Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John)

2016-08-06 Thread P.J. Alling
! We have some small ones like that called Firefinches: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/28764298395/ Our Robins are all Cossypha spp. Alan C -Original Message- From: John Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - 'Per

Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John)

2016-08-05 Thread ann sanfedele
--Original Message- From: John Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - 'Perched' I'm pretty sure it's a finch, based on the shape of the beak - something I learned from PDML. On 8/4/2016 12:22 AM, Alan C wrote: Such a deli

Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John)

2016-08-04 Thread David Mann
Yeah something like that. > On Aug 5, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan C wrote: > > Cheep, cheep, chirrup or chirrup, cheep cheep? > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: David Mann > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:32 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subje

Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John)

2016-08-04 Thread Alan C
Cheep, cheep, chirrup or chirrup, cheep cheep? Alan C -Original Message- From: David Mann Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John) I thought he resembled a redpoll. http://www.nzbirdsonline.org.nz/species/comm

Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John)

2016-08-04 Thread David Mann
gt; > Alan C > > > -Original Message- From: John > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:24 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - 'Perched' > > I'm pretty sure it's a finch, based on the shape of the beak - something > I learne

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ken, Go out with the garden shears and prune away that branch. It is a distraction to a fine photograph. And next time it won't be there! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:19 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > lovely shot - nice expression > > is he guarding the divining rod behind him? :-) > >

Re: PESO - 'Perched' (John)

2016-08-04 Thread Alan C
From: John Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - 'Perched' I'm pretty sure it's a finch, based on the shape of the beak - something I learned from PDML. On 8/4/2016 12:22 AM, Alan C wrote: Such a delicate little thing. Bird

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
>> -Original Message- From: Ken Waller >> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 6:33 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: PESO - 'Perched' >> >> Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec, f 8.0. >> >> Comments ap

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-04 Thread John
a Robin is actually a Turdus sp. - Thrush family. Alan c -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 6:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - 'Perched' Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec, f 8.0. Comments appreciated. http://pho

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-03 Thread Alan C
: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - 'Perched' Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec, f 8.0. Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18269923 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-03 Thread ann sanfedele
lovely shot - nice expression is he guarding the divining rod behind him? :-) ann On 8/3/2016 12:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec, f 8.0. Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18269923 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxpho

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-03 Thread Jack Davis
That K20 always delivered! Like the texture, Ken. J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Very nice. A lovely composition. > > Paul via phone > >> On Aug 3, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> >> Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec

Re: PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. A lovely composition. Paul via phone > On Aug 3, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec, f 8.0. > > Comments appreciated. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18269923 > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.

PESO - 'Perched'

2016-08-03 Thread Ken Waller
Taken with a K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 400 IS0, 1/180 sec, f 8.0. Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18269923 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UN

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > What I want when I post a pic is comments; kudos are nice, but constructive > appreciation or criticism is much better. What Rick said. Criticism is the best possible comment, as it can enlighten the poster, rather than just making him or her

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-06 Thread Rick Womer
is a further indication of the 'failure' of > the image. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" > Subject: Re: PESO: Perched Too > > >> Just to be clear ab

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Ken Waller
more, responding to criticism with background info, justifying why the photographer did what was done, is a further indication of the 'failure' of the image. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Su

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Rick Womer
MARK! On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > I thought this image could stand on its own, but then again, sometimes > I think I am a photographer. What the hell do I know? http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Larry, Dan - glad I the comments I made came through as I intendedand got such a good discussiongoing cause you both made even better onesin reply Dan, glad you MARK'ed - I second that! ann On 2/5/2016 3:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I wi

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I don't know if such an angle would have been possible, but I suspect that > the best way to convey what Dan seems to be trying for, would be an angle > halfway between the two he shot. One where the person on the rock was still > against the d

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I will also note that I have found that there is often very little > correlation between what I think are my absolute best images, and which ones > other people like. Fortunately, the field can be narrowed, because there is > usually much bet

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Larry Colen
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: We dont' always show each other photos because they work for us -- sometimes its because we are uncertain, or it doesnt or we need suggestions to help make it work. Well said indeed Ann. When I posted the firs

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > We dont' always show each other photos because they work for us -- sometimes > its because we are uncertain, or it doesnt or > we need suggestions to help make it work. Well said indeed Ann. When I posted the first "Perched," I delibera

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
Hear, hear! Well said, Ann! J - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 7:48:01 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Perched Too Just to be clear about my comment earlier - Larry- all of us, I think, show each oth

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Just to be clear about my comment earlier - Larry- all of us, I think, show each other photos because we want the rest to "get" what we were doing and do want to communicate - so it DOES matter whether or not the image communicates what we intendedit to say to the rest. I was just making the p

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > It does not matter whether it works for us. The question is, does it work > for you? Yes; otherwise I would not have taken it, processed it and shown it here and elsewhere. I thought this image could stand on its own, but then again, sometim

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Larry Colen
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Thanks, Ann. Perhaps the story I wanted to tell was not the best one photographically, but seeing him perched there motionless for about half an hour made an impression on me I wanted to convey. I guess it doesn't work, however. It does not matter whether it works f

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Ann. Perhaps the story I wanted to tell was not the best one photographically, but seeing him perched there motionless for about half an hour made an impression on me I wanted to convey. I guess it doesn't work, however. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Th

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread ann sanfedele
The thing is...when you see someone perched on that high and somewhat dangerous perch , with or without camera in hand, there is a certain evisceral reaction, I imagine ( Had I been there, I would have fretted, probably felt a bit of vertigo) but visually the elements just are not as interesting

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I'd actually crop out the lower left cutting off about half the space > between him and the left and between him in the bottom. This would put the > front of his body rather than the back of it on the "one third" line. Thanks, Larry. I see wha

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Rick Womer
I agree with Larry. Definitely an improvement, though. Rick On Feb 4, 2016, at 3:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> A slightly reworked version on the image in my previous post. >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18183273&size=lg >> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 >> Commen

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Jack Davis
Much more pleasing composition! J Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2016, at 12:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > K -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the direct

Re: PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-04 Thread Larry Colen
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A slightly reworked version on the image in my previous post. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18183273&size=lg K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Comments invited. Much improved. I'd actually crop out the lower left cutting off about half the space between him and the left

PESO: Perched Too

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A slightly reworked version on the image in my previous post. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18183273&size=lg K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Comments invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree, but it doesn't show the little outcrop on which he is perched, which is what attracted my eye. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:22 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > this second shot is much more interesting in all sorts of ways > > http://

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-03 Thread ann sanfedele
this second shot is much more interesting in all sorts of ways http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18180597 ann On 2/3/2016 1:31 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Beautiful setting and interesting subject which, unfortunately, becomes an unnecessarily static image by its center placement. When a subj

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I've also noticed that Dan's photos have been processed with a bit more > punch than is natural. I am processing them quickly on my laptop, as I have done on previous trips to Maui. I obviously need to calibrate the system. It may also be tha

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-03 Thread Larry Colen
Rick Womer wrote: Dan, I agree with Darren's compositional comments. Also, on all 3 of my monitors (home, work, laptop, all calibrated) the rocks are distinctly purple and the contrast is rather high. Are you shooting jpg or RAW? In either case, things might need some adjustment. I've noticed

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-03 Thread Rick Womer
Dan, I agree with Darren's compositional comments. Also, on all 3 of my monitors (home, work, laptop, all calibrated) the rocks are distinctly purple and the contrast is rather high. Are you shooting jpg or RAW? In either case, things might need some adjustment. I've noticed more-than-Velvia satu

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Darren. When I get the time I will try to crop it for a better composition. What you see is the full frame of the image in the camera. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > Beautiful setting and interesting subj

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-02 Thread Darren Addy
Beautiful setting and interesting subject which, unfortunately, becomes an unnecessarily static image by its center placement. When a subject is looking in a given direction, don't we long to see more of what he's looking at (that side of the image) and less of what is behind? Fortunately, this can

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Larry and Jack. I may indeed try cropping it to a square or portrait format when I get the time. This is another angle on the same subject: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18180597 but it doesn't convey the way the rock juts out from the surrounding hillside. Dan Matyola http://

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
Daniel J. Matyola" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 1:27:57 AM Subject: PESO: Perched http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18182370&size=lg K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Comments are appreciated Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola --

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-02 Thread Jack Davis
Beautifully exposed. Dan! Believe I'd prefer it as a vertical accomplished by cropping 'prox 1/3 from the left side. J - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 1:27:57 AM Subject: P

Re: PESO: Perched

2016-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18182370&size=lg K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Comments are appreciated Very interesting shot. It looks like you were wrestling with some challenging dynamic range there. Normally, putting him in the center like that would be problematic

PESO: Perched

2016-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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