Re: Happy Sheep

2009-03-12 Thread Subash
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > This is a bit of a play on TV's incessant "Happy Cows" commercials which have > a similar look about them. Also, a little something for the Australian > friends among us. ;) > Taken this AM. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspuploa

Re: PESO - The Coffee Bench

2009-03-12 Thread Toine
Smoking (vegetables) inside is not allowed. :) On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > Toine wrote: > >> A coffee shop in the netherlands doesn't serve coffee. Since last year >> you're supposed to consume your purchase outside. > > You're supposed to consume the coffee or the "v

RE: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control(was:PESO:Church tow...

2009-03-12 Thread Bob W
> I think that universities have a lot to answer for. > > William Robb > == > I think Bob Walkden has a lot to answer for. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) He rubs off. > Wha?! You know about that? I thought the webcam was turned off! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Just call me "Speck"

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:07 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > Apparently the book's "fleshy vastness" yields "closest flicks" by > > "Valuation Robb" amongst others. > > > > It just hit me: Bill (as in invoice) translates to Valuation. > > I think he's now t

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control(was:PESO:Church tow...

2009-03-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/12/2009 1:39:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: > I think that universities have a lot to answer for. > > William Robb > == > I think Bob Walkden has a lot to answer for. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) He rubs off. > Wha?! You know about t

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control(was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: > good Republican Talking of which, does the Allingator still walk amongst us? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread AlunFoto
Graydon, I wrote about _trust_, not truth. Trust is the thing that builds a bridge of consensus between our individual perceptions of reality, isn't it? :-) Jostein 2009/3/12 Graydon : > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:51:20AM +0100, AlunFoto scripsit: >> A photograph is never more trustworthy than th

RE: Just call me "Speck"

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: > > > >> Went Googling for references to the PDML book and came > > across this one: > > > >> > > http://www.picstips.com/pentax/the-pdml-pentax-photo-book-came > > ra-price-reductions-and-pma-rumors.html > > > >> > > > >> Looks as if it's been through a couple of computer >

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: > I think that universities have a lot to answer for. > > William Robb Indeed. Satan is not blue, as any fule no. > > - Original Message - > From: "Graydon" > Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control > (was:PESO:Church tower)) > >

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tow...

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/11/2009 5:14:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > war...@gmail.com writes: > > I think that universities have a lot to answer for. > > William Robb > == > I think Bob Walkden has a lot to answer for. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) He rubs

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Down the drain in the sink with the tap running for five minutes afterwards. Nick Wright wrote: > I would like to start developing my own black and whites here soon. > > But I wonder what to do with the used fixer? So I thought I'd email > and see what y'all do? > > Thanks. > > -- > ~Nic

RE: Happy Sheep

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: > > > > > > > >> This is a bit of a play on TV's incessant "Happy Cows" > > commercials which > > > >> have a similar look about them. Also, a little something for the > > > >> Australian friends among us. ;) > > > >> Taken this AM. > > > >> > > > >> Jack > > > >> > > > >> ht

Re: Happy Sheep

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Joseph McAllister wrote: > On Mar 11, 2009, at 16:07 , Bob W wrote: > > > > > This is a bit of a play on TV's incessant "Happy Cows" > >> commercials which > > have a similar look about them. Also, a little something for the > > Australian friends among us. ;) > > Taken

Re: Christine

2009-03-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Speaking of colon problems. Larry threads are not the only one that are stripped. -- MaritimTim 2009/3/12 Paul Stenquist : > I think Larry's colon problem has been rectified. > But it sounds like you've been misbehaving. > Paul > On Mar 11, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > >> Hi Every

Re: PESO - PB - Staff Coordinator

2009-03-12 Thread Bharath M
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbhome/3332897148/sizes/o/ >> Panasonic G1 + a bunch of adapters + SMC-FA 77mm f/1.8 @ f/2.0 > > You can't fool me.  That's Richard Gere. And he's put on a few pounds! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Down the drain in the sink with the tap running for five minutes afterwards. Nick Wright wrote: > I would like to start developing my own black and whites here soon. > > But I wonder what to do with the used fixer? So I thought I'd email > and see what y'all do? > > Thanks. > > -- > ~Nic

Re: Happy Sheep

2009-03-12 Thread Jack Davis
Many thanks, Subash! Jack --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Subash wrote: > From: Subash > Subject: Re: Happy Sheep > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:26 AM > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Jack Davis > wrote: > > > > This is a bit of a play on TV's incessant > "Ha

RE: Ad-Hoc PDML London meet

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I'll give you a call tomorrow if I can make it - it depends > > > > > > on what time I > > > > > > >can escape from Alcatraz and how knackered I feel > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be up in the garden and about 6.30 ish for 7. > > Got to pick up a > >

Re: PESO - PB - Staff Coordinator

2009-03-12 Thread mike wilson
Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: > We had a concert at Stanford Hospital 2 weeks ago as part of community > services for the ensemble. > I snap a picture of the Staff Coordinator. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbhome/3332897148/sizes/o/ > > Panasonic G1 + a bunch of adapters + SMC-FA 77mm f/1.8

Re: PESO - The Coffee Bench

2009-03-12 Thread Doug Franklin
Toine wrote: Smoking (vegetables) inside is not allowed. :) On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Toine wrote: A coffee shop in the netherlands doesn't serve coffee. Since last year you're supposed to consume your purchase outside. You're supposed to consume the coffee or t

Looking for a New Tripod

2009-03-12 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all My Velbon CX540 tripod was originally bought as a stop gap measure, a gap that has now reached something like 20 years. The tripod is just passably steady if I use a camera and short zoom (and hang a bag of rocks off the bottom of it) but it's near useless with a telephoto lens attached

Re: Christine

2009-03-12 Thread AlunFoto
2009/3/12 Tim Øsleby : > Speaking of colon problems. Larry threads are not the only one that > are stripped. Now you seem to discuss a different Larry: http://www.leisuresuitlarry.org/ Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:41:26AM +, mike wilson scripsit: > William Robb wrote: > > I think that universities have a lot to answer for. > > Indeed. Satan is not blue, as any fule no. Dante put Satan frozen up to his hips in a vast lake of ice. Quite possible he's blue by now. Try

Re: PESO - PB - Staff Coordinator

2009-03-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Pasvorn, Nice white background - charming photo. Regards, Bob S, On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: > We had a concert at Stanford Hospital 2 weeks ago as part of community > services for the ensemble. > I snap a picture of the Staff Coordinator. > > http://www.flickr.com/

PESO: Notre Dame de Boulogne

2009-03-12 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
One of my less spectacular, somewhat moody shots. The trawlers in Boulogne-sur-Mer all have very religious names: "St. Jean priez pour nous", "Dieu a bien fait", "Jésus de Prague", "Pater Noster", "Scapulaire" ... Kind of a spiritual all-risks insurance supposing that He couldn't possibly allow

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07:59AM +0100, AlunFoto scripsit: > Graydon, > I wrote about _trust_, not truth. Trust is the thing that builds a > bridge of consensus between our individual perceptions of reality, > isn't it? :-) I wouldn't say so, no. I'd say that's either facts (arrived at in falsi

Re: Looking for a New Tripod

2009-03-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Brian Walters wrote: Also, what are the pros and cons of ball heads versus pan heads? For me it all boils down to speed of (re-)setup. With a ball head there's only a single control to untighten & retighten to allow me to re-point the lens arbitrarily. With a pan head I found myself st

Re: Christine

2009-03-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/3/12 AlunFoto : > 2009/3/12 Tim Øsleby : >> Speaking of colon problems. Larry threads are not the only one that >> are stripped. > > Now you seem to discuss a different Larry: > http://www.leisuresuitlarry.org/ > > Jostein > You seem to prefer uncut posts New pun thread coming up? :-) -- M

Re: Looking for a New Tripod

2009-03-12 Thread David Savage
2009/3/12 Bruce Walker : > Brian Walters wrote: >> >> Also, what are the pros and cons of ball heads versus pan heads? >> > > For me it all boils down to speed of (re-)setup.  With a ball head there's > only a single control to untighten & retighten  to allow me to re-point the > lens arbitrarily.

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Graydon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07:59AM +0100, AlunFoto scripsit: >> Graydon, >> I wrote about _trust_, not truth. Trust is the thing that builds a >> bridge of consensus between our individual perceptions of reality, >> isn't it? :-) > > I wouldn't say

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread AlunFoto
2009/3/12 Graydon : [snipalot, in case Øsleby is reading... :-) ] > So I think "how do I react to this?" is a much more useful question than > "do I trust this artist? what were they trying to do?" Interesting questions, all of them. Now, I may be dense, but I don't see how your response is even

Congratulations Jostein!

2009-03-12 Thread Miserere
Congratulations on 100 photos in the Pentax Gallery. That's quite the feat :-) Looking forward to your interview on PentaxDSLRs. Cheers, --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://enticingthelight.wordpress.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pe

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control

2009-03-12 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know? Speck! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Graydon wrote: > Art is an attempt to produce a pattern of emotional reaction in the > viewer (for photography, anyway, viewer); this more or less requires > that you set out to mess with someone's head in creating art.   One of the reasons I always resist when s

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:59:31AM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: > Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know? And they are especially _creepy_ pictures because they're of locations I recognize! They're also too good to put down to dumb luck, so you have to have some concern f

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 03:04:30PM +0100, AlunFoto scripsit: > 2009/3/12 Graydon : > [snipalot, in case Øsleby is reading... :-) ] > > So I think "how do I react to this?" is a much more useful question than > > "do I trust this artist? what were they trying to do?" > > Interesting questions, all

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower)) Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know? I tuned out at "I wouldn't say so". These kinds of sophomoric discussions make my

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread David Savage
2009/3/12 frank theriault : > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Graydon wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07:59AM +0100, AlunFoto scripsit: >>> Graydon, >> So I think "how do I react to this?" is a much more useful question than >> "do I trust this artist? what were they trying to do?" > > Holy

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Bruce Walker
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Graydon wrote: Art is an attempt to produce a pattern of emotional reaction in the viewer (for photography, anyway, viewer); this more or less requires that you set out to mess with someone's head in creating art. One of the r

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Do you also suggest we avoid looking at your PESOs to prevent accidentally > having an emotional reaction to them? Absolutely! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:22:28PM +0900, David Savage scripsit: [snip] > My PDML annual submission"Pinnacle Shower" needed 2+ hours of PS'ing > to make it presentable. > > I don't give 2 hoots if it's lying. It's a damn cool shot, and worth > every second it took to polish. "Ethics of photomanip

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:22 AM, David Savage wrote: I don't give 2 hoots if it's lying. It's a damn cool shot, and worth every second it took to polish. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please vis

Re: PESO - PB - Staff Coordinator

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: > We had a concert at Stanford Hospital 2 weeks ago as part of community > services for the ensemble. > I snap a picture of the Staff Coordinator. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbhome/3332897148/sizes/o/ > > Panasonic G1 + a bunch of ada

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread AlunFoto
2009/3/12 Graydon : > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:22:28PM +0900, David Savage scripsit: > [snip] >> My PDML annual submission"Pinnacle Shower" needed 2+ hours of PS'ing >> to make it presentable. >> >> I don't give 2 hoots if it's lying. It's a damn cool shot, and worth >> every second it took to po

Re: Congratulations Jostein!

2009-03-12 Thread AlunFoto
2009/3/12 Miserere : > Congratulations on 100 photos in the Pentax Gallery. That's quite the feat   > :-) Thanks, Miserere. > Looking forward to your interview on PentaxDSLRs. uhoh... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM

OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread David Savage
Yesterday the boss closed down the office for half a day & took us go-karting. We did it last year & it was great fun, however this year I wanted to use the opportunity to practice my motorsport shooting (such that it was). Anywho, I spent about 3 hours, wandering around the track shooting my wor

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread Doug Brewer
David Savage wrote: Yesterday the boss closed down the office for half a day & took us go-karting. We did it last year & it was great fun, however this year I wanted to use the opportunity to practice my motorsport shooting (such that it was). Anywho, I spent about 3 hours, wandering around the

PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Bharath M
My parents are visiting and that means the pressure cooker is dusted off and rice and lentils are cooked the "normal" way! http://www.flickr.com/photos/itinerantobserver/3349405084/ -- Bharath -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNS

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Gonz
True, you did say darkroom vs photoshop. I inadvertently answered you when I meant to answer the "photos do not lie" issue. On 3/11/09, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Gonz" > Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control > (was:PESO:Church tower

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, David Savage wrote: > Anywho, I spent about 3 hours, wandering around the track shooting my > workmates with the D700 & 70-200mm f2.8. > > Today, my forearms are killing me. My limited experience in karting suggests that you should not complain about your sore a

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread David Savage
2009/3/12 Doug Brewer : > David Savage wrote: >> Dave (that said, the shots turned out great) > > pics or it didn't happen. Okay, you asked for it: I'm now over quota so they'll only be up for a couple of days. Cheers,

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread David Savage
2009/3/13 Matthew Hunt : > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, David Savage wrote: > >> Anywho, I spent about 3 hours, wandering around the track shooting my >> workmates with the D700 & 70-200mm f2.8. >> >> Today, my forearms are killing me. > > My limited experience in karting suggests that you sh

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread Doug Brewer
David Savage wrote: 2009/3/12 Doug Brewer : David Savage wrote: Dave (that said, the shots turned out great) pics or it didn't happen. Okay, you asked for it: I'm now over quota so they'll only be up for a cou

Re: Congratulations Jostein!

2009-03-12 Thread Miserere
2009/3/12 AlunFoto : > 2009/3/12 Miserere : >> Congratulations on 100 photos in the Pentax Gallery. That's quite the feat   >> :-) > > Thanks, Miserere. > >> Looking forward to your interview on PentaxDSLRs. > > uhoh... > Oh yes, the cat's out of the bag! :-D --M. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Pretty good autofocus. Liked the 2-3 car competition shots. Shots of the field starting and coming at you were my favorite. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM, David Savage wrote: > 2009/3/12 Doug Brewer : >> David Savage wrote: >>> Dave (that said, the shots turned out great) >> >

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Bharath M wrote: > My parents are visiting and that means the pressure cooker is dusted off and > rice and lentils are cooked the "normal" way! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itinerantobserver/3349405084/ > > -- Bharath M... Rice and lentils! That's a won

Re: PESO: Notre Dame de Boulogne

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > One of my less spectacular, somewhat moody shots. > > The trawlers in Boulogne-sur-Mer all have very religious names: "St. > Jean priez pour nous", "Dieu a bien fait", "Jésus de Prague", "Pater > Noster", "Scapulaire" ... > > Kind of a

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Graydon" Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower)) I'm not a big believer in the actual existence of a consensus about reality. Step out into the street in front of a moving bus. We'll see if we can reac

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Gonz" Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower)) True, you did say darkroom vs photoshop. I inadvertently answered you when I meant to answer the "photos do not lie" issue. And hear I thought you were jus

Re: PESO: Notre Dame de Boulogne

2009-03-12 Thread Bharath M
In the background, the blast-furnace of the Société de Ferromanganèse Paris-Outreau which has been demolished a few years ago. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/16313100 Lovely shot. Oddly enough, it reminds me of the movie Gattaca. -- Bharath -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread David Savage
2009/3/13 Doug Brewer : > David Savage wrote: >> >> 2009/3/12 Doug Brewer : >> >>> David Savage wrote: >>> Dave (that said, the shots turned out great) >>> >>> pics or it didn't happen. >> >> >> Okay, you asked for it: >> >> >>

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some nice shots. This is my favorite: DSC0375. I'd go for that tight a crop on many of the others. Paul On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:06 AM, David Savage wrote: 2009/3/12 Doug Brewer : David Savage wrote: Dave (that said, the shots turned out great) pics or it didn't happen. Okay, you asked for

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:21, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Bharath M wrote: My parents are visiting and that means the pressure cooker is dusted off and rice and lentils are cooked the "normal" way! http://www.flickr.com/photos/itinerantobserver/3349405084/ -- Bha

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. Love the steam coming from the pressure cooker. Well rendered. I'm glad it's almost lunch time. I'm going to have rice and kidney beans with a bit of pulled pork mixed in. Paul On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:21, frank theriault wrote:

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Bharath M wrote: > My parents are visiting and that means the pressure cooker is dusted off and > rice and lentils are cooked the "normal" way! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itinerantobserver/3349405084/ > > -- Bharath Bharath, I could almost smell the rice an

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:24:36AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: > - Original Message - From: "Graydon" >> I'm not a big believer in the actual existence of a consensus about >> reality. > > Step out into the street in front of a moving bus. > We'll see if we can reach a consensus about the

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: > "Bland and white".   Delightful typo, frank. HAR! I'm not sure it was a typo, I think it might have been a true Freudian slip. As vegans, my partner and I eat a lot of lentils (high in iron, doncha know). I like 'em, but she hates t

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread AlunFoto
2009/3/12 Graydon : > That's the refutation for an assertion that there is no objective > reality, isn't it? Get real, mate. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.ne

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Jack Davis
Spot on composition and lighting, Bharath! The mood both stirs the senses and comforts the soul. Jack --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Bharath M wrote: > From: Bharath M > Subject: PESO: Dinner Time > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 8:09 AM > My parents are visiting an

Re: Looking for a New Tripod

2009-03-12 Thread Nick Wright
I don't know about the Slik Pro series, but I purchased a Slik Sprint: http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/slik-ss1.html I wanted a compact, inexpensive tripod with a ball head and no quick release plates. I think this cost me about $70us. I like it quite a bit. I used it for lots of photos usi

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: "William Robb" - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Used fixer? >I seem to recall that you could put steel wool in used fixer, a magic > REDOX reaction would occur and the silver would plate itself onto the > steel. > > I also remember that you didn't get enough

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Nick Wright
Very nice photograph. Congrats on the long exposure too. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Spot on composition and lighting, Bharath! The mood both stirs the senses and > comforts the soul. > > Jack > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Bharath M wrote: > >> From: Bharath M >> Subje

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control(was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Graydon" Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control(was:PESO:Church tower)) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:24:36AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: - Original Message - From: "Graydon" I'm not a big believer in the actual existen

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Nick Wright
Very nice photograph. Congrats on the long exposure too. And I very much like many of the other photos in your flickr stream too. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Spot on composition and lighting, Bharath! The mood both stirs the senses and > comforts the soul. > > Jack >

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: Used fixer? All I know is the "new" column is really light when it comes in. I can lift it out of the barrel with one hand. The used column it replaces is so heavy I can barely lift it to get it into the barrel to ship back

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/3/11 ann sanfedele : >> If you want truth you need to witness every event first-hand and draw your >> own conclusions. > > > Ooops.  Your eyes (and your history) are as much a camera as the physical, > mechanical tool in your hands is, > and no more and no less reliable, most of the time. > >

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 11, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I would like to start developing my own black and whites here soon. But I wonder what to do with the used fixer? So I thought I'd email and see what y'all do? As others have said, the amount of silver in a typical hobbyist darkroom setup is t

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Gonz
On 3/12/09, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Gonz" > Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control > (was:PESO:Church tower)) > > > > > True, you did say darkroom vs photoshop. I inadvertently answered you > > when I meant to answer the "photos do

Digitizing Ansel Adams

2009-03-12 Thread Tim Bray
Neat video about how its being done: http://scobleizer.com/2009/03/12/digitizing-ansel-adams/ -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Christian
Bharath M wrote: My parents are visiting and that means the pressure cooker is dusted off and rice and lentils are cooked the "normal" way! http://www.flickr.com/photos/itinerantobserver/3349405084/ -- Bharath Beautiful shot. The light, composition and focus are perfect. -- Christian ht

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control(was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >Talking of which, does the Allingator still walk amongst us? he's gone very quiet - highly unusual! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Graydon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:59:31AM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: >> Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know? > > And they are especially _creepy_ pictures because they're of locations I > recognize! > > They're also too good

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Gonz
> > Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know? > > > cheers, > frank > So you have switched to pornograhpy? ;) -- Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk; we must act big.

Re: Looking for a New Tripod

2009-03-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
How I Buy A Tripod: - First consider what you want the tripod to support. Add the total weight of camera and lens assembly to find a maximum. - Consider what kind of head suits your uses best. Ball heads are best for speed and positioning flexibility. 3D heads are best for positioning pre

Re: Christine

2009-03-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 02:28:32PM +0100, Tim ?sleby wrote: > 2009/3/12 AlunFoto : > > 2009/3/12 Tim Øsleby : > >> Speaking of colon problems. Larry threads are not the only one that > >> are stripped. > > > > Now you seem to discuss a different Larry: > > http://www.leisuresuitlarry.org/ > > > > J

Re: PDML Annual reaches Barcelona

2009-03-12 Thread ann sanfedele
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Well, now I 'have' to do it...at least to correspond somehow your effort ! ;-) Thanks for your time on it...actually, in my case it has been somehow reassuring. I feared that my 'bricks' picture was too small to let appreciate colors and textures, but you proved me wro

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread Toine
It's a very very very bad idea to flush any chemicals down the toilet. Silver ions are highly toxic and organic chemicals from developer react with other bioorganic waste resulting in very toxic chemicals. Toine On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2009, at 4:3

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/12/09, Toine wrote: > It's a very very very bad idea to flush any chemicals blah blah blah blah > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bla

Imagekind?

2009-03-12 Thread Nick Wright
Many of my artist friends sell things via Etsy. I've often wished that there was something similar for photographers. And then yesterday I found imagekind.com. Has anyone used a service like this in the past to sell prints? Anyone have any thoughts on these kinds of services? Thanks. -- ~Nick D

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Mar 12, 2009, at 08:59 , Graydon wrote: the landlord was a small church Small enough to get in to collect the rent, I presume. :-) Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was:PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:07:39PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: > On Mar 12, 2009, at 08:59 , Graydon wrote: >> the landlord was a small church > > Small enough to get in to collect the rent, I presume. Religiously. :) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: Christine

2009-03-12 Thread Ken Waller
Larry threads are not the only one that are stripped. Yeah, I've had several bolts that suffered the same fate. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: Re: Christine Speaking of colon problems. Larry threads are not the only

Re: Notre Dame de Boulogne

2009-03-12 Thread Ken Waller
Nice capture. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: PESO: Notre Dame de Boulogne One of my less spectacular, somewhat moody shots. The trawlers in Boulogne-sur-Mer all have very religious names: "St. Jean priez pour n

Re: OT - Observation...

2009-03-12 Thread Ken Waller
What Paul said. I did some indoor karting a few years ago with a group of my then fellow workers. We were strapped in & had to wear a neck brace along with a helmet. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: OT - Observati

Re: PDML Annual reaches Barcelona

2009-03-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/12/2009 11:20:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Jaume Lahuerta wrote: >Well, now I 'have' to do it...at least to correspond somehow your effort ! ;-) > >Thanks for your time on it...actually, in my case it has been somehow reassuring. I feared tha

Re: PESO: Dinner Time

2009-03-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/12/2009 8:02:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bharath.m...@gmail.com writes: My parents are visiting and that means the pressure cooker is dusted off and rice and lentils are cooked the "normal" way! http://www.flickr.com/photos/itinerantobserver/3349405084/ -- Bharath

Re: Used fixer?

2009-03-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/12/2009 11:27:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sdlovel...@gmail.com writes: On 3/12/09, Toine wrote: > It's a very very very bad idea to flush any chemicals blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Re: PDML Annual reaches Barcelona

2009-03-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:57 PM, wrote: > We're, each of us, really our own  worst critics, aren't we? My two photos are by far the best in the book. You guys are really holding me back. cheers, frank ps: It was actually really hard to write that, given the two absolute gems that are opposi

Re: Looking for a New Tripod

2009-03-12 Thread Ken Waller
Well done Godfrey. But I would add, for max stability, don't extend the center column. Get a tripod that is tall enough. And if you do any macro photography you might want to consider a tripod that will go flat to the ground. With the low weight of today's carbon fibre tripods, I was able to

Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tower))

2009-03-12 Thread Ken Waller
Holy shit, guys, I'm just taking fuckin' pictures, you know? Sounds like a MARK! with a little editing. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Ethics of Manipulation (was: Re: Perspective control (was: PESO:Church tow

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