What? Darkroom, digital darkroom, what's the difference?
Norm
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Plus, any
> manipulation of the image that appears on the screen has not been done
> via the manipulation of light, such as dodging or burning, but rather
> by manipulating pixels through computer technology.
William Robb wrote:
> For myself, if the picture is created by silver imaging, it is a
> photograph, if it is created by electronic capture, it is an
> image. This is just how I keep things straight in my mind.
And that's pretty much the way I see it, although now many photographs
(in the sense
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From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Images or Photographs
> William Robb wrote:
>
> > For myself, if the picture is created by silver imaging, it
is a
> > photograph, if it is created by electronic capture, it is an
> > image. This
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From: "Norman Baugher"
Subject: Re: Images or Photographs
> What? Darkroom, digital darkroom, what's the difference?
> Norm
Careful folks, its a troll
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The word photograph suggests to me a picture (image!) made via a
light-sensitive process. Film is light sensitive. CCDs are light
sensitive, but are the phosphors on a monitor? They glow because of
non-visible radiation, right? Printer paper certainly isn't light-sensitive
(ignoring the yellow
Seems to me that "images" is a superset of
{photographs, paintings, holograms, stills from video,
photos that have been digitally manipulated, etchings,
drawings, digitally-created pictures, scenes frozen in
slowglass (okay, that doesn't exist yet), and even
Shel Belinkoff quipped:
> And, if I were to use finger paints to make a
> picture, would that be a digital image?
Why yes, yes it would.
-- Glenn
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>Hey, what's all this talk about images? For more than a century the
>pictures we've taken with our cameras have been called photographs, or
>photos. Of late, images have been used to describe or define our
>pictures. When did this happen, and why? Is this some "newspeak"
>resulting from digit
Now, if I used my LX and some Supra 400 to photograph the digital
image that I created with finger paints, I'd have a photo of a digital
image. Then, if I scanned the photograph, or the negative, would I
then have a digital image of a photograph of a digital image?
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
Richard Klein wrote:
>
> The word photograph suggests to me a picture (image!) made via a
> light-sensitive process. Film is light sensitive. CCDs are light
> sensitive, but are the phosphors on a monitor?
Oh, please, asking if the phosphors on the monitor are lights sensitive
is like asking
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> I'd argue just the opposite since a photograph is "painting with
> light" and a screen image is painting with pixels.
Why not change that to 'painting with clumps of silver' vs. 'painting
with pixels'? If there were no light involved, you wouldn't be able to
see the imag
>From Mirriam-Webster...
Main Entry: 1pho.to.graph
Pronunciation: 'fO-t&-"graf
Function: noun
Date: 1839
: a picture or likeness obtained by photography
Main Entry: pho.tog.ra.phy
Pronunciation: f&-'ta-gr&-fE
Function: noun
Date: 1839
: the art or process of producing images on a sensitized surf
>Are you saying that the image files themselves are the reproductions, or
>the actual image when viewed on the screeen is a reproduction? I'd argue
>that the files may be reproductions of photographs, but that the >screen
>image is a photograph in its own right. [Chris Brogden]
The screen im
and just to round it off:
Main Entry: 1im.age
Pronunciation: 'i-mij
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, short for imagene, from Latin
imagin-, imago; perhaps akin to Latin imitari to imitate
Date: 13th century
1 : a reproduction or imitation of the form of a person or thing
In a message dated 9/25/2001 1:45:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Ed Matthew wrote:
> >
> >>Mostly I don't care what term others use -- except for my irrational and
> >>intense dislike of the half-word "pic".
> >>
> > That one I can stand despite a certain ch
Yeah, OK, we're not disagreeing then. The current Ansel Adams prints are
not photographs, but they are reproductions of his original photographs. He
committed them to film way back when, right? But you wouldn't get the
prints from the lab in a coffee table book; you'd get a mass-produced
ink-an
Ed Matthew quipped:
> In a message dated 9/25/2001 1:45:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Ed Matthew wrote:
> > >>Mostly I don't care what term others use -- except for my irrational and
> > >>intense dislike of the half-word "pic".
> > > That one I can stand d
Richard Klein wrote:
>
> Yeah, OK, we're not disagreeing then. The current Ansel Adams prints are
> not photographs, but they are reproductions of his original photographs. He
> committed them to film way back when, right? But you wouldn't get the
> prints from the lab in a coffee table book;
Bingo!
Thanks, Mark. As I was reading through Shel's original post, and subsequent
responses, I was composing a response mentally, that would have been quite
lengthy. But I think you summed up what I was gonna say in one succinct
sentence.
regards,
frank
Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>
> Calling pho
...which reminds me, I'm having Kraft Dinner for supper tonight (ah, the life
of a bachelor!) - that's pasta too, right?
-frank
Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>
> Calling photographs "images" is like calling spaghetti "pasta". It's new
> and trendy, but not inaccurate. The former term is a subset of the
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> Aaron Reynolds wrote:
>
> > ...and, a slide projector emits light.
> > Are projected slides not photographs?
>
> The slides are, but the projection isn't - it's a projected image.
...so, when making a print in an enlarger, the print is made from an
image projected ont
Us too! Wife's working so #1 son and I are having roast beef with Kraft
M&C.
Bill, KG4LOV
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> ...which reminds me, I'm having Kraft Dinner for supper tonight (ah, the
life
> of a bachelor!) - that's pasta too, right?
> -frank
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Calling photog
Frank Theriault wrote:
>
> ...which reminds me, I'm having Kraft Dinner for supper tonight (ah, the life
> of a bachelor!) - that's pasta too, right?
For all you non-Canadians, that's macaroni and cheese that comes in a box.
-Aaron
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Glenn wrote:
> Ed M wrote:
> > Mostly I don't care what term others use -- except for my irrational and
> > intense dislike of the half-word "pic".
> It's when they spell it "pict" that it really bugs me.
> (I can't help but think of early Celts who painted designs
> on their body with woa
t be worth more than pictures taken)
I guess the rest of the world finally caught up...
ppro
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: Pentax List
> Subject: Images
I considered those as photographs.
I am finding here in U.S. they call it pictures.
I feel image is digital terminalogy.
>From: "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I doubt that Ansel Adams had a digital camera, so he probably had some
photo-sensitive (phototropic?) material in his camera and was thus taking
photographs. If they have since digitized his photographs and are printing
them on Iris inkjet printers then they are no doubt gorgeous reproductions
of
Richard Klein wrote:
>
> I doubt that Ansel Adams had a digital camera, so he probably had some
> photo-sensitive (phototropic?) material in his camera and was thus taking
> photographs. If they have since digitized his photographs and are printing
> them on Iris inkjet printers then they are no
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> I don't see how printing from the negative by shining light through it
> onto sensitized paper differs from printing the negative by shining light
> through it, recording the light as data and then laying down the data
> with inks on coated paper.
Or recording the light a
Here in the States we usually drown Cheerios in milk and eat them for
breakfast.
> Saturday 29 September 2001 17:52, Jody wrote:
> BTW Cheerios and chippolatas are miniature saveloys,
> also known as cocktail sausages. As a kid I would
> often go to birthday parties and they would have a
> plate
Jody wrote:
[snip]
> BTW Cheerios and chippolatas are miniature saveloys,
> also known as cocktail sausages. As a kid I would
> often go to birthday parties and they would have a
> plate of cheerios with tomato sauce, and toothpicks to
> pick them up with. Yum!
Thanks for the information, Jody.
I'd always felt a marmite was a small marmoset; wrong again, eh?
RK
Jody wrote:
> Kraft makes marmite in my country. A thick black spread that
> foreigners often loathe.
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> From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:25:09 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > (I can't help but think of early Celts who
> > painted designs on their body with woad before going into battle.)
>
> You mean like "Seven Species of Small Furry Animals Gather
Welcome back, John. How was the trip? Did the MZ-S perform as you'd hoped?
Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA
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From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Image
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: Images or Photographs
>
> Welcome back, John. How was the trip?
Far too short - I could easily have used
Hi,
saveloys are also a British thing. They are usually available in fish
& chip shops.
"The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
saveloy
SYLLABICATION: sav·e·loy
PRONUNCIATION: sv-loi
NOUN: A highly seasoned smoked pork sausage.
ETYMOLOGY: A
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> . . . I no longer have any cameras or lenses so it's a moot point.
I know I've been away for a while; did I miss something?
--
John Francis . . . . . . . . . . (650) 429-4427
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Hi, Shel,
So, you have crayons too? I know you have a pen (a Parker, no?).
:-)
-regards,
frank
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> I think it's time for my crayons and coloring book
>
--
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
Oppenheime
Hi,
Tuesday, September 25, 2001, 9:17:16 PM, you wrote:
>> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>
>> . . . I no longer have any cameras or lenses so it's a moot point.
> I know I've been away for a while; did I miss something?
Not much really. Shel has renounced Satan and all hi
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