On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:23 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
wrote:
> Someone should beat Scott about the head and shoulders, June and July
> should be up by now. I know he's probably busy, but Geez.
Well, I think the PUG is pretty much a dead duck. It's got such a low
profile now that people just don't r
On 7/27/2010 9:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
I could get by without the LCD, but there's the issue of weather
sealing. To be honest. I use the K-x a lot more than the K20
anyways, it's just that I sometimes want/need weather sealing, or one
of the other K20 features.
This is what I also thought -
On 7/29/2010 12:02 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
On 2010-07-28 16:52, Sam L wrote:
My backup strategy so far has been very basic: [...]
If it ain't off site, it ain't a backup.
http://www.taobackup.com/
:-)
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On 7/28/2010 11:52 PM, Sam L wrote:
Anyway: is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg file is
working correctly / not corrupt? Is there a way to verify that your
"copy" operation was successful?
(I have no evidence that the copy operation is what corrupted my
files, so maybe I should just
http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/mystery
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I would be totally stoked to have Chris Cain play at my birthday party. My
friend Phil, who is a pretty hot guitarist himself, not only got Chris to play
at his 18th birthday party last night, but got to play with Chris.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4839409287/in/set-7215762448183796
Jerry in Arizona wrote:
A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice
comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground would improve the
image. Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening and I took a few with a
wider lens and included some ground clutter
On 7/29/2010 5:38 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
Neither lens is wide enough for a classroom shot, if you want to
cover at least half the room. You'd need the 12-24 for full
coverage. Paul
Paul, I am speaking from experience and very particular need. I do
believe that 24 mm on wide end will be enou
On 7/29/2010 4:07 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
I am not going to buy any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without
them.
I know you've already seen (and responded to the thread) but I'll say it anyway:
MARK!!
cheers,
frank
Oh yes, th
On 7/29/2010 1:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm
so broke I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these
days, but that's the focal length range that I keep finding myself
Frank
I know what you mean - I had a check and the focal length was 90mm, that
lens does get better OOF at the longer focal lengths.
The last regular home game of the season is tomorrow night and I will switch
to TAv mode to get max aperture and still have some control over shutter
speed.
So you seem to know better sky gods than I do. Or at least you feed them
better. Could use a little more contrast but very nice.
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"Jerry in Arizona" wrote:
>A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice
>comments, but i
On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Cotty wrote:
> On 27/7/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>
>> I really lucked out on the lighting. I put up clear plastic over the
>> dance floor in my back yard to protect it from the rain, and it makes a
>> fantastic diffuser:
>> http://www.flickr.c
On Jul 28, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> Chris Mitchell wrote:
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>> Sent: 23 July 2010 18:43
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
>>>
>>> A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and
>>> ask
A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice
comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground would improve the
image. Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening and I took a few with a
wider lens and included some ground clutter. The building on the low
frank theriault wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
thanks bruce.
"Found art" would lose something essential if I created it ... ;-)
Exactly!
This is a terrific photo.
cheers,
frank
What Frank said
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:00 +0100, "Bob W" wrote:
> > G'day all
> >
> > A shot from my recent trip to Noosa on Queensland's Sunshine Coast. I
> came
> > across this creek with black deposits in the rippled sand beneath the
> tannin
> > coloured water.
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/
Neither lens is wide enough for a classroom shot, if you want to cover at least
half the room. You'd need the 12-24 for full coverage.
Paul
On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA
> 24-90/3.5-4.5.
>
> Reason
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/malakoff-rockfestival-navigators.html
> Not much to say really. Except that I've had a great weekend of music
> and photography fun.
>
> Feel free to comment
All very good shots, but the second one, with t
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
I am not going to buy any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.
I know you've already seen (and responded to the thread) but I'll say it anyway:
MARK!!
cheers,
frank
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I much prefer take 1. More seeds in the air. Makes me want to sneeze:-).
Well done.
Paul
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:21 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> A more minimalist approach to the seed-spreading thistles:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow-take-2.html
>
> I don't know whic
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> thanks bruce.
>
> "Found art" would lose something essential if I created it ... ;-)
Exactly!
This is a terrific photo.
cheers,
frank
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You might want to check on the health of your hard drive. A failing HD
will lead to all kinds copy failures.
On 7/28/2010 5:30 PM, Bob W wrote:
My backup strategy so far has been very basic: I have a couple windows xp
[...]
Anyway: is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg f
A more minimalist approach to the seed-spreading thistles:
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow-take-2.html
I don't know which I prefer (here's take 1):
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow.html
I vacillate.
Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
*istD, M200m
On Jul 28, 2010, at 7:22 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:31 PM, P N Stenquist
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 we
I second what Mark and Adam said. The Tammy has been my go-to zoom for
the last 2 years. 28mm isn't wide on APS-C, but I much prefer a
normal-to-long-tele zoom than a wide-to-short-tele, but that's just
me.
--M.
On 28/07/2010, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman
On 07/28/2010 03:51 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Larry Colen wrote:
Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke
I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days, but that's
the focal length range th
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:31 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>>
>>> Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend. I was very
>>> impressed by how well the K7 handled the expo
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Larry Colen wrote:
>
>>Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke
>>I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days, but that's
>>the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA
>> 24-90/3.5-4.5.
>>
>> Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to shoot
>> insid
Larry Colen wrote:
>Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke
>I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days, but that's
>the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will
>grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more con
On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA
> 24-90/3.5-4.5.
>
> Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to shoot
> inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Doug Franklin
wrote:
> On 2010-07-28 14:07, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> I did this once before and it worked, but it was a few years ago.
>>
>> I made a slide show, with music of the wedding shots in iMovie HD. It
>> says to "share" to iDvd which i have. I dropped
On 2010-07-28 14:52 , Sam L wrote:
This was mostly working fine but a while ago I realized a bunch of
files were corrupt, and I have no idea when or how they got corrupted.
one easy way to check integrity while backing up is with rsync, though
it is not the ideal tool to check for corruption a
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11341690
Revised in response to comments received on the first version, which is here:
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> My backup strategy so far has been very basic: I have a couple windows xp
[...]
>
> Anyway: is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg file is working
correctly
> / not corrupt? Is there a way to verify that your "copy" operation was
> successful?
>
> (I have no evidence that the copy op
My take. Someone at Kodak doesn't think the this technology will be
maintained much longer. But it may have to be reproduced in the
future. Publishing a book will widely disseminate the information, so
that it might not be lost for all time.
On 7/28/2010 12:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
paul
Someone should beat Scott about the head and shoulders, June and July
should be up by now. I know he's probably busy, but Geez.
On 7/28/2010 3:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Rob and Paul:
Yes, the PUG has size limitations, but then so does the Pentax Photo
Gallery. Many members of this grou
On 2010-07-28 16:52, Sam L wrote:
My backup strategy so far has been very basic: [...]
If it ain't off site, it ain't a backup.
1. both thumbnail and full image will not open
2. thumbnail will display, but full image will not open
What does "will not open" mean? What messages do you ge
Hi all,
My backup strategy so far has been very basic: I have a couple
windows xp computers and a couple of external drives. I schedule a
backup of files from my official set of files to my external drive.
And I also manually copy the files from time to time to some other
drive.
This was mostly
On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer
wrote:
Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend. I
was very impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995&size=lg
(K7
On 2010-07-28 14:07, David J Brooks wrote:
I did this once before and it worked, but it was a few years ago.
I made a slide show, with music of the wedding shots in iMovie HD. It
says to "share" to iDvd which i have. I dropped and dragged the file
as it says, but when i go to burn the project, i
Pardon my posting a couple days early, I don't expect to have time to
post on Friday.
I have three lenses I want to get rid of, and I'm not overly worried
about how much I get for them. I don't have the lenses in front of me
here at work so I don't have all the specs, but if you want to know more
In retrospect, I should have waited until today to send the K20 in for repair.
Last night a friend was celebrating his 18th birthday at a local blues jam. I
had heard that Chris Cain was going to show up, so I kitted myself with both my
K100d super, and the K-x. I put the FA77 on the K100 and
Rob and Paul:
Yes, the PUG has size limitations, but then so does the Pentax Photo
Gallery. Many members of this group still submit there, despite the
size of the images.
I really think that the PUG can serve a purpose for the list. There
is something really satisfying about seeing a number of
Yep, and it seems AF in LV is MUCH improved.
2010/7/28 Dario Bonazza :
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/1007/10072800pentaxk7firmware.asp
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dario
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
> Wow, nice car, and well lit and composed.
That about sums it up!
Terrific shot, Paul.
cheers,
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend. I was very
> impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995&size=lg
>
> (K7, FA 24-90)
Wish I were there. Sigh...
;-)
Of
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:17 AM, wrote:
>
> I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my camera.
>
> The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, even thouigh I
> played the game for many years. But with much practice I think I am
> starting to get the hang of
Someone has taken over Frank's identity. I know he would never post a
color image of a "Sunny Meadow."
Nice catch, though, and quite interesting.
Dan
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:03 AM, frank theriault
wrote:
> Whatever these plants were (maybe thistles of some sort?) they were
> going to seed
Fortunately, The Village still lives. I have walked its streets and
entered the residence of Number 6:
http://www.portmeirion-village.com/
Dan
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Bob W wrote:
>> Be Seeing you...
>>
>> http://www.theonion.com/articles/budget-cuts-force-british-government-
>> to-sh
I did this once before and it worked, but it was a few years ago.
I made a slide show, with music of the wedding shots in iMovie HD. It
says to "share" to iDvd which i have. I dropped and dragged the file
as it says, but when i go to burn the project, it asks me to add the
file, which i did, but a
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:24:18PM -0400, Miserere wrote:
>
> John,
>
> If you're interested in what I have to say about the E-PL1, then
> please take a look at parts 1 and 2 of my reviews:
>
> http://enticingthelight.com/2010/03/30/review-olympus-pen-e-pl1-part-1-first-impressions/
> http://ent
Thanks Brian.
Jeanettes comment did not suggest the alternative rendering, it was
just a general "likes" comment. But she made me take a second look at
the picture, then I realised I wanted to try a new take on it.
First I tried B&W, but it did not turn out good, so I ended up with
this under satur
thanks bruce.
"Found art" would lose something essential if I created it ... ;-)
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Wow it almost looks like you created the "art" rather than finding it. Much
> like the previous shot, I really like this one too.
> --
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paul stenquist wrote:
>On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
>> http://makingkodakfilm.com/
>> Making KODAK Film
>> The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
>> Photographic Film Manufacturing
>>
>I guess film i
I'm glad you said that, Brian. I struggled with that issue before
posting the image.
At first, I rotated the image to make the building lines vertical, but
that through the blue fence out of horizontal, and it looked worse (to
my eye). Then, I tried perspective adjustment in Photo Shop, but that
Wow it almost looks like you created the "art" rather than finding it. Much
like the previous shot, I really like this one too.
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"Godfrey DiGiorgi" wrote:
>A poesy available for your viewing ... along with another photograph,
>of course.
>
> ht
Umm, yeah! I'd say so! Getting the hang of it indeed. Very nice work there!
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p...@philnortheast.com wrote:
>
>I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my camera.
>
>The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, ev
Thanks for you comments, Bob and Frank, and thanks for looking.
Dan
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:03 PM, frank theriault
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
> wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070254
>>
>> Comments, suggestions, criticisms and abuse all we
I guess film industry trade secrets aren't all that important any more.
On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
> http://makingkodakfilm.com/
> Making KODAK Film
> The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
> Photograp
A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
http://makingkodakfilm.com/
Making KODAK Film
The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
Photographic Film Manufacturing
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Chris Mitchell wrote:
Larry Colen wrote:
Sent: 23 July 2010 18:43
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and
asked me to come out and photograph it.
This is the one that she snagged for he
Nice sunset scene. Looks like a place I'd like to be.
Paul
On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> Thanks Brian and Daniel.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:11 -0400, "David J Brooks"
>> wrote:
>>> Couple more from the
Thanks Brian and Daniel.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:11 -0400, "David J Brooks"
> wrote:
>> Couple more from the wedding weekend.
>>
>> fishing at sunset.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319438
>>
>> Shell and line.
>> http://
Nice shot. Very pleasant scene.
Paul
On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Thanks, Brian! I saw them from a distance, and had my camera on a
cushion in front of me by the time we came within range.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Brian Walters wrote:
Thanks, Brian! I saw them from a distance, and had my camera on a cushion in
front of me by the time we came within range.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Brian Walters wrote:
> From: Brian Walters
> Subject: Re: PESO - Morning fishing
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:40 +0200, "Tim Øsleby"
wrote:
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/malakoff-rockfestival-navigators.html
> Not much to say really. Except that I've had a great weekend of music
> and photography fun.
>
> Feel free to comment
>
OK. I will
An enjoyable set, espec
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:11 -0400, "David J Brooks"
wrote:
> Couple more from the wedding weekend.
>
> fishing at sunset.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319438
>
> Shell and line.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319439
>
Great to see you made time for other types of pho
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:10 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele"
wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, "Doug Franklin"
> >>many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else. At
> >>least in the US, the word "argument" has overtones of disagreement,
> >>though
Brian Walters wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, "Doug Franklin"
wrote:
On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote:
(snip)
many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else. At
least in the US, the word "argument" has overtones of disagreement,
though
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:28 -0700, "Rick Womer"
wrote:
> Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend. I was very
> impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995&size=lg
>
> (K7, FA 24-90)
>
Fascinating image. You were
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:37 -0400, "Daniel J. Matyola"
wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070254
>
> Comments, suggestions, criticisms and abuse all welcomed.
>
A well thought out image with a great title.
My only problem with it is the backwards lean on the buildings. I think
i
It also fits better since it's essentially a "dove bar" shape. I am
"patiently" awaiting my Panasonic 20 1.7 pancake which will give me
the desired degree of compactness, not to mention speed and field of
view. I suspect the Kx with the DA 40 would be similar.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Mi
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:17 +1000, p...@philnortheast.com wrote:
>
> I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my
> camera.
>
> The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, even thouigh I
> played the game for many years. But with much practice I think I am
> sta
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, "Doug Franklin"
wrote:
> On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> > I used "argument" as a synonym to "reasoning"... In no way did I imply
> > an argument as in: "a reason given in proof or rebuttal" or in "
> > discourse intended to persuade". All quotes of
On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote:
I used "argument" as a synonym to "reasoning"... In no way did I imply
an argument as in: "a reason given in proof or rebuttal" or in "
discourse intended to persuade". All quotes of course are from the same
Merriam Webster page.
The more English langua
Whatever these plants were (maybe thistles of some sort?) they were
going to seed and when the wind blew their fluff was flying about in
the sunshine. I was only partially successful in capturing that, but
I do kind of like this one anyway:
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow.
The 24-90 was my favorite lens on my (P)Z-1p, and lately it has been spending a
lot of time on my K7. Any problems have been with the photographer, not the
camera or lens!
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Got the subj. today from the
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Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA
24-90/3.5-4.5.
Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to
shoot inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy
any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.
First impr
On 7/27/2010 8:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I didn't think it was an argument, Boris. Just information.
From Merriam Webster on the web:
argument: a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a
conclusion.
I used "argument" as a synonym to "reasoning"... In no way did I imply
On 27/7/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>I really lucked out on the lighting. I put up clear plastic over the
>dance floor in my back yard to protect it from the rain, and it makes a
>fantastic diffuser:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624371211856/
That's your ba
You should have told him this happens whenever you don't order your
lens from Sharper Image.
2010/7/28 Larry Colen :
> Something you folks may find amusing.
>
> I was chatting with a friend at the dojo today. He recently bought an image
> stabilized Sigma 50-500 for his Canon 7D, but returned it
> Be Seeing you...
>
> http://www.theonion.com/articles/budget-cuts-force-british-government-
> to-shut-down,17763/
>
you never know - it could come true:
< http://www.weymouth.gov.uk/home.asp?sv=1056>
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