smart previews are only on version 5 - worth the upgrade for this
feature alone in your case, but there are some other nice features in
version 5 too
Alastair
On 25 October 2013 13:53, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
Excellent... easier than I thought. Thanks, David Godfrey!
On
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 07:59:50PM -0700, Bruce wrote:
Wow, I love this shot! Well worth wading around.
Thanks. I totally lucked out both on the sunset being better than
expected, and it being low tide.
One small compensation for it being a full moon.
Larry
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 05:29:20PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
A nice set. Brings back good memories of summers on the coast. I used to hike
in the canyon that runs east from tMoro Bay I think it's La Jolla Canyon. I
recall hiking back four or five miles into the canyon and coming upon a
No idea about the movie, but it's a superb shot.
B
On 25 Oct 2013, at 00:13, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone remember which movie that's from?
Anyway, this is the Eighth Street regulars watching the East Enders who
showed up to spend a few hours at the local skate park:
On 24/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
https://www.slrlounge.com/nikon-teases-new-pure-photography-camera-new-video
This might prove interesting. I have a few nice Nikkor lenses for my F
(Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S, Micro-Nikkor 55/3.5, Nikkor-H 85/1.8, Micro-Nikkor
105/2.8 AI-S)
On 24/10/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed:
V for video.
I've been playing around with timelapse and hyperlapse recently, and
with my recent vacation to Aruba, I decided to make this video to
occupy me (my 4th time to Aruba, and I can only spend so much time in
the sun :) ).
All
Well done!
Congratulations.
B.
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Thank you, Frank.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:38 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Cool!
Love the colours.
Doesn't hurt this your model is incredibly beautiful.
;-)
Cheers,
frank
Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-model
Darren, which rule or rules would you rather we'd not broken? :)
Thanks!
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
This image breaks a lot of the rules, and while I am normally as much
in favor of anarchy as the next anarchist, this image makes me examine
my
That's great, Frank. I like the square crop.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:13 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone remember which movie that's from?
Anyway, this is the Eighth Street regulars watching the East Enders who
showed up to spend a few hours at the local skate park:
I got a similar warning as Rick from WL's IT'S dept. it sounds like there are
some network issues and they want to see them fixed first.
Steve Desjardins
On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
The university that provides my paycheck issued a warning this
Very nice, Dave! Great fun to watch. And I want to go Aruba! Cheers,
Christine
On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:51 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
V for video.
I've been playing around with timelapse and hyperlapse recently, and
with my recent vacation to Aruba, I decided to make
Thanks, Bruce and Frank!
I had a geometry itch to scratch…
Rick
On Oct 24, 2013, at 23:17 , Bruce wrote:
Interesting patterns. The broom helps to tie the three sections together.
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Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Another from Lancaster
On Oct 24, 2013, at 20:26 , Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Has anyone upgraded their Mac to Maverick? Any glitches. It's supposed to
speed some things up and has some nice new features. But I'm a little nervous
about diving right in on this one. Sounds like a significant
Why is Epson software always a problem with every new OS? That clinches it for
me: No Maverick in my immediate future. I rely heavily on the Epson scan
software (Vuescan is awful and clunky), and I'd be in deep doo-doo if my Epson
printer balked.
Paul
On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Charles
Sent you my guess off-line. ;-)
On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:13 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone remember which movie that's from?
Anyway, this is the Eighth Street regulars watching the East Enders who
showed up to spend a few hours at the local skate park:
Epson printers seem fine (I’m printing to two of them) and both my HP printers
seem fine too. Epson Scan … Never use it, never installed it; always use
VueScan here.
G
On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Why is Epson software always a problem with
Downloading the drivers is simple.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Why is Epson software always a problem with every new OS? That clinches it
for me: No Maverick in my immediate future. I rely heavily on the Epson scan
software (Vuescan is awful
Nice textures and subtle tones.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Another from Lancaster County:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17565344
or
Very nice, Dave!
Is the natural bridge still there? I read a report it had collapsed.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Well done and great fun to watch.
Ditto!
Kenneth Waller
Yes. Just go here and see if they are available for your scanner yet.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/SupportMavericks.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes
G
On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Downloading the drivers is simple.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Paul
I really like what you're doing with lighting these days. At some point I'll
have to do some experimenting myself…
Rick
On Oct 24, 2013, at 16:25 , Bruce Walker wrote:
From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-model Alina Antoniou.
She approached me to get some experience on the other
That site just tells you to get the Epson driver from Apple, and Apple doesn't
have it yet. I'm sure they will soon. I'll just wait. A web search shows
nothing but complaints. No one seems to have the driver at this time.
Paul
On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
Epson Scan is light years better than VueScan. VueScan's adjustments are
kludges that have lack any kind of proportion control. I've used it extensively
and despise it. I know it has a loyal enthusiast following, but I think it's
undeserved.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
Would it were so. Downloading Epson drivers for Macs is never simple. They all
come from Apple these days, and Epson's needs are apparently not a high
priority for our friends in Cupertino.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Downloading the drivers is simple.
It's simple. You don't have to go through apple. Follow the link provided by
Godfrey. Locate your device. It's straightforward from there. It took me all of
about one minute yesterday.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Would it were so.
Thanks for the offer Dave.
I was successfully able to download it yesterday,
I suppose after the rush to get it was over. :-)
My recollection is that sometimes these pre-release
manuals do not look like the published ones that arrive with the camera.
Beta test manuals so to speak...
Regards, Bob
No Eric, it can't be done in a minute. I'm intimately familiar with the Epson
site. Been using it for at least 20 years. When you follow the link that
Godders provided and specify the V500 scanner, Epson says you have to go
through Apple to get the driver. It's not simple, because Apple
On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Would it were so. Downloading Epson drivers for Macs is never simple. They
all come from Apple these days, and Epson's needs are apparently not a high
priority for our friends in Cupertino.
I take it back. What I
Paul,
Why does it always have to be what I use is better than what you use with a
little sneering commentary?
I didn’t say anything against Epson Scan. I just don’t use it or install it, I
use VueScan for scanning and find it has the best scanning algorithms and most
fine-grained control.
Epson provides the drivers to Apple. Apple doesn't write them. They're usually
late.
G
On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Epson has been relying on Apple for drivers for a number of its products for
quite some time now.
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It wasn't a sneering commentary. Just my opinion of Vuescan. It sucks.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
Paul,
Why does it always have to be what I use is better than what you use with a
little sneering commentary?
I didn’t say anything
On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Secondly, I've got a stack-o-primes Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5.
Why do you call it “stack-o-primes”? Because it’s as good as a prime at each
focal length?
Anyway, I have it. Used it to shoot a very lively candidate forum a
It has been called that by many. In fact, there is a Flickr Group
which is devoted to just this lens. The group is named SMC Pentax-A
35-105mm f3.5 Zoom: The Stack of Primes.
They have 54 images in their pool:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2109431@N20/pool/
I've noticed that is is an effective
My opinion of your opinion is that it sucks, and is ill-informed. Happy now?
G
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It wasn't a sneering commentary. Just my opinion of Vuescan. It sucks.
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
It has been called that by many. In fact, there is a Flickr Group
which is devoted to just this lens. The group is named SMC Pentax-A
35-105mm f3.5 Zoom: The Stack of Primes.
They have 54 images in their pool:
Paul - have you tried vuescan lately? Years ago I would have agreed
with you, but it has improved a lot.
I'm using it to drive my Canon FS4000 slide scanner. It is much
better than the Canon software.
gs
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On Fri, Oct
The link as provided previously did not work. This should.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Secondly, I've got a stack-o-primes Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5.
Why do you call it “stack-o-primes”? Because it’s as good as a prime at each
focal length?
Anyway, I
Great shot, Frank!
My guess as to the movie: Three Amigos.
-- Walt
On 10/24/2013 6:13 PM, knarf wrote:
Anyone remember which movie that's from?
Anyway, this is the Eighth Street regulars watching the East Enders who showed
up to spend a few hours at the local skate park:
On 10/24/13 7:13 PM, knarf wrote:
Anyone remember which movie that's from?
Anyway, this is the Eighth Street regulars watching the East Enders who showed
up to spend a few hours at the local skate park:
http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/who-are-those-guys.html?m=1
As I told you in an
HI George,
I tried Vuescan for the third or fourth time about two years ago. I have a
lifetime subscription, so maybe I'll check for an upgrade and try it again.
With the Epson V500, there was little fine control of the various functions.
For example, when trying to set black point movement of
Let me try this again. Yes, you may have seen a paragraph that spoke to
something such as an LX Digital. It was on DPreview, but darned if I can find
it The article was posted to this list, but by whom,..again, I find myself
saying, I don't remember.
You may have better luck searching it out.
At 10:08 AM -0400 10/25/13, Eric Weir wrote:
Downloading the drivers is simple.
Please point me to them. I try to download drivers for my Epson 4990
Photo from Epson's site, and I'm referred to the App Store. Search
there and nothing comes up.
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca wrote:
At 10:08 AM -0400 10/25/13, Eric Weir wrote:
Downloading the drivers is simple.
Please point me to them. I try to download drivers for my Epson 4990 Photo
from Epson's site, and I'm referred to the App Store. Search there
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Pentax Talk: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52389739
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Do it, Rick. Very rewarding and horizon expanding. And very cheap to
get started, with some careful eBay/Amazon shopping. Let me know if
you need a shopping list.
Thank you!
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
I really like what you're doing with lighting
So, now that I've picked the guitar back up, I think it's a good idea to
see what I actually sound like when I try to play and sing. Obviously,
the internal mic on my laptop isn't going to cut the mustard, so I
thought I'd pick the collective, eclectic brain of the PDML for some
advice. What
Like it Rick. Wonder if there are enough tones there for a BW.
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:12:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net
Cc: Jim Womerjameswwo...@gmail.com, Carla Wiltenburg
chwiltenb...@aol.com,
On 10/25/13 3:43 PM, Walt wrote:
So, now that I've picked the guitar back up, I think it's a good idea
to see what I actually sound like when I try to play and sing.
Obviously, the internal mic on my laptop isn't going to cut the
mustard, so I thought I'd pick the collective, eclectic brain of
Very colorful and funny looking. I also like the big red ball.
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Do it, Rick. Very rewarding and horizon expanding. And very cheap to
get started, with some careful eBay/Amazon shopping. Let me know if
you
Walt wrote:
So, now that I've picked the guitar back up, I think it's a good idea to
see what I actually sound like when I try to play and sing. Obviously,
the internal mic on my laptop isn't going to cut the mustard, so I
thought I'd pick the collective, eclectic brain of the PDML for some
Walt - I didn't get the line right - my bad guess was The WIld Ones
(looking at the bikers in th ephoto :-) )
However, when I asked a friend - he said Three Amigos and we both
thought then that it was both Three Amigos and the movie Frank was
thinking of..
Love Three Amigos
ann
On
I love it too, Ann!
My friend Darla and I trade quotes back and forth from that movie every
time we see each other. I need to get in touch with her again. :)
-- Walt
On 10/25/2013 3:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Walt - I didn't get the line right - my bad guess was The WIld Ones
(looking at
On 10/25/2013 3:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Walt wrote:
So, now that I've picked the guitar back up, I think it's a good idea to
see what I actually sound like when I try to play and sing. Obviously,
the internal mic on my laptop isn't going to cut the mustard, so I
thought I'd pick the
Thanks, John!
Jack
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On 10/25/2013 3:09 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/25/13 3:43 PM, Walt wrote:
So, now that I've picked the guitar back up, I think it's a good idea
to see what I actually sound like when I try to play and sing.
Obviously, the internal mic on my laptop isn't going to cut the
mustard, so I thought
Excellent vacation atmosphere, the music works great. Especially liked
the lighthouse part.
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Very nice, Dave!
Is the natural bridge still there? I read a report it had collapsed.
Dan Matyola
Walt wrote:
On 10/25/2013 3:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Walt wrote:
So, now that I've picked the guitar back up, I think it's a good idea to
see what I actually sound like when I try to play and sing. Obviously,
the internal mic on my laptop isn't going to cut the mustard, so I
thought I'd
G'day all
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On 25 Oct 2013, at 21:21, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
Walt - I didn't get the line right - my bad guess was The WIld Ones
(looking at the bikers in th ephoto :-) )
However, when I asked a friend - he said Three Amigos and we both thought
then that it was both Three Amigos and the
I'm guessing the slowness (although not unusual of late) probably was
slowed even more due to your dicey situation in your neighborhood..
Im not the dragging mouse this time - I think I got mine in early,
liking the subject.
ann
On 10/25/2013 17:27, Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
Only a few
On 10/25/2013 18:27, Bob W wrote:
On 25 Oct 2013, at 21:21, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
Walt - I didn't get the line right - my bad guess was The WIld Ones
(looking at the bikers in th ephoto :-) )
However, when I asked a friend - he said Three Amigos and we both thought
then
This is a snap that's been on my phone for a few weeks:
http://www.web-options.com/BigH.jpg
Kind of a companion piece to this one that I posted at the weekend:
http://www.web-options.com/MissNancyBlair/content/DSCF0085_large.html
Hope you enjoy it.
B
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I have the same one as Igor (Neewer CN-160). So far, I'm quite pleased
with its performance; it throws lots of light at full power.
The foot isn't any worse than that of most speedlights on the market.
I haven't had any trouble with mounting it to the hot shoe or my
bracket.
Yonnie
On Thu, Oct
Ditto. Great bang for the buck. Comes with colour temp. correction
gels too; bonus!
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Yolanda Rowe ypr...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the same one as Igor (Neewer CN-160). So far, I'm quite pleased
with its performance; it throws lots of light at full power.
The
Thanks, Attila! :)
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Very colorful and funny looking. I also like the big red ball.
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Do it, Rick. Very rewarding and horizon
on 2013-10-25 12:17 Paul Stenquist wrote
With the Epson V500, there was little fine control of the various functions.
For example, when trying to set black point movement of the control would
provide almost no discernible difference, but when the control was pushed to a
certain point, the
The second one I =really= like--nice composition, lots of color, and a couple
of different ironic twists.
The first one doesn't do much for me.
Cheers,
Rick
On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Bob W wrote:
This is a snap that's been on my phone for a few weeks:
http://www.web-options.com/BigH.jpg
Thanks, Don! Tried BW, and didn't like it. To me, the small bits of green
between the bricks and at the bottom of the woodpile add a lot.
But then, I'm highly green-o-philic.
Rick
On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
Like it Rick. Wonder if there are enough tones there for a BW.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17565343
or
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17565343-lg.jpg
(K-5, DA 16-45)
Comments?
Rick
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Touché!
Cheers,
frank
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
You just keep thinkin', Ann. That's what you're good at.
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Those wooden dandy horse or bone shaker type bikes are popular for little
kids around these parts. Not cheap but popular.
They sure become adept on them!
Thanks for the comment to both you and Jack. And thanks to all who looked.
Cheers,
frank
Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
Well caught,
Cool pix.
Still not buying the lens...
;-)
Cheers,
frank
Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Shallow DOF images taken with the Spiratone 85mm f1.8 (wide open) that
I've got listed on FSF:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/10464945975/
Thanks, Don!
See them often here. I think they ought to make them in adult sizes.
:-)
Cheers,
frank
Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
Very cute nice low perspective. Not sure I've seen wooden trainer
before.
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:11:25
Thanks, Don!
Ann and I have in fact had a couple of photo walks before. One in Toronto and
one in NYC.
They were fun. Interesting, I think we chose completely different subjects.
Hope to be able to do it again.
Cheers,
frank
Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh yeah now you're
Oh yeah, there was GFM, too!
cheers,
frank
Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh yeah now you're clickin. Great tableau.
I'd love to see results from a photo walk with you and Annsan.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:17:54 -0400
From:
Wow! That is an awesome shot, Don!
Cheers,
frank
Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
Haven't shared much lately so here is something for baseball fans.
Although even our out of country soccer fans might like it. I have no
interest in the outcome of this year's contest since it has no teams
Nice shot. They let you take the k-01 in to the game?
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:49 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow! That is an awesome shot, Don!
Cheers,
frank
Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
Haven't shared much lately so here is something for baseball fans.
Although
Excellent.
Both of them.
Cheers,
frank
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
This is a snap that's been on my phone for a few weeks:
http://www.web-options.com/BigH.jpg
Kind of a companion piece to this one that I posted at the weekend:
That's OK. It was sold.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Cool pix.
Still not buying the lens...
;-)
Cheers,
frank
Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Shallow DOF images taken with the Spiratone 85mm f1.8 (wide open) that
I've got listed on FSF:
Good, glad someone will enjoy and use it!
Cheers,
frank
Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
That's OK. It was sold.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com
wrote:
Cool pix.
Still not buying the lens...
;-)
Cheers,
frank
Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:39 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Those wooden dandy horse or bone shaker type bikes are popular for little
kids around these parts. Not cheap but popular.
They're popular here as well. Must be a great way to start riding as they can
get used to the balance
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