an eye on the field. http://members.aol.com/rf

Re: PESO: A Walk In The Rose Garden - Original Images

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Okay, by popular demand, here is the original image: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/gallery/Red_Cape_Original.jpg Glen, great many thanks. I am fascinated by the path you went from the original image to the final one... It is most interesting and I did learn something this time ;-)

Re: PAW: Covoiturage

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Autumn gives some nice evening lights here in southern France. I usually get back home too late to take much advantage of this, so let's find an alternate way to produce some image. http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/paw/Covoiturage.jpg.html BTW, _I_ was not driving ;-) Patrice, go

Re: PESO -- Off Road III (The Challenge)

2005-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Not many seemed to like the Egret so now for something completely different... I started shooting this little car last summer. It was moved to a slightly different location. http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_offroad3.html technical info: Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/200sec smc

PESO The ex's

2005-10-09 Thread Rob Studdert
I'm currently in re-working library mode and I stumbled across this little pic of some of my ex's in my archives: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P1314302f.jpg (~200kB) Oh and one pic completely removed from my recent trip: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP6829.jpg (~11

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread George Sinos
Cotty wrote, requesting info on a digital camera primer. Cotty - I teach a couple of non-credit courses at the local community college. The materials at this site seem to work very well for beginners. In particular "a short course in choosing a digital camera" and

Re: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/9/2005 6:23:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not learning much from the PAW and PESO photos and the contributors are often the same small group of folks. I wish we had wider participation from the group and a more meaningful discussion of the photos

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
can't suggest how you might want to do insect and flower photography - i've no experience with that. don't know anything about "locking" a zoom lens. Talk to stenquist about that ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: skye > Ahh.. I get it. So I could use my 24-135 as long as I lock it to 2

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
juan, did i get back to you on the 20mm? I've been so preoccupied with a few medical issues I may have overlooked it. Anyway, my friend doesn't have the M20mm. I really missed being there yesterday. Spent most of the day nursing my painfully infected and swollen arm, knocked on my ass by the m

PESO - Chicago Marathon

2005-10-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
After all this discussion about PUG vs PAW and PESO's, I'll waste some bandwith with picture of what I did today. It was a great day for the Chicago Marathon. A bunch of Kenyans won. Here in the 12th mile, the eventual winner (#3) keeps an eye on the field. http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/m

Re: PESO(s) - 2 more - Whatizit/Cowboy

2005-10-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/9/2005 5:54:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like Whatzit. Interesting, graphic image. Well composed and framed. Good eye, Marnie. Paul Thanks, Paul. You got out of it what I thought I saw. Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Juan Buhler
On 10/9/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > go out with a prime lens - 24mm through 50mm. A zoom allows you to cheat. > one lens, work close. When you get good with it, then move to other focal > lengths or zooms.. I can't speak for Godfrey, but Juan and I have gone out > shooting a f

Re: PESO - Sanderlings in flight

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id35.html > > >http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic2.html > >> >> But what is it with the sudden trend towards Theriaultean Wildlife >> Photography? I guess I'll

Re: Informal Synchronicity

2005-10-09 Thread Tom C
I'm starting to work on it this week. Hope to have it ready/up within the next 7 days. I just changed projects/contracts and time has been tight. If anyone still has a photo they'd like to submit, taken within 24 hours, either side of the equinox, please send it to me with in the next two day

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Rising on a point of personal privilege, Mr. Cotty >sir: > >We in Philadelphia are not in the habit of passing >Boddington's, or any other beer, through our noses, >either incoming or outgoing. > >They do that in Pittsburgh, though. Man, you ought to see som

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Rick Womer
Rising on a point of personal privilege, Mr. Cotty sir: We in Philadelphia are not in the habit of passing Boddington's, or any other beer, through our noses, either incoming or outgoing. They do that in Pittsburgh, though. Rick --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/10/05, Mark Roberts,

Re: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
I rarely comment on PAW and PESO photos. The PDML is difficult to keep up with and the commentary is difficult to sort. I'm not prepared to stop and view and comment on every picture that comes thru. I much prefer to put all the comments for the PUG aside and review the gallery when I have time

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I could be wrong, but I always took Capa's comments to mean "fill the frame," rather than "get in someone's face." I've had good luck with both long and short lenses on the street. It depends on whether one wants to catch their subjects unaware or record the reaction to the camera and intrusion

Re: PESO(s) - 2 more - Whatizit/Cowboy

2005-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like Whatzit. Interesting, graphic image. Well composed and framed. Good eye, Marnie. Paul On 10/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Two more from the Norcal PDML Meet until I post a GESO with shots of PDMLers in about a week. Whatizit? http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/p

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/9/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep. Other end of the state. Pennsylvania has been described as > consisting of "Pittsburgh at one end, Philadelphia at the other and > Alabama in between". Not entirely inaccurate... > Just a sec while I correct my address. -- Scott Loveles

RE: Poll: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Evan Hanson
Yes. I never tire of seeing quality work.

Re: PESO: Pictures from a Vacation VIII

2005-10-09 Thread Tom Reese
> >> >>BRED ugh > >> > > >> >That's the sort of mistake that makes your forehead and say "dough!" > >> > >> AAARGH. I'm not rising to this Roberts. > > > >Aw, go ahead. It's the yeast you could do. > > Well, he is a member of the upper crust. This thread has gone completely a-rye. Tom Reese

Re: PESO(s) - 2 more - Whatizit/Cowboy

2005-10-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/9/2005 12:27:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, when I am done editing the image in the full size I usually do the following. 1. Resize it to whatever size I like. Generally it is order of 700 pixels for landscape and 650 pixels for portrait ori

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 9, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Bob W wrote: Encourage them to read this: http://www.emula3.com/docs/OnComputableNumbers.pdf Excellent reading, thank you! Godfrey

Re: PESO: Pictures from a Vacation VIII

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>BRED ugh >> > >> >That's the sort of mistake that makes your forehead and say "dough!" >> >> AAARGH. I'm not rising to this Roberts. > >Aw, go ahead. It's the yeast you could do. Well, he is a member of the upper crust. -- Mark Roberts Photography

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread graywolf
Hey, there is Mansfield where my grandma lived. Of course when I went through there a few years back it was nothing like I remembered from the mid-50's. Not only was my grandma's house not there, neither was the town park across the street. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <

Re: PESO: Pictures from a Vacation VIII

2005-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom Reese" Subject: Re: PESO: Pictures from a Vacation VIII Aw, go ahead. It's the yeast you could do. So proving that the bun *is* the lowest form of wheat. William Robb

OT: Laptops

2005-10-09 Thread Yisroel Spanier
Hey Everyone, Are there loptops with a built-in compact flash slot? I figure if I'm already buying, I should get one that goes all the way. I see models with SD slots... arnie

Re: PESO: Pictures from a Vacation VIII

2005-10-09 Thread Tom Reese
> >>BRED ugh > > > >That's the sort of mistake that makes your forehead and say "dough!" > > AAARGH. I'm not rising to this Roberts. Aw, go ahead. It's the yeast you could do. Tom Reese

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
An interesting image. I'm amazed to see his coat so uniform and attractive. It almost looks like he combed it when he got up. I'm undecided about the framing and composition. It's unique, but I'm not totally at ease with the bear poking in from one side and filling less than half the frame. But

Re: Poll: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/9/2005 3:51:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I hope Bill does not mind. You know he is really a Klingon? Had his ridges ironed out... Cheers, Cotty Or he met up with a tribble. Marnie aka Doe Couldn't resist.

Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-09 Thread Glen
At 01:16 PM 10/5/2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Choosing a name for the site is eluding me. My name is long and cumbersome, and something shorter, easier to remember, and with a little more punch may be a better choice. Any suggestions on naming conventions - not specifically a name - would be he

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Digital Primer? Can anyone recommend a digital camera primer? I use CIL primers all the time. Easy to apply, quick drying and a really smooth base coat. HTH WW

Re: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread John Coyle
As an occasional contributor (and even more occasional commentator!) I find the PUG a very valuable source of inspiration, and a real window on the world. I'd be very unhappy to see it dropped - while not having any particular skills that I'm aware of that might assist, I'd be happy to volu

Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-09 Thread Tom Reese
> Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On 6/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>> Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-) > >> > >>For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty. > > > >Yeah but I have dreams. > > The rest of us are gonna have nightmares from the ima

RE: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10 October 2005 00:04 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Digital Primer? > > "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Encourage them to read this: > >http://www.emula3.com/docs/OnComputableNumbers.pdf >

Comments on PUG October

2005-10-09 Thread Markus Maurer
some comments on the "Kitsch" theme: Kitschy Sunset - Jens Bladt --- A very warm and peaceful panorama shot which reminds me of the "kitsch" photo wallpaper of colorful autumn forests and sunsets that where so popular here when I was a teenager. I like Jens' Panorama's too

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread John Forbes
Excellent! My turn to reverse the direction of flow of the liquid refreshment. John On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:57:48 +0100, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You know, if this photo were framed with the bear a little lower, with the empty sp

Re: Lunch!

2005-10-09 Thread Tom Reese
> >> Nasty lady. > >> > > Oxymoron? > > redundancy? > you can say that again!

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On 9/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>>Oh thanks. I just sprayed Boddington's all over my keyboard. >>>Through my nose. >> >> Tell you what, they're effing weird in Philly. By a country mile

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
How about "Bear Bait: Another use for the photographer's assistant" Or, "Make sure you assistant runs slower than you". Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear "

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
No Cotty, I believe he's the Pitts, as in Pittsburgh. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Digital Primer? On 9/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Oh thanks. I jus

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hey Mark - sign me up, I'll take a year's subscription! >Rotflmao >Could have used an article on "Food, the ultimate bear getter, for those >hard to photograph bears" How about "Bear Bait: Another use for the photographer's assistant" -- Mark Rob

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 9/10/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> "If your photos aren't good enough, you're not >>close enough." The very next time i went out I grabbed a 35mm lens and >>~forced~ myself to work close. > >Don't even start thinking about shooting until

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Hey Mark - sign me up, I'll take a year's subscription! Rotflmao Could have used an article on "Food, the ultimate bear getter, for those hard to photograph bears" Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 6:57 PM

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 9/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> >>You all saw this coming, didn't you? >>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/kensbear.jpg >>Sorry. Couldn't help myself. > >Har! > >Nice bokeh on some of the text ;-) > >C'mon mate, let's have a link to Cottyc

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Encourage them to read this: >http://www.emula3.com/docs/OnComputableNumbers.pdf > >They should be able to figure out the rest themselves. Have you sent a copy to Ken Rockwell? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Oh thanks. I just sprayed Boddington's all over my keyboard. >Through my nose. Tell you what, they're effing weird in Philly. By a country mile. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.c

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Mark Agreed. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 6:21 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John, I agree with you here. When you get to the point where cap

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >You all saw this coming, didn't you? >http://www.robertstech.com/temp/kensbear.jpg >Sorry. Couldn't help myself. Har! Nice bokeh on some of the text ;-) C'mon mate, let's have a link to Cottycam Magazine - that's gotta be a favourite ;-)

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Step forward Ken Rockwell. Sound, unbiased advice, with excellent >supporting illustrations. Oh thanks. I just sprayed Boddington's all over my keyboard. Through my nose. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: >Step forward Ken Rockwell. Sound, unbiased advice, with excellent >supporting illustrations. Thanks John. I'm not sure I'm quite *that* desperate!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://w

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: >Tell your wife's friends that digital cameras are a waste of time and >money, and then have them read this: >http://pcworld.about.com/news/Jun142005id120980.htm > >Seriously, it doesn't matter where you direct them. They will always >come b

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You know, if this photo were framed with the bear a little lower, with >the empty space at the top of the frame rather than the bottom, it would >make a *great* magazine cover shot You all saw this coming, didn't you? http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ke

Re: PUG themes - sorry mistake... next try

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >You mean tall, handsome and intelligent, as opposed to. >8- Why thank you Mike :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Poll: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: >I hope Bill does not mind. You know he is really a Klingon? Had his ridges ironed out... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > "If your photos aren't good enough, you're not >close enough." The very next time i went out I grabbed a 35mm lens and >~forced~ myself to work close. Don't even start thinking about shooting until you can see the whites of their eyes. T

Re: PESO: A Walk In The Rose Garden - Original Images

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed: >However, I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know who Steven Thornton is. >Does anyone have an internet link that would help me out? That's because Steven Thornton doesn't exist. Well, he probably does, many times over actually. What I meant to writ

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Scott Loveless
Tell your wife's friends that digital cameras are a waste of time and money, and then have them read this: http://pcworld.about.com/news/Jun142005id120980.htm Seriously, it doesn't matter where you direct them. They will always come back to YOU with more questions. They won't utilize the web. T

Re: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Bruce Dayton wrote: While the theme has value, it also makes it so many photos will not be submitted because they don't fit the theme. Isn't that why the system was changed to have both theme and open every month?

Re: Halloween Synchronicity Shoot

2005-10-09 Thread E.R.N. Reed
skye wrote: Was it just last year that we had that big hubbub on the news about halloween being on a sunday and how that was *gasp* disrespectful to god or something along those lines? I don't remember a big hubbub on the news but Halloween was on a Sunday last year, if that helps answer your

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread John Forbes
Step forward Ken Rockwell. Sound, unbiased advice, with excellent supporting illustrations. John On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:42:06 +0100, skye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/9/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/10/05, skye, discombobulated, unleashed: >Endless hours of advice? Nowaday

Re: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread John Forbes
I save a copy of the PAWs and PESOs that I like to my hard drive, and look at them frequently. (I hope I'm not out of order in doing this.) It makes me realise that many excellent and PUG-worthy shots miss the PUG through being PESO'd, and that this is a shame. Perhaps it would be possible

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Encourage them to read this: >http://www.emula3.com/docs/OnComputableNumbers.pdf > >They should be able to figure out the rest themselves. Mary Mother of God! I'm going to print that off and keep it in the downstairs loo. Cheers, Cotty ___/

PAW: Covoiturage

2005-10-09 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
Autumn gives some nice evening lights here in southern France. I usually get back home too late to take much advantage of this, so let's find an alternate way to produce some image. http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/paw/Covoiturage.jpg.html BTW, _I_ was not driving ;-) Patrice

Re: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/05, skye, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/guides/digital/ how_does_it_work_1.html >was short but a little outdated (no sd card discussion) > >http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;565623457 >was better but maybe a little too much info? > >http://re

Re: PESO: "I'm Special"

2005-10-09 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciate it, Bob Jack --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, teriffic shot! Regards, Bob S. > > On 10/8/05, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I lied. This is my final attempt: > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=91 > > > > Hopefully, > > > > Jack

Re: Fisheye options for Pentax DSLRs

2005-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
They labeled them as f8 and f5.6, I don't know if there was any real difference. I don't remember seeing the max opening in the ad. anywhere. Mishka wrote: It's an f8 lens, by the way. Best, Mishka On 10/9/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's currently a Sigma 12mm, (T m

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John, I agree with you here. >When you get to the point where captures like this are possible, you need to >move to the next level & capture the subject doing something or in a unique >situation. This takes alot more time. This shot as is, is just doc

Re: PESO -- Off Road III (The Challenge)

2005-10-09 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
P. J. Alling a écrit : Not many seemed to like the Egret so now for something completely different... I started shooting this little car last summer. It was moved to a slightly different location. How simple! Simply love it! Patrice

Re: Poll: shall PUG continue?

2005-10-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Cotty wrote: On 9/10/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, I get the drift, I will stop posting on the PUG. Nonesense Kostas. I liked your grab - but not because of Bill Bailey. I like the 2 girls' heads on the right. Bill is a bit player in this pic ;

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread John Forbes
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:37:26 +0100, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then i read a comment by Robert Capa - "If your photos aren't good enough, you're not close enough." The very next time i went out I grabbed a 35mm lens and ~forced~ myself to work close. David Douglas Duncan's a

Re: Halloween Synchronicity Shoot

2005-10-09 Thread skye
On 10/9/05, Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:01 PM 10/9/2005, skye wrote: > > >Just a thought/question on Halloween specifically: October 31st is a > >Monday, and thus it seems our entire town has agreed to celebrate > >Halloween on Saturday 29th (the flyers that are up for adult parties > >

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
John, I agree with you here. When you get to the point where captures like this are possible, you need to move to the next level & capture the subject doing something or in a unique situation. This takes alot more time. This shot as is, is just documention of a brown bear in his habitat. Might

RE: Digital Primer?

2005-10-09 Thread Bob W
Cotty, Encourage them to read this: http://www.emula3.com/docs/OnComputableNumbers.pdf They should be able to figure out the rest themselves. -- Cheers, Bob > > Yeah, thanks. That's great. I was thinking more along the > lines of a few pages that someone can read (a primer) to find > out

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread skye
On 10/9/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > go out with a prime lens - 24mm through 50mm. A zoom allows you to cheat. > one lens, work close. When you get good with it, then move to other focal > lengths or zooms.. I can't speak for Godfrey, but Juan and I have gone out > shooting a f

Re: PESOS (2) - Ode/Personal Space (NorCal Meet)

2005-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
go out with a prime lens - 24mm through 50mm. A zoom allows you to cheat. one lens, work close. When you get good with it, then move to other focal lengths or zooms.. I can't speak for Godfrey, but Juan and I have gone out shooting a few times, and both he and I always shot with primes - nothing

Re: PESO - Sanderlings in flight

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
One of the fundamental things I learned last week was use as much depth of field as you can get away >with. Yes Christion, I understand that with a more or less static subject , but there's a big diffence when shooting a moving target & you need the extra speed. Kenneth Waller . - Origin

RE: Halloween Synchronicity Shoot

2005-10-09 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Glen I like the idea of the "synchronicity shooting" a lot. I submitted to Tom C. and wait to see the results even if there are only a few photos from September 22. Halloween is really boring here in Switzerland (for me), I would submit something completely different if we can agree on a time wi

RE: PUG themes - sorry mistake... next try

2005-10-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
> > (... Better go to bed soon.) Yeah. Do that! Brush your teeth, while I'll find a proper translation. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message

Re: PESO: A Walk In The Rose Garden - Original Images

2005-10-09 Thread Glen
At 03:31 PM 10/9/2005, Cotty wrote: Sure I consider it art. It's a composite image, but I don't need to know that. It stands or falls on its own merits, and I say it stands. It's well done, and a striking shot. Reminds me of Steven Thornton. well done :-) Thanks Cotty, I truly appreciate tha

Re: PESO - Sanderlings in flight

2005-10-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Great capture Mark. Kinda like real estate, location, location, location. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - Sanderlings in flight "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:17:22 +0100, Cotty <[EMA

Re: PUG themes - sorry mistake... next try

2005-10-09 Thread Jostein
Translation for Tim: April: Asgeir September: Samlokaliserte motsetninger. (Still in a cheeky mode. Better go to bed soon.) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: RE: PUG themes - sorry mistake... next

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