The Picture of Dorian 13% Gray
Light Used to be Better in August
Shoot the Piano Player with the Best Portrait Lens
sorry, I'm procrastinating again.
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
The Picture of Dorian 13% Gray
Light Used to be Better in August
Shoot the Piano Player with the Best Portrait Lens
Heart of Maximum Black
Close Encounters of Zone III
Memoirs of a Super-Multi-Coated Man
procrastinating,
chris
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aimcompute wrote:
A thought: Why can't camera and film manufacturer's just consistently tell
the truth?
Because we can't handle the truth.
--Mike
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Interesting. I too have found that foliage, trees, mountains, which are
all typical of an Ansel Adams photograph, are very close to 18%. On the
other hand, typical caucasian skin is at about zone VI or 13%. And since
most cameras are used to take snapshots of the rug rats, a meter
calibrated to
Most cameras?? Not mine.
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Interesting. I too have found that foliage, trees,
mountains, which are
all typical of an Ansel Adams photograph, are very
close to 18%. On the
other hand, typical caucasian skin is at about zone
VI or 13%. And since
I am the one who argues that this 13% thing is bull. Take
your incident meter and meter a gray card in reflected mode.
Then take an incident mode reading. The readings will be the
same. If the meter was calibrated for 13% gray the readings
would be different because that dome is definitely 18%
Hi,
this assumes that most camera users are white, which is a highly
dubious assumption given that most people are not white. It would be
commercial suicide to base meter calibration on any particular skin
colour. If it's true that white skin is about 13% then I'd suggest
it's probably
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Mark Roberts wrote:
Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bob Walkden wrote:
I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight
suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No appreciable
difference.
And thus was
Chris Brogden brough forth:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bob Walkden wrote:
I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight
suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No appreciable
difference.
And thus was Bob henceforth known as The Grey Man.
Soylent Grey
Hi,
that's ok - I'm colourblind anyway.
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Bob
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Friday, July 13, 2001, 8:22:29 PM, you wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bob Walkden wrote:
I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight
suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No
Tom R. exploded:
I am the one who argues that this 13% thing is bull.
Tom,
Actually it's not. The ANSI standard is around 12% and a lot of
manufacturers use 13%. Of course, as with film speed, the manufacturers do
what they want to do, so many of them do calibrate to 18%. I wouldn't be
Well, Mike, even if the meters are setup for a 13% gray, and
I still doubt that because as I have said my Sekonic 308
gives the same reading with light reflected for an 18% gray
card as it does in incident mode, all you have to do is
reduce your ASA by that amount and use 18% because all that
is
A couple of weeks ago there was some discussion here about
how the camera manufactures are calibrating their meter to
13% rather than 18%. Someone commented that Kodak is now
suggesting that you open up a 1/3 to 1/2 when using a gray
card to set exposure.
WHAT
18% gray was chosen because
Repeated study under controlled conditions has demonstrated that the correct
average reflactance is 13%.
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Subject: 18% Gray (again
Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
A couple of weeks ago there was some discussion here about
how the camera manufactures are calibrating their meter to
13% rather than 18%. Someone commented that Kodak is now
suggesting that you open up a 1/3 to 1/2 when using a gray
card to set exposure.
WHAT
This is discussed in the latest issue of Shutterbug. There is no international
standard but there *is* an ANSI standard. And it's 13%.
The writer in Shutterbug contacted Kodak to ask why there gray cards are 18%even
though the ANSI standard (to which cameras and handheld light meters are
is.
Cheers,
Mike
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Subject: Re: 18% Gray (again)
Sorry, I didn't know what I was talking about here. See Ah
ha (was 18% gray) for the answer.
--Tom
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