RE: Picture Window Pro. Was: PESO - Memorial

2005-10-12 Thread Tom C
Bruce, just curious... I've never used Picture Window Pro or Phase One Capture One. Does either one stand out as being significantly easier to use or producing better results w/less effort than Photoshop? I have PS CS2 at present. Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet - five from me, too

2005-10-12 Thread John Francis
FA* 250-600/f5.6 @ 600mm, 1/1250 @ f6.3, *ist-D at ISO 200, monopod On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:56:55PM -0700, Jim Apilado wrote: Interesting shot of the Blue Angels cargo plane winging close to Alcatraz. What lens was used to get the shot? Jim A. From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 9:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NOT FRANK and MAX's CAFE leapt out at me had to see who taht good looking guy was - and I see it is Juan :) I'm too sleepy to do this . but certainly some nice stuff there, girl ann I was

Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet - five from me, too

2005-10-12 Thread John Francis
There's nothing wrong with cropping, per se - most of the shots I've submitted to PUGs or PESOs have been cropped somewhat. But this weekend part of the exercise was to try a little different sort of thing ('street' photography, if you will), where there's a little more emphasis on composing in

Re: GESO: Southwest Quiz

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 10:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zion, not sure, not sure, Bryce, Bryce, not sure (although I've seen that just don't remember where), Grand Canyon, Mesa Verde, the narrow gage railroad (forget what it runs between, but I know it goes

Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet - five from me, too

2005-10-12 Thread Tom C
Gotcha... just yanking chains... :) I like the Fat Albert shot. My favorite of the bunch. Tom C. From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet - five from me, too Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:56:17 -0400

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a nonsense children's game, It's not nonesense to us children! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread dagt
fra: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] TØ This reminds me: Jostein and other fellow Norwegians, how TØ about making a Fiddly Bits PDML soon? JØ I'm game. I remember Bergen in October/November, though... :-) We don't have to meet in Bergen at this time of year. I'm going to Oslo in first

Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet - five from me, too

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I've just found time to clear off enough space from my hard drive to be able to take a first look at my weekend images. Here are five that caught my eye; (no cropping, just minor tweaks)

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Any and all feedback merits a beer, my treat, at GFM next year. Er, read some books. (1 beer) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Any and all feedback merits a beer, my treat, at GFM next year. er, read some more books. (2 beers, you getting the idea?) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Any and all feedback merits a beer, my treat, at GFM next year. Read as many books as you can (3 beers. I'll stop now if you just call it a couple of cases :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: PESO -- strangers (ACL 2005, Thievery Corporation concert)

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: This is a photo my wife, Annette, took while we were at the Austin City Limits 2005 festival a few weeks ago. This was opening night, right before Thievery Corporation went on stage. One of the hottest days of the year and not a cloud in

Re: PESO - My Offspring and Fellow Maniac

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: My youngest offspring had a gig a couple of weeks ago. I'm not the least proud of the photo, the light was beyond hope. But I am proud of my son; he is the one with the silly glasses. He was performing at a rock event of four local bands. His

Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 40q - GDG

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I think he was quite careful in his phrasing... Why don't you learn to spell. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

PESO Last pics from my trip for a bit

2005-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
OK I have to get on to some other items I've left languishing of late so I decided to try something different to show-case the trip. I've put together a montage of some very hastily selected images, surprisingly it didn't take long to do using some simple batch routines in PS. The individual

HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to offer consumers greater choice'. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to offer consumers greater choice'.

Re: GESO: Southwest Quiz

2005-10-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi, thanks to all who commented and/or took the quiz. Here are the right answers: 2065 - Yosemite Valley from Olmsted Point, CA 2091 - Mono Lake, CA 2130 - A view from Angels Landing, Zion NP, UT 2216 - Dixie National Forest, UT 2235 - Bryce Canyon NP, UT 2295 - Angel's Window from Cape

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Cotty, I think this is big news, or am I wrong? Samsung with Pentax would be a big player, no? sure, and IMHO it's a good news - Samsung is slowly replacing Sony as the (technological) leader in consumer entertainment so the future should be clear for Pentax from now on. Bedo.

Re: Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread dagt
fra: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/10/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Steve Jolly
Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp I think this is big news, or am I wrong? Samsung with Pentax would be a big player, no? Could be - or it could mean that Pentax are about to start rebadging Samsung digicams instead of developing their own. I

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Cotty wrote on 12.10.05 9:54: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to offer consumers greater choice'. Great news! Now

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 11, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 13 Jan 2004 at 6:58, Christian Skofteland wrote: OK I performed some practical tests with various combinations of lens TC and tubes. In all cases I used the full 57mm 3 tube set with the lens

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread dagt
fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote on 12.10.05 9:54: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote on 12.10.05 9:54: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Adam Maas
Well, I guess that answers the Sonyt Sensor question. Samsung of course fabs it's own sensors. -Adam Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:58:47 +0200, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/10/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: The Pentax trademark is worth a lot more than Samsung in this market so my bet is that they keep using it both on the cameras and on the lenses. The announcement reads like Pentax will be second fiddle. What of a possibility that

Re: Re: GESO: Southwest Quiz

2005-10-12 Thread mike wilson
From: Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/12 Wed AM 08:14:18 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Southwest Quiz Hi, thanks to all who commented and/or took the quiz. Here are the right answers: 2065 - Yosemite Valley from Olmsted Point, CA 2091 - Mono

Re: GESO: Southwest Quiz

2005-10-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi, 2422 - Blue Mesa of Petrified Forest NP, AZ 2582 - Height Ashbury, San Francisco, CA Haight? yep, sorry for typo. Bedo.

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12.10.05 11:41: The Pentax trademark is worth a lot more than Samsung in this market so my bet is that they keep using it both on the cameras and on the lenses. Leica is bigger name in the world of photography too, but Matsushita has been selling digicams produced in

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Cotty wrote on 12.10.05 12:06: What of a possibility that there will be some tandem products. I can see a Samsung ZLR with a Pentax lens Or even some Schneider-Kreuznach lenses with KAF mount 8-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: What of a possibility that there will be some tandem products. I can see a Samsung ZLR with a Pentax lens Possible, but not top priority. Samsung already uses Schneider lenses, which are close to Zeiss reputation. I can see a Pentax ZLR sooner. Samsung image quality is not

Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet - five from me, too

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yep, the Fat Albert shot is a lot of fun. Looks like it's going to take the masts off those ships. Paul On Oct 12, 2005, at 3:33 AM, Cotty wrote: On 12/10/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I've just found time to clear off enough space from my hard drive to be able to take a

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Cotty wrote: What of a possibility that there will be some tandem products. I can see a Samsung ZLR with a Pentax lens Great, but mostly irrelevant to me. It's SLRs that I do and K lenses that I have plenty of. However, I misread the announcement; it clearly says

Re: PESO Last pics from my trip for a bit

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful and fascinating. I spent way more time studying it than I should have :-)), A lot of excellent photography packed into one image. Paul On Oct 12, 2005, at 3:45 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: OK I have to get on to some other items I've left languishing of late so I decided to try something

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 12.10.05 12:48: Balancing pros and cons, I think this is a good move for Pentax, especially when considering that there's probably nothing better left (since Sony already teamed with Minolta and Panasonic with Olympus). The alternative (with a different vision) could

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: Pentax could be perceived more and more as a manufacturer of cheap products only (Pentax=Samsung). Interesting. I regard Samsung quite highly. I use a Samsung PDA phone that was released in limited quantities back in early 2004 that

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: it clearly says possesses a wide range of interchangeable lenses. Support for K mount. So Samsung might release K mount DSLRs? Or they will just concentrate on the electronics side of things, with Pentax the only logo on any

Re: PESO A pic from my trip

2005-10-12 Thread David Savage
Really nice Rob. I can just Imagine how much detail is in the full sized version. Dave On 10/11/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just generated a quick and dirty test pano from one of the 65 pano sequences that I shot during my recent trip. I used thumb-nail files only so the image

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread dagt
fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote on 12.10.05 9:54: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Cotty wrote: On 12/10/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: it clearly says possesses a wide range of interchangeable lenses. Support for K mount. So Samsung might release K mount DSLRs? Or they will just concentrate on the electronics side of things,

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Dario Bonazza
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote on 12.10.05 12:48: Balancing pros and cons, I think this is a good move for Pentax, especially when considering that there's probably nothing better left (since Sony already teamed with Minolta and Panasonic with Olympus). The alternative (with a

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Derby Chang
Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to offer consumers greater choice'. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O)

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: The Google translation is pretty good. http://tinyurl.com/a4oyn mmmalcoholic beverages LOL. Pen thak su *ist D. Tablecoth technology. Now *there's* a thought. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: PESO Last pics from my trip for a bit

2005-10-12 Thread David Savage
That's a great concept. It draws you in and you keep looking at it looking at it looking at it, each time discovering new scenes that you miss on the first, second, third etc. viewing. Dave On 10/12/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK I have to get on to some other items I've left

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:58:01 +0200, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/10/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: it clearly says possesses a wide range of interchangeable lenses. Support for K mount. So Samsung might release K mount DSLRs? Or they will just concentrate on

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Dario Bonazza wrote: Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote on 12.10.05 12:48: Balancing pros and cons, I think this is a good move for Pentax, especially when considering that there's probably nothing better left (since Sony already teamed with Minolta and Panasonic with Olympus).

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
Scott, the integrity of a workshop rides with the leader. Some leaders are good photographers and lousy teachers. Before you sign up for a workshop, make sure you know about the leader check with previous workshop attendees if possible. Stay away from photo tours if your looking for actual

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp 'Samsung announces agreement with Pentax to co-operate and jointly develop new digital camera products. This will broaden the product range to offer consumers greater choice'. Oh YEAH! Pentax

Re: PESO - Barren Ground Bear

2005-10-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
I mean full bear shots are done all the time. I've got alot of those this was one of the reasons I took this image. As I've said in a previous post, once you gotten to the point where you can get good stock type documentary shots of wildlife, you need to move on capture the extraordinary

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, the PDML doomsayer contingent is gonna be depressed about this...) Oh wait... Nah, the doomsayers will relieve themselves (so to speak) by predicting that the Samsung deal will ruin Pentax. They'll take over and make nothing but low-end digicams, etc,

RE: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Don Sanderson
In the consumer electronics industry Samsung is a brand I grew to respect a long time ago. They have an uncanny habit of producing products as good _or better_ than the competition at lower prices. This bodes well mixing them with a company renowned for quality glass and small, reliable, feature

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: Interesting. I regard Samsung quite highly. I use a Samsung PDA phone that was released in limited quantities back in early 2004 that incorporates a Palm OS driven camera, phone, MP3 player (I was listening to music from an SD card in my phone last year), other apps, and full sync

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Dario Bonazza
I think the Samsung-Pentax agreement to be good for Pentax. However, I'm afraid that either Sony or Panasonic could have been providing them more advanced technology. Unfortunately, they are already engaged. Who knows? Maybe within two years from now Samsung sensor technology could be ahead

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand what you mean. However, when I think of Samsung I mostly think about 99€ microwave ovens, cheap fax machines, all-in-one scanners/printers, and the like. Because of my engineering background, when I think of Samsung I think of semiconductor

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Great news! Now the future of DSLRs with K-mount is much brighter, althought not every of these products would carry Pentax logo! Samsung is now powerful company - both economic and marketing wise! Indeed. Let's hope now that 645 D and *istD replacement will already benefit from this

Re: PESO Last pics from my trip for a bit

2005-10-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
sure is different. Nicely executed. Now tell us what you did on your vacation ;^) Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO Last pics from my trip for a bit OK I have to get on to some other items I've left languishing of late so I decided to

PESO: Winging It

2005-10-12 Thread David Savage
G'day All, I was looking through my archives tonight came across this shot I took some time ago: http://tinyurl.com/8oq8s I've come back to it a few times since I took it I'm a bit undecided. There are elements about it I like but to me something just seems a off, and I can't quite put my

BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Colin J
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:56:15 +0200 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dario Bonazza

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Dario Bonazza
When I was working in electronics field (for a company designing and manufacturing numerical controls) Samsung chips (mostly memory chips) were tolerated. Not banned like some ST and TI were, and not as regarded as NEC, AMD, Fujitsu, Intel, and many more. Dario - Original Message -

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Well, that didn't take long. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/12/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/10/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Any and all feedback merits a beer, my treat, at GFM next year. Read as many books as you can (3 beers. I'll stop now if you just call it a couple of cases :-) I got a lotta books. I

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Colin J Subject: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs The reason Canon succeeds so strongly is that Canon DSLRs use Canon-made sensors. All other DSLR manufacturers have to buy in sensors from sensor manufacturers. This has led to many problems. The

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Dario Bonazza
Colin, When someone succeeds strongly there's ALWAYS more than just one reason. Canon has done a lot of propers steps toward success, and very few mistakes. Someone else has done the opposite. Your vision looks oversimplified to me, as well as your conclusions. Dario This is BAD NEWS for

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think we should all slit our wrists. The sky is falling. Paul On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Well, that didn't take long. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT -- photographic education This means something other than books. No beer for you. If yer still talking about Bud Light, pour mine on his head. William Robb

Re: OT -- photographic education

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Herb. This is really what I'm looking for. Trial and error, reading, etc. are wonderful teachers, IMHO, but they're slow. It's nice to have someone available who can lead me through. NYIP certainly presents a pretty package, and their price tag is reasonable. I've been cautious about

OT: One question IQ test.

2005-10-12 Thread Don Sanderson
Here's a one question IQ Test to help you decide how you should spend the rest of your day.. There is a mute who wants to buy a toothbrush. By imitating the action of brushing one's teeth, he successfully expresses himself to the shopkeeper and the purchase is done. Now if there is a blind

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Hi Colin, This is BAD NEWS for Pentax. The reason Canon succeeds so strongly is that Canon DSLRs use Canon-made sensors. All other DSLR manufacturers have to buy in sensors from sensor manufacturers. This has led to many problems. snip contax Kodak failed with the DCS 14n, Pro/n and

Re: PESO - Personal Space Revisited/Closeness (3 Crops)

2005-10-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! But I'd be real curious if anyone likes the crops better. And which crop do you like? FIRST CROP: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/space1.htm The forward arrows take you to the next crops.The back arrow on the first one takes you to the original (however, the forward arrow on

Re: PESO - San Franciso Treat

2005-10-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Here is one of my attempts at street work from the Norcal PDML outing on Saturday. This man was singing the old 'Rice-a-Roni, the San Franciso Treat' jingle from the commercials (for those of you who might remember them). He was very entertaining and seemed to be enjoying himself. Pentax

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Toralf Lund
Don Sanderson wrote: In the consumer electronics industry Samsung is a brand I grew to respect a long time ago. They have an uncanny habit of producing products as good _or better_ than the competition at lower prices. I used to agree with you, but my new Samsung LCD monitor has started

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Mark Roberts wrote on 12.10.05 14:49: Well, that didn't take long. Mark, be my oracle please ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Shell
On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, at 06:56 AM, Cotty wrote: Pentax could be perceived more and more as a manufacturer of cheap products only (Pentax=Samsung). Interesting. I regard Samsung quite highly. I use a Samsung PDA phone that was released in limited quantities back in early 2004

Re: PESO: Winging It

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Womer
Dave, Not a crap photo at all. I think the change in the texture of the water and the subject don't interact well, though. What about cropping it about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom and 1/3 in from the right? Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, I was looking

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Peter Lacus wrote: sure, and IMHO it's a good news - Samsung is slowly replacing Sony as the (technological) leader in consumer entertainment Very interesting and encouraging. Any references? Kostas

Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Reese
I shall do no such thing (as long as I have a few rolls of ektachrome in the freezer). Tom (Twice as Doomed) Reese Paul (We're All Doomed) Stenquist wrote: I think we should all slit our wrists. The sky is falling. On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Well, that didn't take

Marketing question--What to call the Pentax-Samsung camera line?

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Womer
We all know that marketing is where Pentax =really= needs help (and has needed it for a lng time). So we should rise to the occasion and figure out a name for the offspring of the Pentax-Samsung marriage. There are two obvious candidates. Pensung has no zip. Samtax has a nice ring, but

Pentax/Samsung?

2005-10-12 Thread macburt
Ah yes. The experts have spoken. Samsung is one of the best electronic companies in the world. A second Sony. Pentax made a good deal. All the experts can be wrong. Less than a decade ago. Silicon Graphics was thinking of buying Apple at $22 US. SG put out a PR saying Apple wasn't worth

RE: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Lucas wrote: I think there are several other reasons that Canon is succesfull. Hint: they already were before the advent of DSLR's... True. The pros started buying Canon instead of Nikon as the EOS 1v (film) was introduced in 2000 - mainly because it offered higher speed (expecially AF-speed and

Re: PESO -- strangers (ACL 2005, Thievery Corporation concert)

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Womer
I like the guy in the background plugging his ears. That's what I would have been doing (in the unlikely event I would have gone to such a thing at all). Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a photo my wife, Annette, took while we were at the Austin City Limits 2005 festival a few weeks

Re: PESO: Winging It

2005-10-12 Thread Jack Davis
Hi, David, I didn't attach it here, but I down loaded the image and severely cropped both right and bottom. Also, took a little off the top. Attractive angle and wing position. Wind disturbed water surface muddles a reflection that, if placid, would have added somewhat to it. I think it's a

Re: Pentax/Samsung?

2005-10-12 Thread John Forbes
Hey, MacBurt, stop bringing common sense into this! John On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:11:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah yes. The experts have spoken. Samsung is one of the best electronic companies in the world. A second Sony. Pentax made a good deal. All the experts can be wrong. Less

Re: PESO - San Franciso Treat

2005-10-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's probably not ... read subsequent messages Shel [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman There is one more distracting element - the *open* book on the foreground. I realize it might have been impossible to get rid of it, but it does distract, because open book always means a

Re: PESO: Winging It

2005-10-12 Thread John Forbes
I agree with Rick; the bird is a bit lost with all that water, and cropping the pic brings out the shadow. Nice texture and exposure though. John On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:01:19 +0100, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Not a crap photo at all. I think the change in the texture

Re: Marketing question--What to call the Pentax-Samsung camera line?

2005-10-12 Thread dagt
The most stupid thing you do is to change your trademark when you are going through changes and need the customers loyalty. Pentax should remain Pentax in all the markets where they are well known, while Samsung can be Samsung in other places. DagT fra: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] dato:

RE: Pentax/Samsung?

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I've owned (film systems) Minolta, Nikon, Canon etc. There is one rule: As soon as I sell a system it releases the best body aroud. ironic font I don't have the funds to do it, but some who has funds, should volunteer to give you a state of the art Canon system (or whatever your heart desires).

Re: PESO - Personal Space Revisited/Closeness (3 Crops)

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/12/2005 5:58:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the first crop is the best of the three. The second one is too tight and the third one seems to be simply a fragment really. Also the third one seems to be too small a crop so that the limits

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:35 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: My quick test with the 50mm seems to indicate the same thing. Camera-tubes-converter-lens nets greater magnification than camera-converter-tubes-lens. Would reversing the lens make any diffrence? It might, but likely not. I'm using

At least it's not Cosinaeom

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Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Samsung is well regarded in many parts of the world, and, if memory serves me, they are the biggest, or at least one of the two/three largest, manufacturers of consumer electronics and goods in the world. They make a lot of cards, chips, and boards that are used by other companies in their

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL I was wondering when someone would catch that. Give that gal a Kewpie doll! Shel Dario said: That makes a lot of sense. I've always asked myself why they didn't do that years ago. ERN countered: instead of just having Fuji put Super CCDs in Nikon cameras and label them Fuji,

Re: Pentax/Samsung?

2005-10-12 Thread Fred
I've owned (film systems) Minolta, Nikon, Canon etc. There is one rule: As soon as I sell a system it releases the best body aroud. ironic font I don't have the funds to do it, but some who has funds, should volunteer to give you a state of the art Canon system (or whatever your heart

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
When I think of Samsung I think of cheap and not very reliable products. But when I bought the TV before last I got a Samsung. The guy at the TV store said they have improved over the last five years or so and are becoming quite respected. Then my Samsung went belly up after three months. So I

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That was then, Dario - Samsung is well regarded when it comes to electronics. Much of their renown is behind the scenes though, tucked quietly inside hundreds, if not thousands, of highly regarded name brand items. It's time to adjust your thinking. This is a company with cash and ideas. They

Re: At least it's not Cosinaeom

2005-10-12 Thread keith_w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what isn't? keith

RE: PESO Last pics from my trip for a bit

2005-10-12 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Rob would you tell me how you did merge the squares in Photoshop automatically? Or even better share the actions :-) There is **a lot** to watch and like here... greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO Last pics from my trip for a

Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs

2005-10-12 Thread keith_w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I think of Samsung I think of cheap and not very reliable products. But when I bought the TV before last I got a Samsung. The guy at the TV store said they have improved over the last five years or so and are becoming quite respected. Then my Samsung went

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