On Saturday, Nov 22, 2003, at 16:01 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele
wrote:
Ryan, nice to know they are letting you in...
I'm wondering if they will be seeing tons of Pentaxes in this contest!
That's up to all of us, Ann!
--jc
> SMITHSONIAN
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Smithsonian contest (was: Defining "previously Published" for a
appreciate your interest.
Sincerely,
Karla A. Henry
Reader Services
SMITHSONIAN
- Original Message -
From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: Smithsonian contest (was: Defining &q
Frank,
I believe that photonet is one of those places that state that anything
posted there is copyright by them and the poster. Other folks don't like
to use photos that may be copyrighted by more than one person.
I read stuff on photonet fairly often. I'm going to do a real seach of
their sit
Ryan Lee wrote:
> I haven't been paying too close attention to this thread, and I may have
> missed it if it's been answered already- is this contest open to non-US
> residents? e.g. Australia..
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
The rules: (says nothing about geographical limitations)
http://www.smithsonianmag
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
> Cotty wrote:
>
> > On 18/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
> >
> > >I would love to see a contact sheet of both your photos of me and
> > >mine of yours how bout it?
> >
> > Meet behind the bicycle sheds at 4pm.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Cotty
> >
> Um that was meant for
Cotty wrote:
> On 18/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
> >I would love to see a contact sheet of both your photos of me and
> >mine of yours
> >how bout it?
>
> Meet behind the bicycle sheds at 4pm.
>
> Cheers,
> Cotty
>
Um that was meant for Shel -
and meant to be sent privately -- ugh
On 18/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>I would love to see a contact sheet of both your photos of me and
>mine of yours
>how bout it?
Meet behind the bicycle sheds at 4pm.
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 17/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>I know it's a rare occurance, but I actually agree with Cotty on this one.
>
>
>I mean, there's published, and there's ~published~, if ya know what I mean.
>
>Geez, if you take their rules to letter, then I guess anyone who has posted
>pics on Photo.ne
I think you missed on this one Frank. "No previously published photos", not "no
previously published photographers".
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frank theriault wrote:
What do they call that? Reductio ad absurdum? (My latin's real bad -
come to think of it, so's my English). Seems to me that the very
example of "pu
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> It would embarrass you ... I'll say no more on a public forum.
>
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > > Yep ...
> > >
> > > Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> > >
> > > > say, didnt I take some of YOU on that roll of film
> > > >
> >
> > Ahem... it seems only
frank theriault wrote:ght.
> (snip, snip, snip)
>
> I continue to think that the Smithsonian really shouldn't care if someone,
> especially the lovely Ann, "published" a submitted photo on PUG. Now, if
> she had it published in National Geographic, that might be different. I
> guess that what I'
Nah, I just made up all that stuff about going to high school.
-frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oh, did they have high schools back then?
Bill
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Rob Studdert wrote:
missing dog taped to a telegraph pole.
Telegraph pole?!?!? Don't ya'll use telephones down there?!?!
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> There are lots of other examples of "publishing" that shouldn't keep
someone
> out of the contest: family newsletters that some put in Christmas cards,
> monthly church newsletters, that sort of thing. And, let's face it, there
> are some things that surely "go away" with the passage of time.
essimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Defining "previously Published" for a photo contest
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:30:02 -0500
What do they call
What do they call that? Reductio ad absurdum? (My latin's real bad - come
to think of it, so's my English). Seems to me that the very example of
"published" that you provide, Rob, proves the point that a literal
definition of the word simply couldn't apply for the Smithsonian's purposes.
Sur
I know it's a rare occurance, but I actually agree with Cotty on this one.
I mean, there's published, and there's ~published~, if ya know what I mean.
Geez, if you take their rules to letter, then I guess anyone who has posted
pics on Photo.net and such on-line galleries has published, too.
On 17 Nov 2003 at 12:34, graywolf wrote:
> Ann, you should check with them about how they define publication. It could
> differ a lot form generally held ideas about that.
>
> In my opinion both the PUG and your Website would be considered publication as
> they are widely available to the public,
graywolf wrote:
> Ann, you should check with them about how they define publication. It could
> differ a lot form generally held ideas about that.
>
> In my opinion both the PUG and your Website would be considered publication as
> they are widely available to the public, but the Smithsonian may n
Hi,
Sunday, November 16, 2003, 10:51:52 PM, you wrote:
> If it's publicly visible then it's published, like a written note about a
> missing dog taped to a telegraph pole.
or pigeon:
http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/platformforart/images/shrigley/5.jpg
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Cheers,
Bob
Yep ...
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> say, didnt I take some of YOU on that roll of film
>
Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I sell a lot of photographs to magazines. I have never had a problem
> with "previously published" unless the photo appeared on a printed page
> in another mag. No one that I know worries about photos that have
> appeared in obscure places on the net. Thus, PUG photos are n
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hi Ann ...
>
> Did you get info from the web site or from the magazine. I checked both, and
> don't recall them saying not to contact them ... except after you've submitted
> the pics. IOW, it's ok to get clarification and information about making the
> submission, but af
rt"
Subject: Re: Defining "previously Published" for a photo contest
On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:
The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it
to
our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not
published.
Sorry there are ple
I sell a lot of photographs to magazines. I have never had a problem
with "previously published" unless the photo appeared on a printed page
in another mag. No one that I know worries about photos that have
appeared in obscure places on the net. Thus, PUG photos are not
published, at least not
- Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele"
> Subject: Defining "previously Published" for a photo contest
>
>
>> Smithsonian contest coming up -
>> One of the rules is " No previously published
>> works". Is a photo in
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert"
Subject: Re: Defining "previously Published" for a photo contest
> On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
> > The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it to
> > our neighbo
On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it to
> our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not published.
Sorry there are plenty of instances where work is published without the author
attaining payment for t
On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 05:17 PM, Cotty wrote:
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Go for it Ann. Consider that by 'published' they meant in print. Feign
ignorance if questioned.
.02 and good luck :-)
Exactly. Does anyone really think they're going to check entries
against the PUG? And does anyone think that great phot
ously Published" for a photo contest
Smithsonian contest coming up -
One of the rules is " No previously published
works". Is a photo in the PUG
considered published? Is a photo on my homepage
previously published?
The PUG is considered a "publication", AFAIK. I recal
No and no. Previously published is a photo in a consumer magazine or
other format that was on sale to the public. Unless someone is paying
to see it, it is not published.
Paul
On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Smithsonian contest coming up -
One of the rules is "
Hi,
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
> Smithsonian contest coming up -
> One of the rules is " No previously published
> works". Is a photo in the PUG
> considered published? Is a photo on my homepage
> previously published?
If you show it to your friends, it's published as far as British law is
conce
Hi Ann ...
I have a few pics for that contest, and was concerned about them having
been put up on my web site and that one was in the PUG. I sent an email
asking for clarification and received TWO replies, one saying that if
it's on the web, it's considered published, the other taking a different
>Smithsonian contest coming up -
One of the rules is " No previously published
works". Is a photo in the PUG
considered published? Is a photo on my homepage
previously published?
>One of the other "rules" is one is not allowed to
contact them about the
contest submissions and they won't be res
- Original Message -
From: "Ann Sanfedele"
Subject: Defining "previously Published" for a photo contest
> Smithsonian contest coming up -
> One of the rules is " No previously published
> works". Is a photo in the PUG
> considered publishe
Smithsonian contest coming up -
One of the rules is " No previously published
works". Is a photo in the PUG
considered published? Is a photo on my homepage
previously published?
One of the other "rules" is one is not allowed to
contact them about the
contest submissions and they won't be respo
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