Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote: Occam's Razor sez the painter moved the hand so it'd fit on the stamp. Occam's Razor be damned, the painter, like any other artist, has the right to paint however he or she sees fit, interpreting an original literally and exactly or not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO: Picker's Palace

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul. I considered the mailboxes sort of a rural symbol and serving to break up the big, ugly, asphalt, parking lot. Actually the total scene lacks all but a casual interest and wouldn't have been shot had it not been for an itchy new shutter finger. Forgive me, but I'll probably put up

Re: OT- Robert Capa in London - slideshow with narrative

2008-10-18 Thread Derby Chang
Thanks Bob, So there is. I guess there needs to be quite a bit of curatorial and archival work on the Mexican photos before they can be presented. Must see if I can pick one up locally. Derby Bob W wrote: There is a book, which I already have, called This Is War! Robert Capa At Work.

PESO: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Same feverish drive looking for targets for the new 20. This was taken near Grass Valley, CA at the played out Empire Gold Mine. Only memorialized for its weathered character. Being able to closely examine the RAW file, revealing the effects of time and the elements, is my excuse for taking this.

Re: PESO: Picker's Palace

2008-10-18 Thread David Savage
I like it, but I'd suggest cheating cloning out the powerlines. Cheers, Dave 2008/10/18 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Took the K20D for a spin in the Sierra foothills today. Went through the small settlement of Rough and Ready which was established in 1849 in the Mother Load; ground zero

Re: software question

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
Cory. I have Photoshop on both the ibook and PC, as well as the Lightroom program. It works great on both OS and instalation is fast and pain free. I, like a few others seem to be using LR for about 80% of my edits now. PS is now mainly used to adjust and print my horse pictures, Dave On Fri,

Re: Emler's TV

2008-10-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought that particular word a bit to long to fit, in a balanced way, considering the letter size and where the word service ended. Doesn't mean you're wrong, however. You could very well be right. --- On Fri, 10/17/08, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread Doug Franklin
I need to apologize for the message I sent last night. I misspoke about the accounts ... they deleted my reviews, not my accounts. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread AlunFoto
2008/10/18 John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, that was someone else's initial comment. Apologies. Wrong John. My initial comment was Tempest in a teapot; and IIRC, something to the effect if you read the article, you'll see it's a painting, NOT A PHOTOGRAPH. Because it's a painting,

PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Last souvenir from yesterdays drive. This was taken at the South Yuba River state park, in a settlement named Bridgeport. It's claimed that this bridge, built in 1862, is the longest single span covered bridge (251') in the U. S.. I've shot a number of times over the years. From both ends and

Re: PESO: Picker's Palace

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Easy for me to say, but I decided to leave them in , but don't entirely understand why. :) Thanks much for commenting, Dave. --- On Sat, 10/18/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Picker's Palace To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread AlunFoto
It was quite a broadside nonetheless! I have two Garmin products, and am reasonably happy with both of them... Support at the Norwegian distributor is braindead, but polite and forthcoming. In other words, neither worse or better than the other lot. :-( Jostein 2008/10/18 Doug Franklin [EMAIL

Re: Emler's TV

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, I think it would. The faded signage has incited so many comments, I may go back to this location (only a couple miles away) and see if I can make it out live. Will advise if any luck. Jack --- On Sat, 10/18/08, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Camera Envy, this time with a picture

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:26 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/17 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Camera Envy, this time with a picture that's very impressive I though so. Here is one I took this evening with the D700

Geso Photos from Thanksgiving weekend in Madawaska

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
Put a small page together using iweb. http://web.mac.com/barnyardcam/iWeb/Site/Madawaska%202008.html Sorry about the portrait shots still in landsscape mode. The photo angle changer thingy does not seem to work for me. D200 and 18-70 DX lens. No edits, just dragged them into iweb for viewing.

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 18, 2008, at 0:50, Doug Franklin wrote: Howdy, folks, If you have the urge to buy a Garmin product, STOP, DON'T DO IT. They're a worthless bunch of sackless wankers who are more than willing to steal your money and then try to silence you if you complain. FWIW, I've been using

Re: Geotagging PEF files with a Nokia phone

2008-10-18 Thread Rick Womer
Neat, but I think I'll wait until it's easier. Very nice photo, too. What was the background? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Geotagging PEF files with a Nokia phone To: pdml@pdml.net Date:

Re: Geotagging PEF files with a Nokia phone

2008-10-18 Thread Toine
Maybe the K30D features GPS... The background is foliage. Desaturated green and blue in lightroom. 55-300 @ 300mm, f8 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat, but I think I'll wait until it's easier. Very nice photo, too. What was the background? Rick

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: PESO: Empire Pump Same feverish drive looking for targets for the new 20. This was taken near Grass Valley, CA at the played out Empire Gold Mine. Only memorialized for its weathered character. Being able to closely examine the RAW

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Garmin GPS Maps I need to apologize for the message I sent last night. I misspoke about the accounts ... they deleted my reviews, not my accounts. What, they can't handle the truth? Or did you decide to emulate my writing

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Franklin wrote: I need to apologize for the message I sent last night. I misspoke about the accounts ... they deleted my reviews, not my accounts. Still unconscionable behavior. You should submit your comments to third-party review sites (and mention about Garmin deleting your reviews).

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thank you, Bill. I relate to 'old'..also. ;) Jack --- On Sat, 10/18/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Empire Pump To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 10:17 AM - Original Message -

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Empire Pump Thank you, Bill. I relate to 'old'..also. ;) The problem I am having with old stuff is that I remember a lot of it as being new stuff when I was a kid. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/10/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: The problem I am having with old stuff is that I remember a lot of it as being new stuff when I was a kid. Mark. Hall of fame mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread PN Stenquist
What Bill said. An interesting shot and a worthy subject. Nicely exposed and rendered. Paul On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:17 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: PESO: Empire Pump Same feverish drive looking for targets for the new 20. This was taken near

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
That's, a sigh for me too. When something from the past is re-introduced into general society as 'new,' I get the feeling it's new to everyone but me. Remember when you were young, watching them build that slick, modern new mall on the plaza? You know, the one they just tore down to build a new

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks very much for commenting, Paul. Appreciate it! Jack --- On Sat, 10/18/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Empire Pump To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:37 AM What Bill said. An

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread keith_w
Doug Franklin wrote: Howdy, folks, If you have the urge to buy a Garmin product, STOP, DON'T DO IT. They're a worthless bunch of sackless wankers who are more than willing to steal your money and then try to silence you if you complain. Don't even try to post a negative review of their

Re: Geso Photos from Thanksgiving weekend in Madawaska

2008-10-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, Lots of nice material there. The dog overlooking the late is an early favorite along with the portrait of the guy in the light blue wool shirt with window behind him. I actually like the train tressel over the marsh better than with the fisherman. In general, the landscapes with water are

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:47:35AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Empire Pump Thank you, Bill. I relate to 'old'..also. ;) The problem I am having with old stuff is that I remember a lot of it as being new stuff when I was a kid.

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Brian Walters
Very nice, Jack. The covered bridge is an interesting design. I suppose they must have been constructed in other places but they seem (to me, anyway) to be a real American icon. I often wonder why they were covered. Was it just for shelter or was there some other reason? Covering doesn't seem

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Derby Chang
A Straight Dope classic http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1136/why-are-covered-bridges-covered Nice series too, Jack D Brian Walters wrote: Very nice, Jack. The covered bridge is an interesting design. I suppose they must have been constructed in other places but they seem (to me,

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Don't know either, Brian. Could be that back in the horse and buggy days, if a horse were to shy while crossing a bridge, the consequences might be less serious. Perhaps structural rotting would be lessened if protected from the weather.(???) IOW, good question. Thanks for your comments. Jack

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Derby. I, honestly, had just offered the weather protection theory to Brian. Appreciate your remarks. Jack --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Covered Bridge To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: Geso Photos from Thanksgiving weekend in Madawaska

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Bob for the comments. I looked at the cal6661 swhot and i cannot see those specks. Wonder if thats an iweb thing Dave On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Lots of nice material there. The dog overlooking the late is an early favorite along with

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
A greqat shot Jack. I like the light, and the fact i remember most of this old stuff.:-) Dave On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 1:17 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: PESO: Empire Pump Same feverish drive looking for targets for the new

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
Gotta agree with Bill here. You submitted a review, al be it negative, so it should be on the website. If all they wanted to do is show the best of, then they need to be in politics not GPS. Dave, a Magellan guy, Brooks On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 1:19 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 3:15 PM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me, does anyone know who makes the GPS I have in my '07 Toyota Prius Touring? My owners manual says it uses DENSO maps, whatever that means. No one uses maps any more. Dave keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Front of house

2008-10-18 Thread Bob W
Colourful geometry in one of the back streets near the British Museum today: http://www.web-options.com/Housefront.jpg Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Sessoms wrote: Occam's Razor sez the painter moved the hand so it'd fit on the stamp. Occam's Razor be damned, the painter, like any other artist, has the right to paint however he or she sees fit, interpreting an original literally and exactly

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread keith_w
Brian Walters wrote: Very nice, Jack. The covered bridge is an interesting design. I suppose they must have been constructed in other places but they seem (to me, anyway) to be a real American icon. I often wonder why they were covered. Was it just for shelter or was there some other reason?

Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/10/18 John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So what is the basis for claiming the government sanitized history? And who is being revisionist? That's the second time you ask who's revisionist. What are you actually trying to imply by that? The government is

Re: Garmin GPS Maps

2008-10-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] t was quite a broadside nonetheless! I have two Garmin products, and am reasonably happy with both of them... Support at the Norwegian distributor is braindead, but polite and forthcoming. In other words, neither worse or better than the other lot. :-(

RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony Farr
Now all you have to do it prove the United States Government, and ONLY the United States Government is responsible for retouching the 1950 publicity still used on the dust jacket of an autobiography released 7 years after her death. Where did I claim that an agency of the U.S. govt, or the

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, David. I wonder what a gallon of gas cost when this pump was first used. Possibly more than today, if adjusted for inflation.(?) Jack --- On Sat, 10/18/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Empire Pump To: Pentax-Discuss

Re: Front of house

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Davis
Like it! Nicely composed and exposed. Jack --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Front of house To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 3:40 PM Colourful geometry in one of the back streets near

Re: Geso Photos from Thanksgiving weekend in Madawaska

2008-10-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, I don't know what it is. It disappears at 125%, 150%, and 75% magnification, but I can see it in many places... always the darkest parts of the pix. cal6635 in the left inside of the shirt cal6640 - same area, but much fewer cal6639 inside the hat brim and dark parts of the shirt(s) below

RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony Farr
My other point, to which I refer Occam's razor is that without evidence, it's unreasonable to claim some sinister government plot to sanitize history as the reason why he chose to paint it as he did. John, If you read the interviews accessible on the web (which I'm not going to cite this time

RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony Farr
Occam's Razor be damned, the painter, like any other artist, has the right to paint however he or she sees fit, interpreting an original literally and exactly or not. I can't agree more, that it's the artist's privilege. It's his medium after all. My lingering doubt arises because, if the

Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history My lingering doubt arises because, if the Bette Davis Speaks version of the picture is the true depiction with no smoke, then why on earth would the stamp artist depict,

Re: Front of house

2008-10-18 Thread PN Stenquist
Very nice. Well composed. Paul On Oct 18, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Bob W wrote: Colourful geometry in one of the back streets near the British Museum today: http://www.web-options.com/Housefront.jpg Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: PESO - I'm 101

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony Farr
Frank, I also like this image from a purely design point of view, but it can't wholly engage me because of the intellectual disconnection between the pedestrian and the doorway. Your best work captures the connection between the various elements in the frame. So, this time: good composition but

PESO: Old Stable Door

2008-10-18 Thread Rick Womer
Digging back a few months... On a steaming day in late July my wife and I drove to New Castle, Delaware, just for fun. It has a nicely preserved 18th century center (which is =old= in this country!). The door of an old stable seemed interesting:

RE: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony Farr
That's a good explanation, except that wooden bridges have proliferated worldwide while covering them seems quite limited. If weather protection for the bridge structure was the issue then bridge covering would be universal, it's reasonable to think, but it is uncommon except where heavy snow

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Anthony, You have to think about annual rain/snow fall in your dry parts of OZ vs N.America. But I do have to agree that we have wooden railroad tressels that last way over 10 years (100?) I think the sheds are snow protection. When you get 4-5 feet of fresh snow on a bridge, removal is

Re: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Jack: Wow, that's nice. I recognize that blue sky--it's got the K20D blue sky look. :-) I've had my K20D for about 18 days now I couldn't believe my eyes when I got blue sky like you've got here. Very nice picture here. I've been using the K20 DA 16-45mm as well. Lots to like with

Re: Empire Pump

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Another good one, Jack! Love the subject here. Caught some afternoon light, no? Looks very, very nice. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:46 AM Subject: PESO:

Re: Canal de Bourbourg

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Ralf: Wow! Both are very nice, but I think I much prefer the B/W--just terrific that one. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mailingliste pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: PESO: Canal de

Re: Geso Photos from Thanksgiving weekend in Madawaska

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave: This is a really nice set of images, but I think the IF shots are fantastically outstanding. I love'em. Looks like you had a great weekend. Hope your Thanksgiving was good. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss

Re: Front of house

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Agreed! Great color and composition. Good one, Bob. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Front of house Colourful geometry in one of the back streets

Re: software question

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Cory: I've got a desktop laptop, both with Windows XP. PSE 5 Lightroom are on both. I really only use PSE 5 for major cloning stuff. Lightroom is great. Simple, but powerful, in my view. Highly recommend it. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Cory Waters [EMAIL

Re: OT PESO: Slide Show

2008-10-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Funny one, Matthew. My dad took a lot of slides. Mom would make popcorn; Dad would set up the slide projector-- off the family would go, revisiting family vacation slides in the living room--I can still hear that very clunky noise when the projector advanced to the next slide. Ah, the

RE: PESO: Covered Bridge

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony Farr
We do get snow, but the places that get blizzarding snow aren't many and there aren't many bridges there to worry about. Railway trestles don't have planked decks to catch snow; it would just fall between the ties (called sleepers in Australia) so there's no risk of being overburdened with piled

Re: OT - Anyone using Microsoft SyncToy v2.0?

2008-10-18 Thread David Mann
On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:12 PM, AlunFoto wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncToy Why oh why can't it just be an rsync client :/ - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link