For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Thibouille
Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, pleaaasse -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 16, 2006, at 14:52, Thibouille wrote: > Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, > pleaaasse > Here's $30, kid. Get yourself some new memory cards. :-) Seriously - 2-gig high-speed SD cards are so cheap that it's hardly a big deal to get enough memory t

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 09:52:29PM +0200, Thibouille wrote: > Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, pleaaasse > It's going to be SD. Them's the breaks. Look on the bright side, though - the K10D is going to be significantly cheaper than we first thought, so eve

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please tell me it does accept CF... Why should it? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not a chance that it will be a CF camera. SD is the new standard and everything Pentax has shipped since the original *ist D is SD. With 150x SD cards with 2G capacity running $37 now, it's really no big deal. And 4-8G SDHC cards are coming up Real Soon Now. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille wrote: >Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, pleaaasse > The K1D is a purely hypothetical camera at this point. The upcoming 10-megapixel camera (due this fall) is the K10D. It uses SD cards :( If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller tha

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Thibouille
Just that the K10D will be out of budget anyway and I wouldn't want to buy the camera and a small 1GB SD card at first ('cos price)... I'm used to my 4GB microdrive... And cards are heck more expensive here in Europe (as cameras BTW). So 1000 euros to replace my D (it has only 1 year 3 months) wil

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller than 2 Gig cards > for this camera, because of the 10-megapixels and... other factors. Other magnificent, wonderful factors. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pd

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Other magnificent, wonderful factors. Oh Oh Oh, I think I've got it. The camera only shoots KEEPERS ! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > On Aug

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Factors that are so outstanding, so unique, so very innovative, and so useful, that you'll cry with joy and happiness. And you will be happy to purchase the new SDHC cards ... and perhaps ultimately become a collector of outdated CF cards and microdrives ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From:

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
On 8/17/06, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 16, 2006, at 14:52, Thibouille wrote: > > > Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, > > pleaaasse > > > > Here's $30, kid. Get yourself some new memory cards. :-) > > Seriously - 2-gig high-speed SD ca

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: >On 8/17/06, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Aug 16, 2006, at 14:52, Thibouille wrote: >> >> > Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, >> > pleaaasse >> >> Here's $30, kid. Get yourself some new memory cards. :-) >> >> Seriousl

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Jim Apilado
That's what digital imaging is all about - spending money!!! Jim A. > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:33:48 +0800 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: For

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds
: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D Date: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:09 pm Size: 976 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List David Savage wrote: >On 8/17/06, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Aug 16, 2006, at 14:5

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/08/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/17/06, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2006, at 14:52, Thibouille wrote: > > > > > Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, > > > pleaaasse > > > > > > > Here's $30, kid. Get yourse

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 16, 2006, at 20:33, David Savage wrote: > > That's not the point Charles. > > If you bought your CF cards before the prices plummeted you've > suddenly got some fully functioning cards that can't be used in the > new camera. > Sure - but they still work in the camera for which you bought '

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jim Apilado" Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > That's what digital imaging is all about - spending money!!! Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. My first 1 gig CF card was bought for my old Ca

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I like 'em. They're small, light, easy to carry, contribute to making the camera smaller and lighter, they're inexpensive, and they're fun to launch across the room. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Aaron Reynolds > I like SD cards, largely because I can snap them into my Palm and e-mail th

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
You were one of those that I was thinking about. I almost fell over when you told me. :-) Dave On 8/17/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only paid AU$700 for my 2GB CF -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
LOL CF cards are so big & heavy :-) I've only managed to shoot mt CF cards a few inches across the desk. Dave On 8/17/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like 'em. They're small, light, easy to carry, contribute to making the > camera smaller and lighter, they're inexpensive, and

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
That's what I said I'll be doing. Don't really have any other options. Dave On 8/17/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The simple solution is to continue to use your old camera with your old cards -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Bengt Falke
. and there is a slot for them in my portable computer... ;o) Shel Belinkoff wrote / skrev: > I like 'em. They're small, light, easy to carry, contribute to making the > camera smaller and lighter, they're inexpensive, and they're fun to launch > across the room. > > Shel > > > > >> [Orig

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Thibouille
> > Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. Yeah but you don't need any PC/Mac nor do you need a any software like Adobe and such. If you lab was good then that was it. > William Robb -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,K

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 03:00:51 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Apilado

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Aaron Reynolds wrote: >The simple solution is to continue to use your old camera with your old cards >-- you're not being forced to buy a new body, nor are you being forced to >discard your old one. Now that's just silly, especially considering what you know about the capabilities of the K10D.

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Mark Roberts wrote: > It's also a point that some people just don't like SD cards. I hate SD > cards because they're too small. I don't *want* cards smaller than CF. Me, either. Only something as worthless as a stick of gum should be that easy to lose. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML P

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > >> Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. > > Yeah but you don't need any PC/Mac nor do you need a any software like > Adobe a

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 7:16 AM -0600 8/17/06, William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Thibouille" >Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > >> > >>> Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. >> >> Yeah but y

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
TECTED]> Subj: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D Date: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:30 am Size: 530 bytes To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" - Original Message ----- From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > >>

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:35:26 +0200 schreef Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At 7:16 AM -0600 8/17/06, William Robb wrote: >> You wouldn't believe how much bitching and complaining about photolabs >> we used to get on list before the istD hit the market. > > A decent lab is hard to find. I w

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Well, anyone who has useless CF cards can send them to me. Only my camera, my PDA, and my laptop use the things but I could probably put one or two 0.5 to 1.0gb cards to use. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
So, you are a reactionary Luddite just like me? Next year the manufactures will be going to the mini-SD cards. I too feel that there is a point when things become too small for normal handling, as well as too large. I do have a SD card in the PDA, but I choose to leave it in and treat it as a h

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
t; "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Apilado" > Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > >> That's what digital imaging is all about - spending mon

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
That is about what I live off of per month . -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Digital Image Studio wrote: > > I only paid AU$700 for my 2GB CF > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
;==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Thibouille" > Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > >>> Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. >> Yeah but you don't

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Then you have never used even a merely decent lab. But I will agree it was getting harder to find a decent lab outside of very large cities in the decade or so prior to the event of digital. The mini-labs were putting them out of business. You have to realize that mass marketers do not run thei

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: > So, you are a reactionary Luddite just like me? Next year the > manufactures will be going to the mini-SD cards. I too feel that there > is a point when things become too small for normal handling, as well as > too large. I do have a SD card in the PDA, but I choose to leave it

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:57 AM, graywolf wrote: > I have not checked but I suspect that many of those high volume > quality people labs are still doing business as most pro photographers > still make their money by shooting, not by sitting in front of a > computer In Toronto and the surrounding a

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Aaron Reynolds wrote: >On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:57 AM, graywolf wrote: > >> I have not checked but I suspect that many of those high volume >> quality people labs are still doing business as most pro photographers >> still make their money by shooting, not by sitting in front of a >> computer > >In

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 12:04 PM -0400 8/17/06, graywolf wrote: >Then you have never used even a merely decent lab. You are probably right. > >But I will agree it was getting harder to find a decent lab outside of >very large cities in the decade or so prior to the event of digital. The >mini-labs were putting them o

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
In the small town I am in there is a Wal-Mart, an Eckarts, and a Walgreens. You can get big inkjet prints done at a couple of print shops. Photographically speaking it is a desert, despite the local university having a photography program. Digital is a god send for anything you can not wait 2 w

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread David Mann
On Aug 18, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote: > It still amazes me that I can do a better print with my > computer/scanner/inkjet than any lab I've ever used. It doesn't surprise me at all, but I am surprised that you have the patience to do all that scanning :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Dis

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread keith_w
Anthony Farr wrote: > My Jobo Autolab just got put into storage for 3-4 months while our house is > completely stripped and renovated. When we return I'll have a very nice > indoor :-) workspace which will include my darkroom. Uhhh, did you leave off he 0's? Didn't you mean 30-40 months? Only

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Anthony Farr
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > keith_w > Sent: Friday, 18 August 2006 6:32 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > Anthony Farr wrote: > > My Jobo Autolab

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Paul Ewins
Ewins Melbourne, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:08 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: For those "in the know" about K10D The house is expected to be handed back

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Jens Bladt
Sendt: 18. august 2006 14:50 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: RE: For those "in the know" about K10D Our extensions should be finished about then too and, yes, there will be an improved darkroom/laundry. I've only got a CPP though. We also went with an architect which h

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread DagT
gT > Fra: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dato: 2006/08/18 Fri PM 03:18:21 CEST > Til: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Emne: RE: For those "in the know" about K10D > > "We also went with an architect which has been the best move ever"

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread keith_w
Anthony Farr wrote: > The house is expected to be handed back to us about 12th December, but in > any case after 18th Jan the penalty clauses are invoked and the builder > would have to pay us $300 per week past that date. > > One of the joys of having an architect broker the contract :-) > > Re

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Anthony Farr
t any further discussion. Regards, Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT > Sent: Friday, 18 August 2006 11:38 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: RE: For those "in the know" about K10D >

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread graywolf
t;Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Dato: 2006/08/18 Fri PM 03:18:21 CEST >> Til: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Emne: RE: For those "in the know" about K10D >> >> "We also went with an architect which has been the bes

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Jens Bladt
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Mark Roberts Sendt: 17. august 2006 00:01 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D Thibouille wrote: >Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, pleaaasse T

RE: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
VBG ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Mark Roberts > The K1D is a purely hypothetical camera at this point. > The upcoming 10-megapixel camera (due this fall) is the K10D. It uses > SD cards :( > If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller than 2 Gig cards > for this camera,

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-19 Thread Powell Hargrave
>That is the reason for hiring experts. They usually can save you money >over doing it yourself. And they take all the flack, worth the money in >itself in my opinion. However, some of us are so poor we have to do it >ourselves. The saving grace there is that we also have to do the work >oursel

Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Sadly, not around here. The snapshot mini-labs are holding out in supermarkets and drug store chains. The stand alone ones are dieing where they sit, the custom labs are close behind. graywolf wrote: >Yes, that indeed is the best thing about digital for serious >photographers. Of course ther

Re: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 04:50:49 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D > > Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > >On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:57 AM, graywolf wrote: > &

RE: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
ls or do drudge work ;-) Regards Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike > wilson > Sent: Friday, 18 August 2006 7:33 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Re: For those "in the know" abo

RE: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D

2006-08-18 Thread Bob W
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