Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow! that was interesting to read, Stan. Thanks for sharing that. Cheers, Christine On Oct 27, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Wed Oct 26 19:52:19 EDT 2011 Cotty wrote: On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated,

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-10-26 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. [...] I will be able to show the baseball pix I took this summer along with a few other events in my on-line ad, but I don't have a web site so I'm not going to look terribly professional

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's a fine portfolio, Bruce. What kind of reaction have you been getting from prospective customers? Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-10-26 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread P. J. Alling
So you specialize in woman's portraits On 10/27/2011 10:50 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-10-26 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. [...] I will be able to show the baseball pix I took this summer along with a few other events in

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread mike wilson
On 26/10/2011 21:46, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. I can't answer your specific questions for numerous reasons. But my first thought was equipment. Duplicate body and lenses, plus a hefty computer/storage system seem to be de

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Oct 26 19:52:19 EDT 2011 Cotty wrote: On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks in advance for your input!! .. When I started out, I pitched myself where I thought companies could afford - which didn't seem too cheap, nor too expensive. I was wrong. The

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Stan Halpin
On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Wed Oct 26 19:52:19 EDT 2011 Cotty wrote: On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks in advance for your input!! .. When I started out, I pitched myself where I thought companies could afford - which

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Stan Halpin
On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Unfortunately, parents of little league ballplayers don't think of it in the same financial terms as a wedding. You can't price this kind of photography based on what you might think your time is worth. You have to base it on what the

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Unfortunately, parents of little league ballplayers don't think of it in the same financial terms as a wedding. You can't price this kind of photography based on what you might think

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Dan! It's not a formal portfolio though. I just selected all the portrait and related shots from my 500px stream and made this to test the portfolio feature of 500px. I'm evaluating whether I'm going to fork over actual money to them for so-called Awesome features. I haven't been

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Seems to be a niche I really enjoy. I've also done male portraits, pet portraits and lots of other stuff like classic car detail, flower macros (well, who hasn't?), etc. But I seem to be drawn to the unique challenges in photographing people, in particular women, so I keep returning to it.

A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread frank theriault
I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. Here's the idea: You've got a kid in Little League baseball, minor league hockey, high school football, soccer, whatever. For a fee, I show up with cameras in hand and take hundreds of game photos, concentrating on your kid. It

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Larry Colen
On 10/26/2011 12:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. Here's the idea: You've got a kid in Little League baseball, minor league hockey, high school football, soccer, whatever. For a fee, I show up with cameras in hand and take

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
i sometimes do jobs like that, or at least I used to -- not much time these days. I charged $100 up front but applied all of that toward the purchase of pictures. In other words, if the customer bought $100 worth of prints, then there was no session fee. I charged $25 for 12 x 18 prints, $15

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Sam L
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. Here's the idea: You've got a kid in Little League baseball, minor league hockey, high school football, soccer, whatever.  For a fee, I show up

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread P. J. Alling
I have no idea what you should charge for something like that. However if prints are included in the fee you have to make sure that you cover that cost. The biggest problem I see is marketing. You have to let people know that you're available for that kind of work. The second biggest

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a n00b so I can't comment on the pricing question. I'm a noob (at this) as well, that's why I'm asking the list to share their expertise with me. ;-) But I do have this to ask:  why should a person choose your

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: snip I'd guess that $200 to shoot a game would be a bit closer to beer money than making a living.  You could do something like $200 for the first kid, $100 for the second, $75 for each up to 5 and $1000 for the team. Given

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: i sometimes do jobs like that, or at least I used to -- not much time these days. I charged $100 up front but applied all of that toward the purchase of pictures. In other words, if the customer bought $100 worth

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
BTW, a combination of a low fee and modest print prices seemed to be the only method that really produced results when it came to shooting kids. There's a lot of competition out there. And I found that the idea that the first $100 worth of prints were already paid for resulted in a larger total

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread George Sinos
Hi Frank - I can't give you any advice on price, but there is one thing you might check out. Some leagues have a contract with a photographer that will grant exclusive rights to any photography sales. You'll never see the guy until he hears that you're selling pictures, then he'll pop up from

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks in advance for your input!! I think that the hardest work you will do - and that will demand the most talent - is selling yourself and your abilities to provide what most people think they can do themselves. My advice would be to

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:46:36 -0400 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I won't tell anyone what I'm thinking my fee range is just yet, so as not to skew answers. I'll be most interested to hear what you have to say. Front $75-100 an hour for shooting and doing the basic

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Larry Colen
Frank, I just had one of my crazy ideas. I was thinking about the fact that you are competing against the parents that are there anyways, have DSLRs and take the photos for free. A lot of these parents have never owned a serious camera before, and I bet most of them have never even been

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Frank, I just had one of my crazy ideas. I was thinking about the fact that you are competing against the parents that are there anyways, have DSLRs and take the photos for free.  A lot of these parents have never owned a

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread David J Brooks
Frank. The big many is or at least was hockey tournaments. There the big boys show up and shoot all weekend long and sell on site and make a small fortune. Now, that's just the tournament, during regular games, my hockey Dad associates tell me there usually is no one shooting. Try that venue may

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Jack Davis
, I'll be anxious to hear what you are considering as a fee Best, Jack. - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: A Question About a New Business I'm

RE: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. Here's the idea: You've got a kid in Little League baseball, minor league hockey, high school football, soccer, whatever. For a fee, I show up with cameras in hand and take hundreds of game photos,

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Sam L On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. Here's the idea: You've got a kid in Little League baseball, minor league hockey, high school football, soccer, whatever. ?For a fee, I

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:00 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Sam L On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. Here's the idea: You've got a kid in Little League baseball, minor league