Stan Halpin wrote:
I am waiting for the Fraser book written for Elements; meanwhile, I
found Getting Started with Camera RAW by Ben Long, Peachpit Press, to
be useful for a dummy like me.
Stan
Pardon my ignorance, but Fraser?
...the Fraser book... doesn't ring a bell, so if you can
On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:15 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
I am waiting for the Fraser book written for Elements; meanwhile, I
found Getting Started with Camera RAW by Ben Long, Peachpit
Press, to
be useful for a dummy like me.
If I can be allowed a self-promotional minute, last year I co-
Bob,
Is it biased towards PS, or is it software-neutral?
JOhn
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:07:27 +0100, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:15 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
I am waiting for the Fraser book written for Elements; meanwhile, I
found Getting Started with Camera RAW
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:18 AM, John Forbes wrote:
Bob,
Is it biased towards PS, or is it software-neutral?
JOhn
Actually, it is impossible to write a good book and be software-
neutral. We decided to use Photoshop Elements for most of our image
manipulation, but we do mention Photoshop
keith_w wrote:
Stan Halpin wrote:
I am waiting for the Fraser book written for Elements; meanwhile, I
found Getting Started with Camera RAW by Ben Long, Peachpit Press, to
be useful for a dummy like me.
Stan
Pardon my ignorance, but Fraser?
...the Fraser book... doesn't ring a bell,
and New link and buy it from me. My price is a penny cheaper than
Amazon !
Woo Hoo, I'll try not to spend it all in one place... :-P
Bob Shell wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:18 AM, John Forbes wrote:
Bob,
Is it biased towards PS, or is it software-neutral?
JOhn
Actually, it
Adam Maas wrote:
keith_w wrote:
Stan Halpin wrote:
I am waiting for the Fraser book written for Elements; meanwhile, I
found Getting Started with Camera RAW by Ben Long, Peachpit Press, to
be useful for a dummy like me.
Stan
Pardon my ignorance, but Fraser?
...the Fraser book...
Thanks.
John
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:50:14 +0100, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:18 AM, John Forbes wrote:
Bob,
Is it biased towards PS, or is it software-neutral?
JOhn
Actually, it is impossible to write a good book and be software-
neutral. We decided to
I am waiting for the Fraser book written for Elements; meanwhile, I
found Getting Started with Camera RAW by Ben Long, Peachpit Press, to
be useful for a dummy like me.
Stan
On Jun 17, 2006, at 2:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Not sure if there is a RAW book for dummies, but I think a
Film at 11?
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Pigs Fly.
Paul
On Jun 17, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Cotty wrote:
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Reading through the couple of recent threads on pixels and jpegs vs RAW
spurred me on to do another test (I hate tests because it means work).
When I got a
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Reading through the couple of recent threads on pixels and jpegs vs RAW
spurred me on to do another test (I hate tests because it means work).
When I got a DSLR a few years ago I did a test where I shot some books
on a shelf in both RAW and large fine jpeg
Hi!
Into Photoshop CS with both, the RAW staying in 16 bit. Here's a couple
of screen shots:
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare5.html
Guess which one is the RAW file :-)
ISO 800, 1/30th sec handheld (c'mon I don't do tripod tests - there has
to be an element of risk ;-)
The jpeg
The right hand one, naturally!
Regards
Jens Bladt
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+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248
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Emne: RAW vs JPEG - The truth
In a message dated 6/17/2006 9:38:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The jpeg is as good as I could get it. The white lids with hot sun on
them were solid gone, but the shadow detail was full retrievable with
the RAW. With the jpeg it took a lot of bodging and it stinks. But
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/17/2006 9:38:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The jpeg is as good as I could get it. The white lids with hot sun on
them were solid gone, but the shadow detail was full retrievable with
the RAW. With the jpeg it took a lot
Not really replying to Marnie, just tacking on to the thread here -
Here's how I explained jpeg/RAW to some fairly non-technical folks.
If pictures were brownies, a raw file would be like a grocery sack
containing a brownie mix, eggs, water and oil. (or whatever else the
mix requires)
Within
keith_w wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And time to pull Bruce's book off the shelf and have another go.
Sorry... Bruce?
Bruce Fraser
Author of Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2
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In a message dated 6/17/2006 12:15:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce Fraser
Author of Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2
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Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia
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Keith, there is also a CS version, since I am still on CS. You can find older
book
Cotty wrote:
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Reading through the couple of recent threads on pixels and jpegs vs RAW
spurred me on to do another test (I hate tests because it means work).
When I got a DSLR a few years ago I did a test where I shot some books
on a shelf in both RAW and
In a message dated 6/17/2006 11:55:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not really replying to Marnie, just tacking on to the thread here -
Here's how I explained jpeg/RAW to some fairly non-technical folks.
If pictures were brownies, a raw file would be like a grocery sack
On 17/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
Hallelujah. Praise the pixels. The boy has seen the light.
I am saved.
Welcome to hell ;-)
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Sorry... Bruce?
Bruce Fraser.
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Mark Roberts wrote:
keith_w wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And time to pull Bruce's book off the shelf and have another go.
Sorry... Bruce?
Bruce Fraser
Author of Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2
Aha. Small wonder it didn't ring a bell.
I only use PSE 4.0. g
On 17/6/06, George Sinos, discombobulated, unleashed:
If pictures were brownies, a raw file would be like a grocery sack
containing a brownie mix, eggs, water and oil.
Mark!
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On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:41 AM, keith_w wrote:
And time to pull Bruce's book off the shelf and have another go.
Sorry... Bruce?
...
Is there a small book called RAW for dummies?
Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2 by Bruce Fraser. Best
introduction/tutorial/reference book on RAW
On Jun 17, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Cotty wrote:
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Mince, meat or apple? ;-)
Godfrey
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JPEG - The truth is out
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Reading through the couple of recent threads on pixels and jpegs vs RAW
spurred me on to do another test (I hate tests because it means work).
When I got a DSLR a few years ago I did a test where I shot some books
on a shelf in both
Pigs Fly.
Paul
On Jun 17, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Cotty wrote:
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Reading through the couple of recent threads on pixels and jpegs vs RAW
spurred me on to do another test (I hate tests because it means work).
When I got a DSLR a few years ago I did a test where
Nah, with Cotty its humble. ;-}
Kenneth Waller
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RAW vs JPEG - The truth is out
On Jun 17, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Cotty wrote:
Can someone please serve me some pie?
Mince, meat or apple? ;-)
Godfrey
I suspect that a lot of info in the book is applicable to PSE 4.0 as well
...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: keith_w
Bruce Fraser
Author of Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2
Aha. Small wonder it didn't ring a bell.
I only use PSE 4.0. g
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Let's not overlook Real World Camera Raw for Photoshop CS ... still
available from many sources and ideal for those who may not have upgraded
to CS2
I agree that the book (at least in CS form) is not difficult, and, like
Godders says, learning a few simple things about raw and the workflow can
Cotty wrote:
On 17/6/06, George Sinos, discombobulated, unleashed:
If pictures were brownies, a raw file would be like a grocery sack
containing a brownie mix, eggs, water and oil.
Mark!
I'm way ahead of you.
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412-687-2835
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OK, I upgraded to CS2 I have a copy of Real World Camera Raw for
Photoshop CS (not CS2) that I will send to the first person in the
USA (sorry) who sends me their mailing address. No strings attached.
-Marco
On Jun 17, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Let's not overlook Real
On 17/6/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
Cotty, do you recall your workflow with the jpeg?
Sure. Same as I do for most jpegs. Open, apply Curves, add a small
amount of UnSharp Mask, Save As (.psd). To bring up shadows or rescue
highlights, dodge and burn.
HTH
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On 17/6/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Mince, meat or apple? ;-)
Humble!
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