voided in that situation.
One has to read Paypal's TOS and all the fine print, and possibly talk
with their customer support.
I suspect that the best you can try in this situation for yourself is to
specify the amount in CAD. (As Mark C. has suggested.) Can you "invoice"
him via Paypal?
I sold a lens to a guy in Canada last week and received 100% of the
purchase price in USD. I just asked him to send me the payment and gave
the the USD value. I'd assume that you could do the same. As a seller,
though, paypal charged me the processing fee.
Mark
On 8/18/2016 11:53 PM, Bill
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Ive managed to find a buyer for my DA70mm lens, finally.
What I'm wondering, can the buyer specify the payment to be made in Canadian
funds? He is from the USA.
It seems to me that when Paypal has to convert American dollar payments to
Canadian funds, I get dinged a few percen
nds? He is from the USA.
> It seems to me that when Paypal has to convert American dollar payments to
> Canadian funds, I get dinged a few percent. I'm hoping to avoid that by
> having the purchaser specify he is paying in Canadian funds.
>
> thanks
>
> bill
>
> --
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Ive managed to find a buyer for my DA70mm lens, finally.
What I'm wondering, can the buyer specify the payment to be made in
Canadian funds? He is from the USA.
It seems to me that when Paypal has to convert American dollar payments
to Canadian funds, I get dinged a few percent. I'm hoping
On 3/31/2016 7:48 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
I bought a lens from someone with only 4 transactions of history. He
will not ship the lens until he gets the funds in his paypal account.
anyone else have a problem like this? I feel like I am in a three way
standoff.
Being someone who sold
transactions of history. He
will not ship the lens until he gets the funds in his paypal account.
anyone else have a problem like this? I feel like I am in a three way
standoff.
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I bought a lens from someone with only 4 transactions of history. He
will not ship the lens until he gets the funds in his paypal account.
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I've had a checking account linked to Paypal for 18 years and have never had
any problems with it. For safety and security, it's an account separate from my
main savings/checking repository, at a different bank, but that doesn't mean
there isn't a sizable sum of money in it. It's my daily use
want from
another seller, North American based, who doesn't have this linked
restriction. It will cost me a bit more, but I think the source is a
lower risk anyway.
Looks like the eBay/Paypal split has created unresolved technical
issues. I'll just avoid this.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:10
I spent some time on Paypal looking into that possibility. They don't
even acknowledge eBay's existence. But I can link my personal bank
account if I wanted to. Yeah, right! Like I'm going to trust these
monkeys with unfettered access to my money. Heh.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:07 AM, John <se
I know that there are lots of savvy eBay and Paypal folks on the list,
and there must be a fix for this stupid problem.
I'm trying to buy a lens from an eBay buyer who has stipulated that he
only sells to customers with a linked eBay/Paypal. So I go into my
eBay account settings, click "
That's the trouble though, Ann. During checkout with this one seller I
get a message that he has set the requirement that the accounts be
linked, and it cancels the transaction. I cannot purchase from this
guy unless I can link my Paypal with my eBay account.
I have an existing Paypal account
Do you have a paypal account? Setting that up is the first step.
Paul via phone
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know that there are lots of savvy eBay and Paypal folks on the list,
> and there must be a fix for this stupid
I do have a Paypal account. And there's a series of steps for linking
that. But when I follow them, I end up back on eBay on the Paypal
Account page, but no linking has occurred. It's circular.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Do you have
I have kept my ebay and paypal accounts separate - never had any problem.
But yes, set up a paypal account for starters...
Then "link with paypal" thing willlikely show up. DOn't know if ebay
Canada works differently...
They are always nagging me to link and I've refused... but
e seller I
get a message that he has set the requirement that the accounts be
linked, and it cancels the transaction. I cannot purchase from this
guy unless I can link my Paypal with my eBay account.
I have an existing Paypal account; have had since the mid 2000's. I'm
sure it was linked up
I know absolutely about it, but I wonder do you have to do anything from
the Paypal end to get them to link?
On 1/4/2016 8:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
I do have a Paypal account. And there's a series of steps for linking
that. But when I follow them, I end up back on eBay on the Paypal
Account
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Subject: Re: 16-50/2.8 (was Re: saved someone from Nigerian Paypal scam?)
I have the 16-45, but the wobbly barrel is killing my corners randomly. In
portrait the upper half
tends to get soft. I have two copies of this lens. The one
2013 3:00 PM
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The original FA 28-105 f4-5.6 (the power zoom one for the PZ-1) is a bit heavy,
but an unknown
sleeper - fine quality lens.
But you'd still need a 15mm prime.
Regards, Bob S.
On Wed
I agree on the quality. It's not that light a lens, though.
And many folks believe that the third iteration of the 28-105
(the one with the f/3.2 max aperture, IIRC) is slightly better.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:00:24AM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote:
The original FA 28-105 f4-5.6 (the power zoom
I have the 16-45, but the wobbly barrel is killing my corners
randomly. In portrait the upper half tends to get soft. I have two
copies of this lens. The one I'm using now is very good when it is
sharp, but inconsistent. I would pay to have one of them tightened,
but I'm afraid that it will just
on 2013-07-24 7:19 Zos Xavius wrote
I have the 16-45, but the wobbly barrel is killing my corners
randomly.
yeah it's an interesting compromise of a lens; i thought all the corners were
soft
but my point was that i had carried a zoom for a long time before almost
completely switching to
The original FA 28-105 f4-5.6 (the power zoom one for the PZ-1)
is a bit heavy, but an unknown sleeper - fine quality lens.
But you'd still need a 15mm prime.
Regards, Bob S.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
on 2013-07-24 7:19 Zos Xavius wrote
I have
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013, steve harley wrote:
on 2013-07-11 19:47 Aahz Maruch wrote
Congrats! Why not keep the 16-50?
i'm a little torn; i have the 16-45, which is good, if not great,
yet i rarely use it any more; that range is
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013, steve harley wrote:
on 2013-07-11 19:47 Aahz Maruch wrote
Congrats! Why not keep the 16-50?
i'm a little torn; i have the 16-45, which is good, if not great,
on 2013-07-23 13:44 Aahz Maruch wrote
Steve, the other advantage of the 16-50, of course, is that you're not
having to switch lenses.
yes, for a couple of years a 16-45mm was my most-used lens
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On Fri, Jul 12, 2013, steve harley wrote:
on 2013-07-11 19:47 Aahz Maruch wrote
Congrats! Why not keep the 16-50?
i'm a little torn; i have the 16-45, which is good, if not great,
yet i rarely use it any more; that range is covered for me by a set
of small primes that are excellent and
on 2013-07-11 19:47 Aahz Maruch wrote
Congrats! Why not keep the 16-50?
i'm a little torn; i have the 16-45, which is good, if not great, yet i rarely
use it any more; that range is covered for me by a set of small primes that are
excellent and humble: A 50/1.7, FA 28/2.8 and DA 15/4 (i
going to try to
scam *me*!
so i asked if he was really sure the transaction was proper and he replied he
was paid via PayPal; i asked if he had possibly gotten an email from PayPal
saying his funds would be released in two weeks and he said yes; i told him
that email not from PayPal, it was forged
A very humanitarian act, Steve.
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
long story short, i saved his bacon and got a sweet deal; 50-135 is
fantastic lens, but a bit of a workout for my shoulder; i will probably
resell the rest
I find the 50-135 to be a work
Wow. That is one hell of a deal! I'm jealous!
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
A very humanitarian act, Steve.
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
long story short, i saved his bacon and got a sweet deal; 50-135
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, steve harley wrote:
long story short, i saved his bacon and got a sweet deal; 50-135 is
fantastic lens, but a bit of a workout for my shoulder; i will
probably resell the rest
Congrats! Why not keep the 16-50?
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2011/3/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Under the U.S. system there's no penalty if the lawyer lies in court as
long as he's not under oath.
Good point.
same goes for politicians and lying in public =P
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2011/3/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Under the U.S. system there's no penalty if the lawyer lies in court as
long as he's not under oath.
Good point.
same goes for politicians and lying in public =P
oops, wrong. from a certain level
Peter I hope you're reading this.
Because damn, coming from you that hurts. You're one of the people
I've always seen as sincere and genuine in a discussion. You always
stand your ground and that's admirable in its own right no matter what
your opinions are. And I trust you to not be someone who
You know, Ecki man, I love you but I'm bowing out of this conversation.
There's no reasoning with you. You seem to be completely paranoid on
this matter. You seem to be impervious to fact and logic. Oh, and by
the way, I'm getting pretty tired of hearing that water boarding is
torture. I
On 3/19/2011 10:48 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 19/03/2011 3:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many
years now.
With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise.
That's an utterly ignorant (if
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail
to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are
subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that
it's unpleasant enough to remain effective.
That said, I'd gladly submit myself
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail
to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also
are
subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that
it's unpleasant enough to remain effective.
the evidence suggests that
On 3/20/2011 7:37 AM, Bob W wrote:
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail
to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also
are
subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that
it's unpleasant enough to remain effective.
On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Bob W wrote:
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail
to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also
are
subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that
it's unpleasant enough to remain
2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture. Beheading a
journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture.
Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant.
uncontestedly waterboarding is less evil. but perpetrating
On 3/20/2011 8:34 AM, eckinator wrote:
2011/3/20 Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net:
Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture. Beheading a
journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture. Waterboarding
is just damn unpleasant.
uncontestedly
On 20/03/2011 6:21 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise.
That's an utterly ignorant (if unsurprising) statement.
So you are saying you are about as ignorant about what is going on in
your own country as what is going on
No, Bill. What I'm saying is that anyone who would say such a
plainly idiotic thing obviously hasn't got the foggiest notion of what a
Nazi is.
-- Walt
On 3/20/2011 9:15 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 20/03/2011 6:21 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's
On 20/03/2011 6:27 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me
to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being
subjected to it in return.
Does that include bombing civilians by the USAF?
Just wondering.
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On 3/20/2011 9:17 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 20/03/2011 6:27 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me
to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being
subjected to it in return.
Does that include bombing civilians by
On 20/03/2011 7:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture.Beheading a journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is
torture. Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant.
No Paul, waterboarding is just a rung or two down the evil
On 20/03/2011 7:37 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden
springs immediately to mind.
Just don't try to hold yourself up as a paragon of civilization and
democracy after practising your lesser evils, since every lesser evil
brings
On 3/20/2011 9:26 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 20/03/2011 7:37 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden
springs immediately to mind.
Just don't try to hold yourself up as a paragon of civilization and
democracy after practising your
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans
less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently
awarded the tax breaks that
On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow
humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist
On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less
equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed
2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
But this debate is a far cry from Ecke's snide little remarks about those who
oppose wikileaks.
back to where I started: DONATE FOR JAPAN, Eckeleaks notwithstanding
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On 20/03/2011 17:35, Walter Gilbert wrote:
On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow
humans less equitably.
On 20/03/2011 17:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less
On 3/20/2011 11:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 17:35, Walter Gilbert wrote:
On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that,
On 2011-03-20 04:10 , Bob W wrote:
There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for
training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you
are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end,
and being subjected to the same thing
On 20/03/2011 18:48, Walter Gilbert wrote:
On 3/20/2011 11:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 17:35, Walter Gilbert wrote:
On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
No, Bill. What I'm saying is that anyone who would say such a plainly
idiotic thing obviously hasn't got the foggiest notion of what a Nazi is.
Mr. Godwin to the white courtesy phone.
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:37 PM, eckinator wrote:
2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
But this debate is a far cry from Ecke's snide little remarks about those
who oppose wikileaks.
back to where I started: DONATE FOR JAPAN, Eckeleaks notwithstanding
I did so today. Costco
Thank you Paul. You were a good man in my book before that, too =)
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:37 PM, eckinator wrote:
2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
But this debate is a far cry from Ecke's snide little remarks about those
who oppose wikileaks.
back to where I started: DONATE FOR
On 2011-03-18 20:28 , Paul Stenquist wrote:
He's Obama's prisoner. Are you trying to say that our liberal democrat
president is torturing a U.S. citizen?
Obama sucks
there, i said it
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From what I've read, seriously disturbed sounds much more likely.
If you look at how he's treated in prison there will be no telling how
sane he may have been once they're done with him. He's on POI watch
and in isolated confinement. He walks
On Mar 19, 2011, at 5:48 AM, eckinator wrote:
2011/3/19 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
From what I've read, seriously disturbed sounds much more likely.
If you look at how he's treated in prison there will be no telling how
sane he may have been once they're done with him. He's
On 3/19/2011 1:43 AM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-18 20:28 , Paul Stenquist wrote:
He's Obama's prisoner. Are you trying to say that our liberal
democrat president is torturing a U.S. citizen?
Obama sucks
there, i said it
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From: Scott Loveless
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:21 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com
wrote:
American = Wikileaks bad.
Rest of world = Wikileaks good.
And frankly, I don't think Wikileaks has hurt any innocent people.
Don't lump us all in together. What with security theater at
Like I said, just because Assange and Wikileaks are trying to stick it to the
U.S. Government doesn't make them good guys.
John,
You're right. I think he's a form of pond scum. And not too tough of
a target to hit either!
The US Government gets slightly embarrased. The people mentioned face
On 3/19/2011 8:22 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Scott Loveless
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:21 AM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
American = Wikileaks bad.
Rest of world = Wikileaks good.
And frankly, I don't think Wikileaks has hurt any innocent people.
Don't lump us all
On 19/03/2011 5:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
And of course the information his lawyer provides is completely accurate:-))) !
Paul, your military and CIA are pretty well known to use torture of
prisoners.
IIRC, it was George Bush who had waterboarding redefined into the
equivalent of
On 19/03/2011 6:26 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
Obama sucks
Actually, the American government sucks, it doesn't matter which puppet
is at the helm.
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2011/3/19 Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net:
From what I've read, seriously disturbed sounds much more likely.
If you look at how he's treated in prison there will be no telling how
sane he may have been once they're done with him. He's on POI watch
2011/3/19 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
I deal with lawyers every day, so it's not as if I'd believe the one of them
at this point. Manning's lawyer not a neutral observer, he's an advocate,
and there's no penalty if he lies, unless he's actually in court. There's
even less
On 3/19/2011 3:09 PM, eckinator wrote:
2011/3/19 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:
I deal with lawyers every day, so it's not as if I'd believe the one of them
at this point. Manning's lawyer not a neutral observer, he's an advocate,
and there's no penalty if he lies, unless he's
2011/3/19 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Once again, you are postulating torture for torture sake. There's no
percentage in it. The Government gains nothing and can lose everything.
Rational beings don't risk that. Manning is a known prisoner. Even the
most repressive
On 3/19/2011 4:14 PM, eckinator wrote:
liberal seems to be the new communist. mccarthy rears his ugly head if
you ask me...
If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many
years now.
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2011/3/19 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:
liberal seems to be the new communist. mccarthy rears his ugly head if
you ask me...
If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many years
now.
haha yes it is - to each their own flavour of fascism I guess =/
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On 2011-03-19 13:20 , P. J. Alling wrote:
Once again, you are postulating torture for torture sake. There's no
percentage in it. The Government gains nothing and can lose everything.
apparently, the US government has figured out its percentages on torture
outcomes and decided it's worth doing
On 3/19/2011 6:48 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-19 13:20 , P. J. Alling wrote:
Once again, you are postulating torture for torture sake. There's no
percentage in it. The Government gains nothing and can lose everything.
apparently, the US government has figured out its percentages on
2011/3/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
It's not the government that's rational, but the humans who run it and do
it's bidding that are. If you think that there are no consequences improper
behavior should, just ask the General in charge of Abu Ghraib, she no longer
has a career
On 2011-03-19 18:04 , P. J. Alling wrote:
If Manning is being mistreated it will come out and
heads will roll.
his mistreatment is out already -- it's been covered and editorialized
about in the New York Times, The Guardian, The Daily Beast, etc.; and
because it's been excused (and many
On 3/19/2011 8:25 PM, eckinator wrote:
2011/3/20 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:
It's not the government that's rational, but the humans who run it and do
it's bidding that are. If you think that there are no consequences improper
behavior should, just ask the General in charge of Abu
On 3/19/2011 8:26 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-19 18:04 , P. J. Alling wrote:
If Manning is being mistreated it will come out and
heads will roll.
his mistreatment is out already -- it's been covered and
editorialized about in the New York Times, The Guardian, The Daily
Beast, etc.;
From: P. J. Alling
I deal with lawyers every day, so it's not as if I'd believe the one of
them at this point. Manning's lawyer not a neutral observer, he's an
advocate, and there's no penalty if he lies, unless he's actually in
court.
Under the U.S. system there's no penalty if the lawyer
On 3/19/2011 10:31 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
I deal with lawyers every day, so it's not as if I'd believe the one of
them at this point. Manning's lawyer not a neutral observer, he's an
advocate, and there's no penalty if he lies, unless he's actually in
court.
Under the
On 19/03/2011 1:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The Government gains nothing and can lose everything.
Rational beings don't risk that.
We ~are~ talking about the US government and the US military Peter.
Rational doesn't really enter into it.
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On 19/03/2011 3:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many
years now.
With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise.
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That sounds good if you think that people are always rational actors.
But they aren't. They are imperfect, unreasonable, creatures driven
by emotion, even when there are very detailed procedures to follow.
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:20 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On
On 19/03/2011 7:26 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Oh, and by the
way, I'm getting pretty tired of hearing that water boarding is
torture. I have friends who have undergone training to withstand
interrogation, and being water boarded is part of the training. It's a
thoroughly unpleasant experience,
You are doing the same thing by stating that the government can't
possibly be doing anything wrong.
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:41 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
You know, I can't refute your argument, it's just so air tight. I bow to
your superior intellect. The fact that
On 19/03/2011 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
If you want to believe that the US Government sanctions
torture for tortures sake I can't stop you.
Don't obfuscate. Torture for any reason is still torture.
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To be honest, I'm not sure it hurt us all that much. It's always
embarrassing when what you actually think of someone slips out, but a
little information can explain so much.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:21 AM, William
On 2011-03-18 06:00 , Steven Desjardins wrote:
To be honest, I'm not sure it hurt us all that much. It's always
embarrassing when what you actually think of someone slips out, but a
little information can explain so much.
for better or worse, i'm also a US citizen, and i think wikileaks will
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:39:02PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-18 06:00 , Steven Desjardins wrote:
To be honest, I'm not sure it hurt us all that much. It's always
embarrassing when what you actually think of someone slips out, but a
little information can explain so much.
for
On 2011-03-18 19:09 , John Francis wrote:
While I am generally pro-Wikileaks, I wouldn't want that to be
taken as implying general support for Julian Assange, who would
appear to be a particularly unpleasant kind of weasel.
sometimes it takes a weasel to ferret one out
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