MARK!
2012/2/6 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still
On 05/02/2012 09:03, Bob W wrote:
On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
just
fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap
I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth
On 05/02/2012 18:27, Bob W wrote:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
just
fine. It's
I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
Very American. You're pretty much all wrong about toast. Here's the way it's
done in the civilised world.
When the
Oh Bob!
Thanks; you made my day :)
Bulent
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
2012/2/5 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
For the English, caramelized bread, is like snow to the Eskimos.
On 2/5/2012 2:28 PM, Bob W wrote:
I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
Very American.
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
Hardly.
It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
the American publc by the likes of Smuckers),
Amazon has both Duerr's and Elki's orange marmalade.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
Hardly.
It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
impressive.
On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
Hardly.
It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
impressive.
On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Sun,
The hands down best is the kumquat stuff my mum makes.
On 6 February 2012 08:07, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
Hardly.
It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden
Another successful campaign by the Toast Marketing Board!
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:41:04PM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
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On 4 February 2012 04:11, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed to fail after a few years; almost all the ones built to last are
40-50 years old; someone gave me a KitchenAid toaster with a pretty flexible
To drag this thread vaguely back on topic, and to provide at least
a modicum of support for my claims of some knowledge in this area,
I offer this photograph (albeit using the Olympus, not a Pentax:
http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Marmalade.jpg
[As you may surmise, I *do* like marmalade. But I'd
On 2/5/2012 6:44 PM, John Francis wrote:
To drag this thread vaguely back on topic, and to provide at least
a modicum of support for my claims of some knowledge in this area,
I offer this photograph (albeit using the Olympus, not a Pentax:
http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Marmalade.jpg
On 05/02/2012 6:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
Toast is, at least, universally in good taste.
That put it a huge leg up over the K-01
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On 05/02/2012 6:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
Toast is, at least, universally in good taste.
That put
From: Matthew Hunt
I think the main issue for most is that we were hoping for something
perceptibly above a K-5, i.e., a new flagship, or barring that, a
mirror-less body that still had some significant compelling features
above a K-5. That does not seem to have happened.
It is widely rumored
On 4 February 2012 08:00, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
From the looks of the camera I'd say he designs Japanese robots..
Pentax had already designed its own robots more than two years ago.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1255722321.html
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Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
From: Matthew Hunt
I think the main issue for most is that we were hoping for something
perceptibly above a K-5, i.e., a new flagship
On Feb 4, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Bob W wrote:
But for my
personal ergonomics and the kind of photography I'm interested in, the
lack of an eye-level viewfinder makes it unusable.
This sentence sits perfectly in the youtube link that Godfrey posted in
another thread:
On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed
to fail after a few years; almost all the ones built to last are 40-50 years
old; someone gave me a KitchenAid toaster with a pretty flexible functional
design, so i
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
This sentence sits perfectly in the youtube link that Godfrey posted in
another thread:
http://youtu.be/4a-dR2V1-0Y
Perfect observation!
I thought so too. ;-)
Here's a silly thought... Rather than mounting the LCD based
On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
on 2012-02-03 17:02 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote:
Great camera, but I still feel like I'm just millimeters away from throwing it
to the ground when I hold it up to take a photo. Slippery little devil!
You need a decent case.
Sigh. They just don't make cheap pieces of tin crap like they used to.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:24 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
on 2012-02-03 17:02 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com
wrote:
Great camera, but I still feel
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:18 AM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect that it as far as industrial design students go, it could be a
toaster and it would get attention because of who designed it.
My, never has a Pentax generated such varied reactions.
Funny you should
Mark!
2012/2/3 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
Look, Stan, if you're just going to be reasonable I'm going to have to
go over to the Pentax Forums for entertainment.
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Mark!
2012/2/3 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
Look, Stan, if you're just going to be reasonable I'm going to have to
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the main issue for most is that we were hoping for something
perceptibly above a K-5, i.e., a new flagship, or barring that, a
mirror-less body that still had some significant compelling features
above a K-5. That does not
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
My, never has a Pentax generated such varied reactions.
In my books, this is a good thing. We can only hope that at least some
of the reaction and talk is happening in the general population.
K-01 specifics aside, Pentax
On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
Hello Kitty crowd to DSLRs.
The Kx/Kr were designed by camera designers, no amount of marketing hype
could
William Robb wrote:
On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
Hello Kitty crowd to DSLRs.
The Kx/Kr were designed by camera designers, no amount of
On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote:
On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
Hello Kitty crowd to DSLRs.
The
That may be true. However even cameras not aimed at us should be an
interesting option. Hell most pros from the film era didn't use a one
of the professional 35mm cameras, and even the lowliest member of a
systems line could be used as a second body. I don't see this being a
viable backup to a
On 03/02/2012 8:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
Sadly though, take the cutesy signature off the bottom plate and you are
left with a mirrorless camera that mounts nothing but K-mount
Pentax sold a bunch of Kx's in Japan by making them in wild colors and
blister packs. Oly made a bunch of money with their retro designs and
admitted that the new e-PM1 was aimed at women who wanted a
fashionable camera. Given the that ultimate goal of Ricoh-Pentax is
to make money not cameras,
William Robb wrote:
On 03/02/2012 8:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
Sadly though, take the cutesy signature off the bottom plate and you are
left with a mirrorless camera that mounts
On 03/02/2012 9:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Pentax may have made a really good choice here. Or maybe not - time
will tell. But they probably didn't have the financial resources to do
anything else.
Yeah, a viewfinder was beyond them. Really, that's all this thing is
missing.
That and
William Robb wrote:
On 03/02/2012 9:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Pentax may have made a really good choice here. Or maybe not - time
will tell. But they probably didn't have the financial resources to do
anything else.
Yeah, a viewfinder was beyond them. Really, that's all this thing is
on 2012-02-03 07:45 Mark Roberts wrote
There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
i dream of a world with lots of design and no target markets
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On 03/02/2012 10:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
I'm not in the target demographic but it'll be interesting to see if
they like the looks of it. (I could be really cynical here and suggest
that simply having a designer associated with the product is as
important to these prospective buyers as
on 2012-02-03 08:44 Mark Roberts wrote
I don't think that's important to the target audience for the K-01,
which is basically young iPhone owners
i think the goofytronic design is more aimed at the android owners
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steve harley wrote:
on 2012-02-03 07:45 Mark Roberts wrote
There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
i dream of a world with lots of design and no target markets
Yep. That's a dream all right.
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on 2012-02-03 01:40 Bong Manayon wrote
Funny you should mention a toaster, I happen to need one. And yeah, a
toaster is a toaster is a toaster--so long they work there is nothing
really that compels me to any particular brand or model but as long it
is not ridiculously priced because it
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 2/2/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the
K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera
before. At that point, I decided that my initial
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I just don't see the point of the K-01. I mean, how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? With a
DSLR you brace the camera against your hand/head with the other had
holding the
On 03/02/2012 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
This is a camera designed for people who are used to taking photos with cell
phones.
With the DA40, it should be fine. Anything much longer than that,
you'll need to
use a monopod or a tripod.
And they aren't going to like it because it
Bill,
I think you've found the magic bullet for Pentax Marketing!
A Pentax camera that's also a phone and that runs Apps on it's LCD.
'There's nothing like playing Angry Birds on my Pentax,
and you can make calls and take pictures too!'
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM, William
On 2/3/2012 10:57 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote:
I just don't see the point of the K-01. I mean, how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? With a
DSLR you brace the camera against
on
this list.
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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 2/2/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I just watched a small
I think it's OK to be the cynic here. They put the designer's signature
on the product. When was the last time a camera manufacturer did that?
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To have any real significance (as opposed to importance) one must
recognize the name of the designer. If it had said Bertone or
And they aren't going to like it because it doesn't make phone calls,
play MP3's or have all sorts of cool apps.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
This is a camera designed for people who are used to taking photos with cell
phones.
That statement says more about your bias, Larry, than it does about
the camera or its intended audience.
I don't understand that statement, Godfrey. I think Larry's exactly
right and
On 2/3/2012 3:04 PM, Tom C wrote:
I think it's OK to be the cynic here. They put the designer's signature
on the product. When was the last time a camera manufacturer did that?
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To have any real significance (as opposed to importance) one must
recognize the name of the
aimed at a different group of users than most of the people on
this list.
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Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 2/2/12
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
This is a camera designed for people who are used to taking photos with
cell phones.
That statement says more about your bias, Larry, than it does about
the camera or its intended
on 2012-02-03 12:38 Larry Colen wrote
Are the ergonomics not a lot closer to those of a cell phone camera, or a low
end point and shoot?
to me, it doesn't seem that they are; the controls are a little unsubtle, and
we fear they'll lack a refined feel, but the configurable buttons and the
On Feb 3, 2012, at 15:12, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I have never owned a cell phone camera (although I'll buy an iPhone 4S
sometime later this year, because it has a good camera and that nice,
big, sharp LCD to focus and frame with...).
Great camera, but I still feel like I'm just millimeters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:
William Robb wrote:
On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
Hello Kitty crowd to DSLRs.
The Kx/Kr
Quoting William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com:
On 03/02/2012 9:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Pentax may have made a really good choice here. Or maybe not - time
will tell. But they probably didn't have the financial resources to do
anything else.
Yeah, a viewfinder was beyond them.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
On Feb 3, 2012, at 15:12, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I have never owned a cell phone camera (although I'll buy an iPhone 4S
sometime later this year, because it has a good camera and that nice,
big, sharp LCD to focus and
On 2012-02-03 16:57, Charles Robinson wrote:
The best thing about the K-01, to me, is that it's so uninteresting that
I can delete PDML traffic wholesale and actually read the little that
remains.
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On 2012-02-03 16:57, Charles Robinson wrote:
The best thing about the K-01, to me, is that it's so uninteresting that
I can delete PDML traffic
On 2012-02-03 22:48, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
It really rubs me the wrong way when someone so obviously goes out of their way
to included in Mark's 2012 quotation list.
It was more in the vein of a sigh of relief. I haven't been able to
read even 20% of the PDML traffic for quite a
On 03/02/2012 3:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 2/3/2012 3:04 PM, Tom C wrote:
I think it's OK to be the cynic here. They put the designer's signature
on the product. When was the last time a camera manufacturer did that?
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To have any real significance (as opposed to importance)
On 01/02/2012 17:35, Darren Addy wrote:
This is clearly NOT the K-01. It has a viewfinder/prism.
Not a Mark! but as gut-wrenching a pair of sentences as you could
possibly read - related to photography, anyway.
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On 1/2/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
Or, if you're a cheap bastard (I'm looking at you Cotty):
http://lifehacker.com/5780891/make-a-diy-dslr-video-viewfinder-on-the-cheap
Well, I'd save even more money by not using hair ties.
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This could bring me back to the Pentax fold...
On 02/02/2012, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:
...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
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It solves my problem. I was looking for an APS-C carry around with a decent
lens.
I like the look gf the Sony NEX-7 but the standard zoom isn't brilliant and the
Zeiss 24mm lens would be pricey. The Fujis looked OK but there are some
concerns about the user interface for the X100.
Putting a
Bob W wrote:
...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
I'm definitely what you would call function-oriented: If a camera
works well I don't concern myself with its looks much. But it does
occur to me that it has to be frustrating to hire a big-name designer
(and presumably pay his big-name fees)
On 2012-02-02 7:10, Mark Roberts wrote:
Have you read The Design of Everyday Things by Donald Norman? A
classic in the field and it says pretty much what you just did.
http://www.powells.com/biblio/7-9780385267748-4
Excellent book, and the place where I discovered that affordance is a
word,
On 02/02/2012 1:20 AM, Bob W wrote:
imo it's very rare that a so-called designer ever produces anything other
than hideous crap. There are few exceptions - the Porsche-designed Contax
RTS being what. What they do is not design, but styling. Since form follows
function it requires a real
It's a slightly modified K-5 without a viewfinder. So now we know
what a good optical viewfinder w/reflex mirror assembly costs, about
$700.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
Who cares if the K01 looks like
Hey, Mr. alling, when did you go all ee cummings on us? (;-)
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, p. j. alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a slightly modified K-5 without a viewfinder. So now we know
what a good optical viewfinder w/reflex mirror assembly costs, about
$700.
On Wed,
and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President too...
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:53 PM, William Robb
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On 01/02/2012 6:43 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
including each
Well, I used to write poetry in that style mostly because it was annoying.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, Mr. alling, when did you go all ee cummings on us? (;-)
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, p. j. alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
wrote:
At your lowest point at the beginning of WWII, we sent you Spam.
That's hard to beat.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:02 AM, p. j. alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I used to write poetry in that style mostly because it was annoying.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steven Desjardins
On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President too...
Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).
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On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
This could bring me back to the Pentax fold...
Damn, you're easy.
On 02/02/2012, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:
...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
Not if we'd won instead of drawn you wouldn't but heck, you get what
the government you deserve. God what did we do?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
and look at what you're missing, you could have
On 02/02/2012 9:42 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
Not if we'd won instead of drawn you wouldn't but heck, you get what
the government you deserve. God what did we do?
I'm wondering what we did? Canada has always tried to do the right
thing, we don't pick on smaller countries, we help out where we
Having now seen the specs body layout I doubt I'll be returning...
My next camera will most likely be the D800 whenever they bring that out.
DS
On 2 February 2012 23:33, p. j. alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
This
On 2 February 2012 23:51, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/02/2012 9:42 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
Not if we'd won instead of drawn you wouldn't but heck, you get what
the government you deserve. God what did we do?
I'm wondering what we did? Canada has always tried to do
On 02/02/2012 9:53 AM, David Savage wrote:
It's payback for you picking on all the 'murricas on the PDML.
Karma's a bitch.
I was sure that Knarf was offsetting me with his sucking up all the time.
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I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the
K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera
before. At that point, I decided that my initial suspicions had been
confirmed and watched no further.
If the K-01 was a wristwatch, it would be worn like
On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:21 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President
too...
Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).
How retro, it seems everything else comes with zooms.
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I could see the following strategy. Put a really good sensor and
electronics into a minimalist body and sell it as cheap as you can in
a K mount body. Don't worry about size or weather sealing or any of
that stuff. High IQ and low price are the only notable features.
Maybe they were trying for
BTW, I can't find any info on whether this thing will AF with the old
screw drive lenses. Anybody?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
I could see the following strategy. Put a really good sensor and
electronics into a minimalist body and sell it as
Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, I can't find any info on whether this thing will AF with the old
screw drive lenses. Anybody?
Yup. Photos show the lens mount does have the screw-drive mechanism.
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On 2/1/2012 11:46 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Fkrxy2FAku4/TylI7rKtXYI/Ahk/KEJd0EPjCrg/w812-h609-k/K-5_SE_40xs_silver3_front-top.jpg
This is clearly NOT the K-01. It has a
On 2/2/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the
K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera
before. At that point, I decided that my initial suspicions had been
confirmed and watched no further.
If
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses?
There's this thing called a tripod.
:-P
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On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses?
There's this thing called a tripod.
Most people just call me Larry.
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Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
Finally, someone more deluded than Pentax ;-)
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses?
There's
Composing on the rear screen is just dandy with a tripod or monopod.
I use a monopod at the races and it works fine. Handholding a big
lens without an eye-level VF is just nuts.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
Finally, someone more deluded than Pentax
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