Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Bill
On 15/04/2013 9:51 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Judging by the replies to my question, the one major shortcoming that would be addressed by going to full frame is that it would be a larger viewfinder that would make focusing easier. Full frame would also increase the ability to crop a

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
No. Don't know you well enough yet to dislike you. When emotions are running high sometimes it's worth while taking a step back and being a bit cautious. M aka DThere are also a lot of cranky old farts on this list. ;-) I am an old fartess, myself. In a message dated 4/15/2013

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: PESO - New and Old

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
Nice shot, good juxtaposition. Boy, I want to see that place! {Sigh.} Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 7:17:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: I'm posting pix from France in no particular order. This is at the Louvre, again; the new pyramid and one

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Terror, the object of terror is terror, to paraphrase Orwell. On 4/16/2013 12:23 AM, John Coyle wrote: So glad to hear our PDML-ers are Ok, but still what a terrible thing to happen. What are these people trying to achieve by killing innocents like this? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 15, 2013, at 23:09 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: M aka DThere are also a lot of cranky old farts on this list. ;-) I am an old fartess, myself. Guess I have to go put on my blue t-shirt that states: I resemble that last remark! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Camera weight, (or mass), is an interesting thing really. You want less when you're carrying it, and more when you're trying to hold it steady for a shot. On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far,

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread David Mann
On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Wow.. Glad to hear that Christine and her brother and Mark are all safe. Our hearts go out to all the victims and all the survivors. What a terrible day. Yes, what Dan said. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959

2013-04-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:33 AM, George Sinos wrote: Sometimes the stuff in the background of and old photo is as interesting as the original subject. Just a couple of personal observations. http://george-sinos.squarespace.com/blog/2013/4/13/dad-and-the-philco-1959 The value of that photo,

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread DagT
Den 16. apr. 2013 kl. 09:47 skrev David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Wow.. Glad to hear that Christine and her brother and Mark are all safe. Our hearts go out to all the victims and all the survivors. What a

Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job?

Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 April 2013 22:27, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I have no idea but all the photogs I know that

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Look up Ugol's Law. ;-)

Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, Rob Studdert wrote: On 16 April 2013 22:27, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr?

Re: PESO - New and Old

2013-04-16 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Marnie!  As I have said before, some of the architecture rivals the art it houses. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:22 AM Subject: Re: PESO - New and Old

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 01:51:11PM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: I do agree with you on the focusing screen, which is why I use a Katz Eye which is very good. Larry's K-x viewfinder seemed much darker than the

Re: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959

2013-04-16 Thread George Sinos
Thanks for all of the comments everyone. I'm glad I took the time to scan those older slides. Unlike the print photo albums the slides tend to get put in a box on a shelf and become out of site out of mind. The print albums get put on the same shelf, but they are easier to open and view when

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread George Sinos
Actually, my easy chair is more of a hindrance to my photography than any feature of my camera. It needs a feature that automatically ejects the sitter at random intervals. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Aahz

GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Nielsen
Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Jack Davis
Each one a triumph!   Jack - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent gallery. Good to see on this sad morning. Paul On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Rick Womer
Christine, that's a really nice set.  The mixture of struggle and comedy is very engaging. Cheers, Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:50 AM

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
MARK! In a message dated 4/16/2013 6:47:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gsi...@gmail.com writes: Actually, my easy chair is more of a hindrance to my photography than any feature of my camera. It needs a feature that automatically ejects the sitter at random intervals. gs George Sinos

OT: Awkward Wedding Photos

2013-04-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://themetapicture.com/awkward-wedding-pictures/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Boston.com's The Big Picture page is always good but their photos from yesterday are amazing. Some are a bit gruesome, so keep that in mind if you're squeamish. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/04/terror_at_the_boston_marathon.html #4 looks like a Pulitzer contender right away. The overall

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine, A very nice set. I love the guy with the Easter Basket, and the others in costumes. A good set from a sad day. We have a sportscaster on TV here in Chicago. (Mike Adamle) A leading rusher in the Big Ten in the late 60's who had a short career in pro football - a tough guy. He's run

Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? Many of them say, I used to shoot

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Joe, We read George Orwell's 1984 in high school English class. I guess it has taken another 30 years for the tech to catch up. I have no doubt that I can be profiled on line, but try not to reveal to much. We're both part of the OWG fraternity (Old White Guys). If they start coming after us, the

Re: OT: Awkward Wedding Photos

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Funny set Dan. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://themetapicture.com/awkward-wedding-pictures/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-5 Black White

2013-04-16 Thread larry
Shh. I won't tell them if You won’t. Larry in Dallas -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 Black White On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, larry larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: Some editors actually

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
I hadn't. (Don't think I've ever seen any interview, in fact.) Enjoyed it a lot. He could not only photograph very well, he could also talk about it very clearly. I didn't realize he smiled so much, that was good to find out. Marnie aka Doe :-) Thanks for sharing. In a message dated

Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? Nope, i get yelled at if i mention

Re: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
George, I think your very right. Now I've got to scan my best slides, and my Dad's slides. And get my sister, who is collecting old family photos, to do some book making as well. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all of the comments

Re: Unusual wedding photo quandary

2013-04-16 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, Walt wrote: I'll have a sit-down with her and see if I can steer the conversation in that direction. It's just a little difficult to find a good segue, but I'll figure it out. There are basically two options: * Direct approach is that you ask her straight out (I'm

Re: Boston PDMLers

2013-04-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Heart goes out to the victims of this attack. I hope that there'll be no more deaths as the result of this unfortunate event. On 4/15/2013 11:31 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Just seeing news about explosions at the Boston Marathon. Hope you guys are OK. And I hope the toll doesn't get any worse.

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Peter, I have to humbly suggest a different opinion on this sad matter. The object of terror is not to frighten people. Well, it is indeed, but it is the immediate effect. There is much more sinister, more long lasting secondary effect. It is that of division of the society into several

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread George Sinos
A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Zos Xavius
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display

Boston PDML'ers please check in.

2013-04-16 Thread Bipin Gupta
The serial bombings in Boston are very unfortunate.This is the handiwork of sick, evil and cruel people taking out their ire on innocents. Let us tell these scheming folks that in no way it intimidates or frightens us, and that evil shall beget evil. We stand in solidarity behind all things good

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Aahz Maruch On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Look up Ugol's Law. ;-)

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Boston.com's The Big Picture page is always good but their photos from yesterday are amazing. Some are a bit gruesome, so keep that in mind if you're squeamish. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/04/terror_at_the_boston_marathon.html #4 looks like a Pulitzer contender

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Nielsen
Jesus. I recognize some of those photos from this morning's paper... the one I had to hide, so my youngest wouldn't see. Hats off to those photojournalists. Not sure I could do that. I think I saw that 78 yr old interviewed on the news last night... from Oklahoma, I think. There is footage of

OT: Photographing the Night Sky

2013-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
I received this in the mail a few days ago. Kind of got lost in some other stuff that's going on, but it's today at 1:00pm CDT if anyone is interested has the time http://elabs7.com/functions/message_view.html?mid=1721618mlid=747siteid=506781uid=1eee1214f1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: K-5 Black White

2013-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:29 AM, larry larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: Shh. I won't tell them if You won’t. Larry in Dallas -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 Black White On Sat, Apr 13, 2013

What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Bipin Gupta
Can't fault your thinking Rob. But even an entry level DSLR today is far far superior to most Phone Camera or PS, and they certainly are not under performing tools by any measure. So it is more the user of the tools that has to ensure it is possible to complete his job well. Lets see, pining for:-

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html

PESO: Mango Muse (by Bong Manayon)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
Apologies to Bong, but I just have to share this image that he created from his Flickr photostream. It's a keeper. Reminds me of an image I would have seen in one of the old Kodak photography publications, back in the day. And it is shot on film.

Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread Bill
On 16/04/2013 6:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I don't read other camera forums. In fact, this is about the only camera

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Really enjoyed this interview, and I'm planning to watch the others, eg on Brandt and Kertesz. I have a couple of Kertesz books; he's a fave. Thanks, Darren! On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I hadn't seen this before, and thought I'd pass it along. Only

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Bill
On 16/04/2013 9:39 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Peter, I have to humbly suggest a different opinion on this sad matter. The object of terror is not to frighten people. Well, it is indeed, but it is the immediate effect. There is much more sinister, more long lasting secondary effect. It is that

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread John Francis
I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) ONE image? In the HISTORY of photography. ; ) Extra points to those who get the Orange County movie reference. : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
The story behind the photo: http://lightbox.time.com/2013/04/15/tragedy-in-boston-one-photographers-eyewitness-account/#1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 16, 2013, at 09:20 , Christine Nielsen wrote: Jesus. I recognize some of those photos from this morning's paper... the one I had to hide, so my youngest wouldn't see. Hats off to those photojournalists. Not sure I could do that. I was a photographer in the US Navy 62-66. I would

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look

Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in

2013-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Moving. Thanks for sharing. On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: The story behind the photo: http://lightbox.time.com/2013/04/15/tragedy-in-boston-one-photographers-eyewitness-account/#1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Walt
I'm surprised by how many people find that an issue. I've always thought of camera heft as a feature rather than a bug. I might balk at that characterization if I ever had to lug around a full-frame or medium format for any significant length of time. But, I will say that the weight of the

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised by how many people find [weight] an issue. I've always thought of camera heft as a feature rather than a bug. I walk my dog in the park every day. I only take my K20D along when I've pre-decided it's picture taking

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too? https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt

Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?

2013-04-16 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-16 13:41 Walt wrote I'm surprised by how many people find that an issue. I've always thought of camera heft as a feature rather than a bug. i carry a K-5 and one or two primes often, and my shoulder feels the heft as enough of a detriment that i'm sure i'll be in the mirrorless

Re: PESO Ten meter Mary

2013-04-16 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-15 19:25 Larry Colen wrote On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 05:32:39PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-04-13 12:50 Larry Colen wrote Our lady of peace, across the street from my office: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8645289393/ Mary, meet Five Meter Fido (caution - known to

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
One thing I found really fascinating in the video, Ansel often boosted the contrast way up. Especially on his most well-known photos. If he had done that in color it would have been immediately noticeable. In other words, he was a Photoshopper well before there was a Photoshop. So, yes,

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too? https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5 We're sorry, we encountered an

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks, Jack, Rick, Paul, Bob... I used to go to the marathon every now then as a kid, but have been faithfully attending for the past 5 years that my brother has run. It's his crowd -- the middle to the back of the packers -- that the event is really about for me. Not elite athletes, but they

Re: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread kwaller
Nice captures! I'm amazed at the lack of exertion on the faces of most of the runners. Looked like a great day for the marathon - up to a point. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Subject:

Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?

2013-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bill On 16/04/2013 6:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I don't read other camera forums. In fact, this is about the

Re: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thank you. It was a beautiful day, almost perfect marathon weather. If you recall, last year it was over 90 degrees -- that was crazy. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice captures! I'm amazed at the lack of exertion on the faces of most of the runners. Looked

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Great set, Christine! How right you are to proudly show this set of images that depict the best in personal achievement, strength, and endurance. The good guys shall prevail! Cheers, Christine Christine Aguila, Asst. Professor Communications Dept., Truman College FC4 President On Apr 16,

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)

2013-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)

2013-04-16 Thread Doug Brewer
On 4/16/13 4:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:33 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. Afraid I have to stand with Paul and Darren on this. I've been in Ansel's darkroom. He was a remarkable warm and friendly gent who, behind that persona, was a fussy old artist

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too?

OT - Critique of Monkey Farter

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Brilliant. http://hyperallergic.com/68920/art-or-monkey-fart/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Jack Davis
I agree, Ann. I imagine his dramatic style had a bit to do with the vivid landscape choice in the BW converter. Jack From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
Google Ansel Adams Polaroid for a good time. Coincidentally, that is almost the exact same thing I read on the plant bathroom stall at work earlier today. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 4/16/13 4:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)

2013-04-16 Thread Doug Brewer
On 4/16/13 4:44 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 4/16/13 4:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical

Re: PESO - Rennes station, Dag inspired

2013-04-16 Thread DagT
15. apr. 2013 kl. 02:09 skrev Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: My flow of PESOs (always fitful) was interrupted by work on our inpatient service and a meeting in Minneapolis (where it snowed all 4 days I was there). So let's go back to France. Someone commented that they would be

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
Paul's comment is thought provoking because with today's tools, it IS possible to do similar manipulations in color. The problem is that it is easy to push the needle too far and then people react negatively to the image (as in not realistic, photoshopped, oversharpened, etc.). That in itself

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
I've seen a lot of BW images lately that have that nasty, crispy, overcooked-HDR look to them, so it's not only possible but being done. We need to squint and move the sliders back and forth between Zero-Effect and Yikes-OMG until we reach somewhere inside the Happy-Medium point. On Tue, Apr 16,

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Darren Addy
That's true, Bruce. I agree with you. I was comparing the old darkroom way of dodging burning to the new way of doing the same thing with color images in digital. But you are certainly correct, you can dial monochrome digital images to eleven in post-processing also. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
That is sooo cool, Joseph. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 1:46:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pentax...@mac.com writes: On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:33 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. Afraid I have to stand with Paul

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to upgrade. M aka D :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: The most detailed change list I've seen so far is from Victoria Bampton (The Lightroom Queen):

Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)

2013-04-16 Thread Eactivist
So that's where the idea of masking came from. A darkroom technique. D'uh. Marnie aka Doe :-) Well said. In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:33:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often

Re: PESO: Abandoned factory panorama

2013-04-16 Thread Mark C
Very cool. To me it seems odd that it is so brightly lit, but it is odd in a good way. Mark On 4/11/2013 11:32 PM, David Parsons wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8641958744/ I went out exploring a local factory that has abandoned for a while. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA

2013-04-16 Thread Brian Walters
.. the western part, anyway. During May and early June my wife and I, together with our two adult sons Chris and Jeff, will be taking a road and rail trip around the western USA (Chris' partner Cassie will be joining us towards the end of the trip). We'll be starting in Los Angeles and

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread David J Brooks
Yes Dave On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to upgrade. M aka D :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: The most detailed change list I've seen so far is from

Re: Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA

2013-04-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 08:17:17AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: .. the western part, anyway. During May and early June my wife and I, together with our two adult sons Chris and Jeff, will be taking a road and rail trip around the western USA (Chris' partner Cassie will be joining us towards

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
+1 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Dave On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to upgrade. M aka D :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, these updates look fun. Looking forward to the upgrade. Cheers, Christine On Apr 15, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/ New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta

Re: PESO - Knuckle Duster

2013-04-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That makes more sense. I'm thinking, But I thought backgrounds are ~supposed~ to be fuzzy! ;-) I wish the background were less fuzzy, too. Of the six frames I took this was the cleanest. Thanks for looking and commenting, and thanks to the others for commenting and to everyone who looked.

RE: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959

2013-04-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Looks just like my dad did back then! Mind you I think everyone's dad looked just like that in 1959. ;-) Great pic, quite the momento. Too bad you couldn't keep a bit of that armchair in the frame after the straightening. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: George Sinos

Re: PESO: Abandoned factory panorama

2013-04-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I thought the lights were rather odd as well. Maybe to keep vandals, squatters and other unsavory types out? Certainly seems a waste of electricity. It really adds to the image, though. Gives it a rather surreal feel. Terrific photo! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark C

Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill

2013-04-16 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks you so much for sharing these Christine. Nice images of course! But beyond that, these and your and Mark's posts with a local's view of the bombing and all that followed help to remind me of the thousands of good normal people who had a good day: runners challenging themselves in the

Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available

2013-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required. That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.) On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM,

Re: PESO: Mango Muse (by Bong Manayon)

2013-04-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a stunning portrait, with vivid and pleasing colors. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies to Bong, but I just have to share this image that he created from his Flickr

Re: PESO: Mango Muse (by Bong Manayon)

2013-04-16 Thread Zos Xavius
Very nice. the composition is very interesting. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: That is a stunning portrait, with vivid and pleasing colors. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM,

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